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Old 05-30-2010, 07:41 AM   #1
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Default Best time to get FIRST wellness checkup & boosters??

When should I get Betty Boop's first regular wellness checkup?? Is it when she turns 1 year old, which is next month. What tests should I ask the vet to do? Knock on wood.....she has not had any problems so far.

Also, I know there has been a lot of discussion on vaccinations. Does she need boosters on everything? I looked on her papers and on October 29, 2009, at around 16/17 weeks old, she was vaccinated with Distemper-Hepatitis (CAV-2), Canine Parvo, Parainfluenza, leptospirosis, Coronavirus. She had rabies on November 12, 2009.

Her medical records show he wants her to have a rabies booster on November 12, 2010. We have a county law that states a dog should have the rabies shot once a year. I know they are good for 3 years, as another vet told me. It would be my choice, so I'm told. I don't know what legal implications would be if she bit someone and she wasn't up to date with county laws. What is best for her health is what I want, though.

I know there are guidelines made up by a vet that some people follow. I know no one can tell me what is best to do for Betty Boop, but that is what I want to hear. I know there are a lot of others on the forum with more experience. Please give me your two-cents worth. It would really be appreciated.

If you know of another good thread, I would appreciate that, too.

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Personally I would get the distemper, parvo, parainfluenza, and hepatitis (DHPP) vaccine in October since its a year after her last booster and a few weeks later get the rabies booster. Lepto is only needed if there are a lot of cases of it where you live. Corona should never be given to small breed dogs.

You need to comply with your country laws with the rabies vaccines. So if it says every year, then unfortunately that's what you have to do. Unless there is a medical problem and you can get your vet to sign off on it saying that your dog cannot get this vaccine for health reasons. However i heard that even in some places the letter won't work.

again, personally, After the one year vaccine i wouldn't get any more. I have my Morgan her puppy boosters (DHPP and rabies), then DHPP & rabies a year later, and then 1/2 of a DHPP at 2 years. Since then she hasn't gotten any vaccines and i don't plan on getting her any more. Same goes for my inside cat. She only had the kitten boosters and rabies. i feel its just not necessary to vaccinate yearly.
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what is up with WACO, TX man you guys need to start doing some lobbying to get that rabies to 3 years girls looks like you have to do it yearly as we discussed your area on this thread. Check this thread out it is very enlightening. Does Lepto run in your area? I would not do corona either or lepto if not in your area

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yor...oing-them.html

I would do the one year booster for parvo and distemper IF SHE IS HEALTHY ONLY. I would separate them so if a reaction you know which one is causing it. Did she ever have a reaction when getting her puppy shots?

I TOTALLY agree with Kellie no vaccines after that booster for dhpp as you will see on the thread above i had a scare with parvo and mine are 6 and all were fine and all only had one year booster and dd only had 6 month puppy shots so no one year booster and all were fine

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also you can ask on the rabies if the full thing has to be given since a small dog as my friend did this and her vet said thanks for asking as it is up to owner to ask or we have to give full dose in toy breeds. If owner asks they will only do a partial but owner has to ask and some holistic vets do not do the full rabies shot as it says up to 90lb dog on it. There is alot of controversy on that so read the thread i posted with the videos i posted to learn both sides of info so at least you can make an educated decision on vaccinations for your dog.

Also separate out do not do rabies the same day as other vaccines space them out
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I would do the one year booster for parvo and distemper IF SHE IS HEALTHY ONLY. I would separate them so if a reaction you know which one is causing it.
Not many vets carry each individual vaccine. Most have either the 4in1 (DHPP) or 5in1 (DHAPP). Personally i see no problem getting either of these combos are they are the least reactive.
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Not many vets carry each individual vaccine. Most have either the 4in1 (DHPP) or 5in1 (DHAPP). Personally i see no problem getting either of these combos are they are the least reactive.
yeah i know a girl on here had to drive 2 hrs to my vet to get individuals done. Luckily my vet does individuals but i found that out when this girl was frantic looking for a vet that did individuals and could not find one. I would at least ask and see and if not there is one that jean recommends i can find out for op if she wants
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Thanks everyone! I have read until I'm blue in the face. lol But, I am much more educated on the subject of vaccinations. Thank you for the wonderful sites and for sharing them with me.

I know our county law states it is law to give the rabies vac once a year. When I took my cat in about 2/3 years ago, the vet gave me the choice of doing it yearly or every three years. I remember her telling me a couple of years ago that she only gave her dogs the vac once every three years. She was the one who informed me that I would be taking a chance of possibly getting sued or fined if the cat ever bit anyone.

This particular vet also told me that she has known of a couple of cases in Waco that didn't turn out good for the owners who only vaccinated once every three years. The owners went by state law (once every 3 years) and NOT county law (once every year). This vet said the state is allowing the county to enforce the once a year law.

I now know what I'm going to do for Betty Boop. She did NOT have any reactions to the Distemper-Hepatitis (CAV-2), Canine Parvo, Parainfluenza, leptospirosis, Coronavirus......thank God! She had rabies on November 12, 2009. She will get the booster of DHPP in October (still thinking about separate vacs, but may not be possible, and then again there is the issue of getting too much preservative this way) and then the rabies a couple of weeks later. I am going to ask the vet about a half dose of rabies vaccine and see what his viewpoint is. I have a very, very good vet and really do trust him, but I am one that does so much research and reads a lot before doing ANYTHING! I usually insult vets because of my research. Sad thing, isn't it? This is another thread!

QUESTION: Sorry, but my mind is mush right now......I think I read where I need to get bloodwork, heartworm check, worm check when she is one year old. Is this correct??? This would be at the end of June.

Again, thanks everyone. How DOES one go about getting county law changed? Is there a link somewhere to explain how I can raise awareness of the most recent protocol??
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Thanks everyone! I have read until I'm blue in the face. lol But, I am much more educated on the subject of vaccinations. Thank you for the wonderful sites and for sharing them with me.

I know our county law states it is law to give the rabies vac once a year. When I took my cat in about 2/3 years ago, the vet gave me the choice of doing it yearly or every three years. I remember her telling me a couple of years ago that she only gave her dogs the vac once every three years. She was the one who informed me that I would be taking a chance of possibly getting sued or fined if the cat ever bit anyone.

This particular vet also told me that she has known of a couple of cases in Waco that didn't turn out good for the owners who only vaccinated once every three years. The owners went by state law (once every 3 years) and NOT county law (once every year). This vet said the state is allowing the county to enforce the once a year law.

I now know what I'm going to do for Betty Boop. She did NOT have any reactions to the Distemper-Hepatitis (CAV-2), Canine Parvo, Parainfluenza, leptospirosis, Coronavirus......thank God! She had rabies on November 12, 2009. She will get the booster of DHPP in October (still thinking about separate vacs, but may not be possible, and then again there is the issue of getting too much preservative this way) and then the rabies a couple of weeks later. I am going to ask the vet about a half dose of rabies vaccine and see what his viewpoint is. I have a very, very good vet and really do trust him, but I am one that does so much research and reads a lot before doing ANYTHING! I usually insult vets because of my research. Sad thing, isn't it? This is another thread!

QUESTION: Sorry, but my mind is mush right now......I think I read where I need to get bloodwork, heartworm check, worm check when she is one year old. Is this correct??? This would be at the end of June.

Again, thanks everyone. How DOES one go about getting county law changed? Is there a link somewhere to explain how I can raise awareness of the most recent protocol??
contact jean dodds or go to rabieschallengefund website and ask them how to go about it. I am sure they know alot about it.

I would worry more about giving a multiple vaccine than giving the preservative myself and at least if there is a reaction then you know which is causing it for the next time. i would at least ask the vet about it

and GOOD FOR YOU for educating yourself. I have found that specialists LOVE it when people educate themselves and each one has commented to me on they wish more owners would do their homework and educate themselves to better take care of their pets. It is the vets that tend to get intimidated when an owner is more educated I have found and not sure if it is a confidence in their own knowledge or lack thereof. I think when people are confident in their profession they welcome questions and educated people. When they lack confidence and knowledge is when i hear them say stay off the internet etc. and i choose not to work with those people because that is a big red flag to me and a bad sign as it tells me they cannot answer my questions i may come up with on the internet. Why? Are they afraid i might find something out they do not know about? I do not expect them to know everything and definitely accept answers like i do not know but i will look it up as i believe you need to work as a team especially with a sick pet. The specialists i work with say fax over what you found Debbie and let me take a look at it. Then they call me back and say what their take is on it but they never make me feel bad for this and always welcome it and actually a couple times have thanked me for information. Now there is a true professional always willing to learn more about their profession.
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contact jean dodds or go to rabieschallengefund website and ask them how to go about it. I am sure they know alot about it.

I would worry more about giving a multiple vaccine than giving the preservative myself and at least if there is a reaction then you know which is causing it for the next time. i would at least ask the vet about it

and GOOD FOR YOU for educating yourself. I have found that specialists LOVE it when people educate themselves and each one has commented to me on they wish more owners would do their homework and educate themselves to better take care of their pets. It is the vets that tend to get intimidated when an owner is more educated I have found and not sure if it is a confidence in their own knowledge or lack thereof. I think when people are confident in their profession they welcome questions and educated people. When they lack confidence and knowledge is when i hear them say stay off the internet etc. and i choose not to work with those people because that is a big red flag to me and a bad sign as it tells me they cannot answer my questions i may come up with on the internet. Why? Are they afraid i might find something out they do not know about? I do not expect them to know everything and definitely accept answers like i do not know but i will look it up as i believe you need to work as a team especially with a sick pet. The specialists i work with say fax over what you found Debbie and let me take a look at it. Then they call me back and say what their take is on it but they never make me feel bad for this and always welcome it and actually a couple times have thanked me for information. Now there is a true professional always willing to learn more about their profession.
Yes, I intend on asking about separate vaccines for sure. In fact, if they don't have separate ones, I know of a couple of other vets that I can call. I would really rather do it that way, too.

Speaking of educating yourself via the internet..........I was banned from my local vet's office after 30 years in 2006!!!!!!! All because of research on the internet and taking my 17 year old cat to Dr. Norsworthy, a feline specialist in San Antonio!!! If only I had known he hated me and my cat so much, I wouldn't have taken her to his office for her to draw her last breath. I am a researcher. I read a lot. I stay on the internet reading so much that my husband is sick of it!!! He knows where to find me, that's for sure.

I just thank God for places like this and for the Yahoo cat group when I needed a cat group.

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Yes, I intend on asking about separate vaccines for sure. In fact, if they don't have separate ones, I know of a couple of other vets that I can call. I would really rather do it that way, too.

Speaking of educating yourself via the internet..........I was banned from my local vet's office after 30 years in 2006!!!!!!! All because of research on the internet and taking my 17 year old cat to Dr. Norsworthy, a feline specialist in San Antonio!!! If only I had known he hated me and my cat so much, I wouldn't have taken her to his office for her to draw her last breath. I am a researcher. I read a lot. I stay on the internet reading so much that my husband is sick of it!!! He knows where to find me, that's for sure.

I just thank God for places like this and for the Yahoo cat group when I needed a cat group.

This is such a wonderful place to spend my extra time!!
Banned for researching?

You don't have to do bloodwork, but yearly is a good idea for now.
Fecals should be done annually at a minimum (maybe exceptions could be made for pets that always stay inside and are carried outside, etc.). Some vets do then twice yearly.
Heartworm testing is recommended yearly. Sometimes you can do it every other year or never if pet stays on preventative constantly. We do it yearly.
Urinalysis is also not a bad idea.
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the heartworm needs to be done for sure, then if you keep her on it year round and don't miss any months you should only have to test for it every 2-3 years depending on the protocol of that vet. i don't know the weather in texas but here in jersey the weather gets really cold in the winter so there are no mosquitos. i can stop the heartworm pill from november to april if i chose but then i'd have to get a heartworm check again before starting up again in the spring. so i don't know if you can do that in texas.

Some vets request a fecal sample at their yearly (or bi-yearly) check up to look for parasites. bloodwork is your choice. typically most people do not get yearly blood panels. but we are all crazy yorkie owners so most of us DO get yearly panels (i get yearly panels and yearly BATS done on morgan cause she has MVD).
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Yes, I intend on asking about separate vaccines for sure. In fact, if they don't have separate ones, I know of a couple of other vets that I can call. I would really rather do it that way, too.

Speaking of educating yourself via the internet..........I was banned from my local vet's office after 30 years in 2006!!!!!!! All because of research on the internet and taking my 17 year old cat to Dr. Norsworthy, a feline specialist in San Antonio!!! If only I had known he hated me and my cat so much, I wouldn't have taken her to his office for her to draw her last breath. I am a researcher. I read a lot. I stay on the internet reading so much that my husband is sick of it!!! He knows where to find me, that's for sure.

I just thank God for places like this and for the Yahoo cat group when I needed a cat group.

This is such a wonderful place to spend my extra time!!
yep those yahoo groups are AMAZING. I am on a bunch of them. Now those are some SHARP people. I learn so much from people who have sick animals way more than from vets many times as they are dealing with it 24/7. Yep people do not realize you have no idea what kind of vet you have until your dog is really sick. The basic stuff is easy it is diagnostics that is hard. Also knowing the breed is key and what comes up in that breed. Passion is key to learning and I have become very passionate about this stuff after having a sick dog it really motivates you to learn and pay it forward. It always amazes me how opinionated people can be when they have never dealt with a sick animal and discount pet owners who deal with this and what they know. I say when you know better you do better and there is a reason they call it PRACTICING MEDICINE.
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You don't have to do bloodwork, but yearly is a good idea for now.
Fecals should be done annually at a minimum (maybe exceptions could be made for pets that always stay inside and are carried outside, etc.). Some vets do then twice yearly.
Heartworm testing is recommended yearly. Sometimes you can do it every other year or never if pet stays on preventative constantly. We do it yearly.
Urinalysis is also not a bad idea.
I do annual blood work, fecal and urine in all three of mine. Dee Dee gets it done semi-annually as she is on medication so i am extra cautious with her. I do not do yearly bats on dd and she is mvd as once they are high they are high. We had 3 to confirm it so we know she has it and it has gone down since being on low protein no need to redo.

I also do titers at the same time when blood is pulled to be safe. I know it is controversial but all of mine have had high titers for years now

I walk in to the vets office with my bottles of urine and fecal labeled by name.

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Yes, for researching and for taking my cat to a feline specialist, and he even had to refer me!! That is what the vet tech told me.

Actually, he did me a HUGE favor because now I have this fantastic vet. I only wish that I had known about his practice for the past 30 years. He is much more informed about everything! AND, he used to raise Yorkies and knows quite a bit about their needs. The only thing I can't figure out is why he did the Lepto and Corona vacs. $$$ ??? But, now that I'm more informed about vacs, I will call the shots! No pun intended!!
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the heartworm needs to be done for sure, then if you keep her on it year round and don't miss any months you should only have to test for it every 2-3 years depending on the protocol of that vet. i don't know the weather in texas but here in jersey the weather gets really cold in the winter so there are no mosquitos. i can stop the heartworm pill from november to april if i chose but then i'd have to get a heartworm check again before starting up again in the spring. so i don't know if you can do that in texas.

Some vets request a fecal sample at their yearly (or bi-yearly) check up to look for parasites. bloodwork is your choice. typically most people do not get yearly blood panels. but we are all crazy yorkie owners so most of us DO get yearly panels (i get yearly panels and yearly BATS done on morgan cause she has MVD).
The Boopster has been on a monthly heartworm tablet. We have more mild winters than icy cold ones here in Texas. The bugs are always so bad in the spring and summer. This Yorkie owner is what they call "a horse of a different color". I always spend more money than I need to.
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