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Old 07-25-2008, 02:19 PM   #1
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I got Miles when he was 10 weeks old. The first night I had him, I noticed that he was waking up and coughing. The next day, he had his first vet appointment, and the vet told me it was kennel cough. She prescribed a cough medicine for him to take at night (that's when it is worse) and Amoxicillin as a preventative measure. We finished the antibiotics and nothing had improved. In fact, it actually got a little worse. So three weeks later, I had him back into the vet. She ran a CBC to check for infection, and sure enough, his WBC was up a bit. So she prescribed Clavamox and said to take it twice a day until it was gone. It's gone now...and I still have a yorkie with a terrible choking cough...mostly at night. He will wake up and cough so hard that he can't even keep his balance. It hasn't caused him to throw up or anything, and he still has plenty of energy (PLENTY!), and has a normal appetite. Can kennel cough last this long?? Is there anything else it could be? He's now 16 weeks old, and still hacking!
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Poor baby! Kennel cough can last several weeks, especially in puppies. Also, it can progress to pneumonia, but it doesn't *really* sound that way - but at this point, I'd get him checked again. If for nothing else, to definitely get him a prescription cough suppressant so he can sleep at night - bc sleep deprivation will not be good for his immune system. I really would take him in again - he may need a stronger, more aggressive antibiotic too, unfortunately.
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When I got CAli at 9 weeks she had Kennel cough and gave it to my then 8 year old pom and it took 3 months and 3 rounds of antibiotics to helo prevent pneumonia to clear up. The coughing was always bad at night and when they woke up. Once it was gone they were fine no more coughing. I just kept having the vet check their lungs to make sure it wasn't pneumonia. I hope your baby gets over it soon.
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Thank you, both of you. I've been so worried about him. Hopefully it will clear up soon and this will be the end of it.
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I picked up my new puppy at 7 weeks from a breeder on July 8th in the midwest and brought her to South Florida where I live the next day. It was a long day with two flights and lots of delays. I had Nutrical with me and some food the breeder gave although she wouldn't eat it. Had read Yorkietalk articles so I had also purchased some baby food chicken and beef and gave it some of that. Upon arriving home, started the puppy on Innova puppy food. The puppy was fine for the first week. The breeder took it to her vet for a checkup before I picked her up to get a health certificate so she could fly on the plane in the cabin with me and then I took her to my vets office the day after I returned to have her checked. Both said she was great and a healthy puppy. The Vet (there are several in the clinic) is YOUNG and new to the office. She gave my puppy the bordatella innoculation (not sure of spelling) and a worming (which later they told me she didn't have worms). About a week later my puppy starting coughing and seems like the dry heaves and it was just once in a while for the first two days (it started Monday night). On Wenesday afternoon it became severe and I rushed her to the Vet's office. She checked her breathing, heart, etc and said she does not have anything in her passageway and that she doesn't have running eyes or nose which rules out a cold and that it is a collapsing trachea and that sometimes they outgrow it but she suggested either a radiograph then or when I bring her in for more of her puppy shots in 2 weeks I should have a radiograph (X-ray) done. She pressed on her throat and decided that was what is the trouble. She prescribed Hycodan syrup. I have given it to her several times now but she doesn't seem to be coughing too much however, several times just lying in her cage she did it without any exercise, excitement or anything. Somehow, I just have to question it being a collapsing trachea because she didn't do it when I first got her and after several weeks all of a sudden it starts. I wondered if it is possible to catch kennel cough from the vets office or from one of the innoculations they gave her. The breeder didn't wean her correctly and left the mother in with her at night until I picked her up so she isn't a good eater. I am giving her puppy Innova and mostly have to feed her from my hand to get her to eat. She has gained weight though. At times she runs around like a little mad woman playing and that doesn't cause her to cough. Does anyone have any suggestions as to the possibility that it could be something other than the trachea problem? The breeder thought she would be 8 weeks when I picked her up but had miscalculated her age. She weighed 1 lb 4 oz when I took her the first time two weeks ago to the vet. On this past Wednesday they said she had gained more weight. However, I feel it is due to my handfeeding her and making sure she is eating. Today she really didn't want to eat much. I have never felt so stressed with a puppy. I have had them over the years but never experienced anything like this. I am madly in love with her and have had her to the vet twice now in 2 weeks and still feel apprehensive about her. I take her to work with me everyday and feel fortunate that I am allowed to have her with me. Am the only one at work so she does get to sleep peacefully. The dog has about 80% championship in 136 ancestors so it isn't a puppy mill dog. Sure hope someone has some suggestions. I am not sleeping well either although the puppy seems to be. Could her coughing be from an infection? Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

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Old 07-26-2008, 08:50 PM   #6
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hi, i have 2 little boys they are almost a year old they are also brothers.. how old is your baby girl? i got my boys from my boyfriends ex stepmother she gave them to me a couple weeks early, i didnt feel comfortable taking them at the time but she said it would be fine i ended up taking them back a week later.. anyhow i started out putting a little milk in their dog food, i had the same issue with hand feeding.. then you slowly take the milk out and she should be fine.. but in the meantime you can boil chicken and rice they love that and love to EAT that. one of the boys was the runt and also has a crippled back leg so he is my sickly baby he had a real problem with eating now they are both great eaters i also give them treats for everything i just cant help myself.. also i give them nutrical once a day everyday! i think that is a must my boys are tiny 3 and 4 pounds.. i hope this helps if you have any questions feel free to ask im curious about the wheezing cough my little one does it but not everyday?? good luck ~lovemy2boys
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Thank you for your reply. My little girl turned 9 weeks and 3 days today. Daizee is so sweet but I am concerned about that cough. Sure hope it is not a collapsing trachea because it can cause them a lot of trouble. From what I read on this post, I am wondering if it could be an infection instead. I don't know if the other girl who was having the coughing problem had a runny nose or eyes or anything when they put her on antibiotics. Hope we hear from some people that had the coughing/heaving problem that had something other than the trachea problem. I just think if it was a trachea problem she would have done it when I got her rather than more than 2 weeks later. It started out with a cough occasionally and then 2 days later really got bad one afternoon. Thus far, I have only given her the cough medicine twice and it has been 4 days. The medicine lasts from 8 to 12 hours. She didn't cough at all today so that is good. I was hoping for some news before I go back to the Vet because am not sure I want them to do an X-ray at this point. Does your puppy cough often?

Thank you for the advice about feeding her. I am going to boil some chicken tomorrow along with some rice. I worry when she eats so little. The vet said her teeth had just broken through the skin so I don't know how well she can chew yet. She must be getting enough food as she gained from 1.4 ounces to 1.9 ounces in 2 weeks. I wasn't this nervous when I had my first child.

Your puppies sound adorable! After you took them back, how long did your friends stepmother keep them? I keep reading that the breeders should keep them for 12 weeks. 7 weeks seemed really too early considering her size but I was only in the midwest for 1 1/2 weeks and wanted her to fly in the cabin with me. Even though she was in the cabin with me, it was a very long exhausting day for her. Her father weighed 3 lbs and the mother 4 lbs so the breeder thinks she will weight between 3 and 4 pounds.

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Yep, give it some time. Lily took a good two months to get over hers and it finally went away when I told the vet I didn't want any more antibiotics. She did get a cough suppressant at her last appointment that worked GREAT though (butorphanol). I did a lot of reading and researching and I really think the antibiotics were only slowing it down rather than working. We did two rounds of Clavomox and tried Primor but Lily had a reaction to it. Anyway, my vet said the problem Lily had was that she coughed so much that her throat was super irritated, and the more she coughed the more it was irritated--but the irritation MADE her cough, so it was like a never-ending cycle. So the cough suppressant allowed her to stop coughing and let her throat heal up. I hope your baby gets better soon. If you're like me though, it's at least a small consolation that they eat/drink and play.... they can't feel too bad!

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I to had the same problem with Riley when I got him,,in fact his kennnel cough was so bad that it progressed to pnumonia. the vet gave him zithromax and it didnt work as well as i would have liked. I found a vet web site online and it had a home remedy and they said it works in most cases where antibotics fail,,we tried it and he was better in no time..it is extreamly easy this is what we did...the home remedy was HOMEMADE chicken soup...it said to use a good chicken broth with chicked brest meat, fresh garlic, fresh parsley. carrots, and celery,,,along with a good puppy vitimin, and nutri-cal..and if the pup wont eat it to puree it and syringe feed it to them to make sure they get it..we did this and with in 7 days he was better..a small cough on occasion can linger for a few weeks...the vet site also said no cough spressant during the day because you want the stuff to come up and get out of there lungs...Riley was vry very sick and this remedy worked like a charm..mabey you can try it..good luck..if you dont want to try this I would at least get the nutri-cal to keep his energy up it has a lot of nutrients in it that wil help him while he is sick.
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hi, norma well when my little one coughs it seems that he has an itchy throat or something its not all the time but it still bothers me a lady is giving me some info.. i guess yorkies snort?? i will let you know what i find out.. i got my boys back like a week later which i believe put them at 8 or 9 weeks. my boys are still really small they weigh 3 and 4 lbs full grown . as far as her teeth thats the point of the milk it softens the food and it should help wien (?) her from the mom.. also you can get small bottles and milk and bottle feed her.. i think the reason she isnt eating unless you are there is because you make her feel secure your all she knows of her new surroundings. little dogs get really stressed out, that flight probably did it for her and she is a baby. i wouldnt worry about it she will be fine in no time.. when i used to do the milk and dog food i would have to tip the bowl so they would eat and sip the milk (i warmed it up for them). then it went to soft dog food mixed with puppy food.. then i hand fed them lol and now they are both growing little pigs unless they get sick then i have to hand feed them.. they are so fragile you really have to do so much for them,, i love it lol.. if you have anymore questions feel free to ask im new to this as well and i dont have any children they are it.. ps and anyone that tells you yorkies are hard to train are out of there minds!! ofcourse it takes time but my boys are really good.. so if you need any tips or tricks i will tell you what worked for us..
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Thank you so much for your reply. Daizee seems to be doing better and hopefully won't be coughing by the time I have to take her for her next shot. That is when the vet thought we should do an X-ray to check the trachea. Want to wait to see if this cough clears up first. Glad to hear that Lily improved!
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Krissie will cough from time to time. Nothing constant. It still freaks me out, though. I always worry about a collapsed trachea. Good Luck, I will say a prayer for your baby...

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Kennel cough is a nasty thing and can last for several months. I had bad experiences with it years ago.... Now i am the fussiest ever, with the many i have i never take them to be groomed and i am very carefull on who comes in and where i take my dogs.
My dog took forever to clear from the cough and he passed it to a litter of puppies and the "soup opera " went exhausting... finally cleared from everyone....
The Nasty it was, as long as everyone was happy and playing my vet kept assuring me it was going to be ok.... i sent the puppies home at 13 weeks old , all coughing with recommendations to have a close eye at them.... it took a while, and then started clearing and finally got better. So do not worry too much, as long as you keep a close eye and see that your pup is playing happy and eating well... it will be fine.
Also my vet is not too fond of antibiotics , so we only gave one round and kept a good diet and playtime. They all did fine and are beautiful dogs now. I am very cautious and now even much more. All the puppy owners understood it was nothing i could have done different and the puppies never needed more antibiotics after they went home.
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When I got my first puppy it had Kennel Cough also and it took what seemed forever to clear up! I think it was like 3 months?
He also had ringworm and that took like 4 months to clear up!

Keep doing what you are doing and speak to the vet again...



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Thank you everyone for your emails, concern, and prayers. Daizee is starting to eat on her own now and I am not having to hand feed her as much and she coughs only ocasionally. She does seem healthy and that is important and she has steadily gained weight which is also good. I just was trying to get some input into whether I should have x-rays taken of the trachea when I get her inoculations this weekend. Think I will wait at this point as it certainly will not hurt to wait. Am not certain if she has Kennel Cough but it certainly sounds like a nasty thing to have. Thanks again!

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