Why tiny's over teapots?

[k2p1e]

I am going to jump in here with my 2 "teeny" yorkies.

When I first wanted a yorkie I found a great breeder, her average size was 6-7lbs, the mom was 7 lbs and dad 6 lbs, smallest puppy ever was 5.5lbs.

Then came Reggie, normal size but only grew to 4lbs, on the dot. Reggie has had several falls, all from jumping off of things like the bed, and couch. We have placed staris for him so he stops that.

Well, then we decided to get him a little sister. Our breeder was amazed at how tiny Reg was. We got a sister of his (1 year apart). Kenzie stopped growing at 13 weeks and never grew agian till 17 weeks. She now weighs in at 2.4lbs. My breeder fixed her dogs b/c that size is too small.

BUT...Kenzie WAS one of those healthy as a horse, tough as nials, little dogs.
Now at age three she went for her yearly, to discover that she has brittle bones, they found a break in one knee, one forearm, and a crack in a vertrabrae. She had a major seizure at Xmas, and we nearly lost her.
After 3 years of perfect health she is going down hill and it is heart breaking.

When people go, "Awww! Look how little she is" I tell them how I know my vet's technicians ona first name basis, how much we pay out in vet meds, visits. How uncertain her future is.

I am a huge advocate of larger yorkies, I have dealt with the rapid and terrfying episodes of hypoglycemia, some come on with no warning (I moniter their food to make sure they eat enough).

I can tell you that one bout is a $220 vet bill...(my vets love me...)

I LOVE my yorkies, no question, I want a whole household. But these cute little dogs come with a price, monetary that is ongoing and in your heart.

[BlondieGirl87]

Originally Posted by browniesmom622

i think in the end we can all agree that health is more important than size
if you dont agree mabee you shouldnt own any dog

I agree, health is the most important thing, whether its a 13 pound dog or a 2pound dog and yes, sometimes the 2 pound one is healthier. Just because a dog is big doesn't mean that its healthier and it seems like people with bigger yorkies are the ones who are saying that the bigger ones are better and putting down the little ones. There are advantages to owning a bigger dog and advantages to owning a smaller dog. Personally, I like mine to be within the standard of what they are supposed to be.

However, the most important thing is that you have a healthy dog that you love and care for! Who really cares how much it weighs or what it looks like? Its your dog and if you love it, I say BRAVO to you!!

[ehunney]

Originally Posted by BlondieGirl87

I agree, health is the most important thing, whether its a 13 pound dog or a 2pound dog and yes, sometimes the 2 pound one is healthier. Just because a dog is big doesn't mean that its healthier and it seems like people with bigger yorkies are the ones who are saying that the bigger ones are better and putting down the little ones. There are advantages to owning a bigger dog and advantages to owning a smaller dog. Personally, I like mine to be within the standard of what they are supposed to be.

However, the most important thing is that you have a healthy dog that you love and care for! Who really cares how much it weighs or what it looks like? Its your dog and if you love it, I say BRAVO to you!!

Bravo! You made some excellent points!

[Nikki+2]

Originally Posted by ehunney

I mentioned the point about paris hilton and dogs as accessaries as a general statement, because those are main reasons why a lot of people like super tiny yorkies. I was in the mall the other day and a young girl was asking her mother for a teacup dog for christmas, because she wanted to "dress it up and tote it around in a juicy bag". It's sad, but a lot of people see them as a trend, but I also said of course no yters feel this way. I know YTers put a ton of energy, emotion, time, devotion and love into their yorkies and they don't have them to keep up with a fleeting "trend". But for people who don't value their yorkies like YTers and other responsible dog owners, this ignorant mentality fuels puppymills and people breeding too tiny moms .

Sorry if it seemed like I was singling you out. After 140 something posts, I don't really remember who all has said what. In general, the Paris comment comes up whenever this topic comes up and I tend to get a bit touchy if I feel like I am being put in a category with her . I completely agree with you that the trend towards viewing small dogs as accessories is disgusting.

[Reesie]

How interesting it is to hear everyone's opinion on this particular breed. I have had a poodle,schnauzer,cairn terrier and other mixed breeds throughout my life. I like animals sometimes better than I do people. They love you unconditionally!! We saw an ad in the paper for a yorkie puppy for $500.00 and it was the last of the litter. I knew NOTHING about yorkies other than my best friend was a breeder, but her puppies were $1200.00 and I was not prepared to pay that much. We bought that $500.00 puppy. Her daddy was 6 pounds and her momma was 9. Common sense told us that Reesie could either take after her daddy and be little or she could take after her mamma and be bigger. We could have cared less. I was so uneducated about yorkies I thought you had to have their ears cropped and that was why Reesie's ears were floppy. (Remember I had a Schnauzer and their ears are floppy until you crop them.) I know some of you are saying right now WHAT AN IDIOT!!! That's OK Reesie ended up not only like her mamma, but she has almost 2 more pounds on her. When I called my friend (the yorkie breeder) to tell her about Reesie the first question after I told her what I paid was how big are the parents and are their ears erect. When I told her she said Reesie came from bad breeding and that's why she was so cheap. I have since forgiven her for that statement and she still calls Reesie a brute and now believe it or not I have one of her puppies.(I got the family discount).Abbie will probably be around 5 pounds and her ears are erect and she's just perfect. Just like by 10 pound 9 ounce floppy eared cotton coated baby girl. I love them both unconditionally.

[Nikki+2]

Originally Posted by ehunney

I wasn't trying to say anyone said over standard yorkies aren't worthy of everything standard yorkies are, or directing my comment towards any past post. I was just the posing the question that because a yorkie isn't perfect and standard it doesn't deserve the same admiration as one that is closer to the AKC standards? I'm for both tinies and teapots. I think their both beautiful, I just don't like the way some people tend to look down on larger yorkies simply beacuse they're bigger (well, no yorkie's really big ....lol). If it's a yorkie, it's an A+ in my book, haha!

I agree that nobody should look down on larger yorkies which was the point I was making. We all have personal preferences and they are all based an opinion. One opinion isn't more right than the other. As I mentioned, I have a 10 lb yorkie who I already stated is a prettier yorkie than my 3 lb. The point I have tried to make in every post (in general- not directed at you) is large or small, health is the first priority and the best chance at that is getting your puppy from a reputable breeder and reputable breeders breed to standard.

ps- you're so right! All yorkies get an A+ (picture the yorkies rock smilie here- can't do it in edit)

[ehunney]

Originally Posted by Nikki+2

Sorry if it seemed like I was singling you out. After 140 something posts, I don't really remember who all has said what. In general, the Paris comment comes up whenever this topic comes up and I tend to get a bit touchy if I feel like I am being put in a category with her . I completely agree with you that the trend towards viewing small dogs as accessories is disgusting.

Don't worry about! I just don't want you and other Yter's to think I view you like that or think you guys have any similarities to Paris hilton. I respect you and other members so much for the way you love your yorkies and value them and I hold you in the highest esteem. I'm always checking threads for pics of your cuties

[baileysmom31]

Originally Posted by k2p1e

I am going to jump in here with my 2 "teeny" yorkies.

When I first wanted a yorkie I found a great breeder, her average size was 6-7lbs, the mom was 7 lbs and dad 6 lbs, smallest puppy ever was 5.5lbs.

Then came Reggie, normal size but only grew to 4lbs, on the dot. Reggie has had several falls, all from jumping off of things like the bed, and couch. We have placed staris for him so he stops that.

Well, then we decided to get him a little sister. Our breeder was amazed at how tiny Reg was. We got a sister of his (1 year apart). Kenzie stopped growing at 13 weeks and never grew agian till 17 weeks. She now weighs in at 2.4lbs. My breeder fixed her dogs b/c that size is too small.

BUT...Kenzie WAS one of those healthy as a horse, tough as nials, little dogs.
Now at age three she went for her yearly, to discover that she has brittle bones, they found a break in one knee, one forearm, and a crack in a vertrabrae. She had a major seizure at Xmas, and we nearly lost her.
After 3 years of perfect health she is going down hill and it is heart breaking.

When people go, "Awww! Look how little she is" I tell them how I know my vet's technicians ona first name basis, how much we pay out in vet meds, visits. How uncertain her future is.

I am a huge advocate of larger yorkies, I have dealt with the rapid and terrfying episodes of hypoglycemia, some come on with no warning (I moniter their food to make sure they eat enough).

I can tell you that one bout is a $220 vet bill...(my vets love me...)

I LOVE my yorkies, no question, I want a whole household. But these cute little dogs come with a price, monetary that is ongoing and in your heart.

I totally agree

[Nikki+2]

Originally Posted by ehunney

Don't worry about! I just don't want you and other Yter's to think I view you like that or think you guys have any similarities to Paris hilton. I respect you and other members so much for the way you love your yorkies and value them and I hold you in the highest esteem. I'm always checking threads for pics of your cuties

Okay everyone- big group hug!


Big or small we love them all!- Oh yeah, I am such a poet.

And since I couldn't add it to my last post in edit...

[Emmsmom]

I bought Diesel hoping he would be small based on his mom and dad and past pups. I was really hoping for the best and things worked out great! That being said some here have said that they went looking for larger Yorkies. That isn't something that I would do. I wanted a standard size Yorkie.
Now, would I have gotten rid of Diesel if he had gotten bigger? Of course not!! He is my baby so it wouldn't have mattered. I do prefer the smaller ones but it wouldn't have changed the way I feel about Diesel!

[YorkieShadow]

Originally Posted by Bama Yorkie Mom

To me its like buying a house, a car, a bird, a cat or anything. Everyone is different and like different things. So therefore, its just a personal preference for who ever is doing the buying. And I feel like whoever buys and pays should get what they are looking for if possible without being criticized or giving an explaination. What would anyone say if everyone wanted a big one and nobody would buy the little ones? Then they would all be wondering why nobody wanted to take care of a little ones. Woud everyone feel like nobody had the patience, money for vet bills or whatever. Would they all be in rescue or put out to be killed or starved? Some dogs just dont get big, just like kids. In my opinion, to each his own without question. I dont question anyone for whatever size they get. It must be what they want for whatever reason. I have a big one and a small one. I love them both, but I didnt want one over 5 or 6 lbs, due to lots of reason. I do not take mine place hardly at all except to the vet or a few times to the pet store. They dont visit relatives. I wanted 2 under 6 lbs due to the fact, that is just what I wanted and hubby works and makes our money so we spend it on our preferences and I dont owe any explaination for what we spend it on, whatever it may be. I dont criticize others for their choices in life. To each his/her own. So please don't take this personal, its just my honest opinion. I feel everyone should please them selves, their the ones that have to live with their decisions. I think I've seen more threads here about this one topic than anything else I think.

I agree
Why does anyone have to explain their reason for the size of their pet? Its their decision. and thats all you see any more.

[genie]

Originally Posted by kalina82

morgan is 3 pounds and i leave her home all by her little self when i'm at work. she's a healthy as any of your bigger yorkies. i hate how a lot of posts lately about tiny ones have been stating how sickly and incredibly fragile they are. morgan may be only 3 pounds but she's a sturdy little bugger and was playing with bulldogs, shih tzu's and schnauzer's yesterday at the dog park like she was their size (and she definately was much much smaller) i don't baby her because of her size and i don't feel like i have this tiny little breakable dog that i have to be extra careful with . i'll put her in a kennel and i'm going to start taking her to doggie daycare.

How old is your baby? My baby weighs 2.6lbs and she is 15 weeks old. I think she will get to be about 4.5lbs, but I don't care if she gets bigger.

[abbie's mom]

Originally Posted by Nikki+2

Big or small we love them all

Since this is true, could we make this the 'official' YT motto?

[sashajade]

ive had 7 yorkies all in all and i can honestly say not once did there size even enter my head when i got them, i picked each one on how i felt about them
in the uk most of the yorkies i see are on the large size so the larger sized ones are more normal here i think and you dont get strangers say what breeds that as they no its a yorkie.
my brandi is about 15 pound, tye is about 9 now he has lost his fatty tum and zac is about 10 now hes lost his fatty tum and i love them just the way they are but i still would if they were tiny, size doesnt matter they are all yorkies and full of love.
but saying that if this breed keeps getting smaller it will die out as there will be no females of breeding size left.
imo i think breed standard should be looked at again, the yorkie is the only breed i can think of that can come in so many sizes but is not included in the breed standard anymore.
breed standard should be about the health of the breed not just how it looks, breed standard has made some breeds unhealthy ie pug, and bulldog come to mind, a bulldog has been bred to have such a flat nose it has problems breathing and a head so large it cant give birth.
i love all sized yorkies and would of chose the yorkies i have even if they were tiny but i do think the breed standard should have a mininmum weight ie not under 3 or 4 pounds to protect the breed and to protect these tiny ones as it will stop these horrible breeders from breeding them.

[JiggityJig]

I see no reason to change the max. weight of the standard, but I'd like to see the standard include a minimum weight of 4 lbs. (and I say that as an owner of a dog who is under three lbs).

However, that still would most definitely NOT stop the breeders who are delibately breeding for the extremely small sizes! That will only stop with the demand for them goes away.

BUT...Kenzie WAS one of those healthy as a horse, tough as nials, little dogs.
Now at age three she went for her yearly, to discover that she has brittle bones, they found a break in one knee, one forearm, and a crack in a vertrabrae. She had a major seizure at Xmas, and we nearly lost her.
After 3 years of perfect health she is going down hill and it is heart breaking.

This makes me sad to read. Mazie has had a rough start in life, but at a little over a year, she has had NO health issues at all. The vet always pronounces her perfectly sound and hale, even though she seems so fragile to me. I hate to think of her bones becoming brittle so early in life. Is there any way to help prevent this, do you know?