Why tiny's over teapots?

[JACKSON'S MOMMY]

GREAT POST

[BlondieGirl87]

Originally Posted by ehunney

To be honest with everyone, I love the tinies! I think they are so adorable, petite and look like puppies forever. I adore them. BUT I also absolutely LOVE yorkies that are 6 pounds and over. They're cuddley and beautiful and like I said earlier in the thread, the most beautiful yorkies I've ever seen were 6 pounds and over. I don't see a problem with people wanting and loving tinies, I want one in the very near future, but I don't like the way people act like larger yorkies are defective, inferior, not as cute or attractive as tinies and not true yorkies simply because they're not 3 lbs. My tucker was only 4 lbs. and I get so offended when people insinuate that tinies are somehow superior to larger yorkies. It saddens me that people can't see beauty in all sizes

I totally get what you are saying and do hate when people get so offensive and playing the my dog is smaller than your dog game . I think the most important thing for any owner who owns a dog is that you love them for everything they are. Whether they are big or small, whether they are 6 years old and not potty trained Whether they tear up your sofa or harass your cat You love them regardless! I don't think people should act like the "bigger" yorkies are defective but I do think you have to realize where some people are coming from. Myself, I am very picky about my preferences when it comes to pets. I like my pets to be AKC and within the AKC standard and for yorkies that's under 7 pounds. Growing up all of our pets were AKC and that's just what I became accustomed to.

So, when people act like bigger yorkies are "not superior" maybe they are just meaning they are not within the standard and are wording it wrong. I personally don't think that weight makes them any less loveable or cuddable or cute. I've seen some 8-10 pound yorkies that are adorable! On the other hand I've seen some others that don't look like yorkies at all... both big and small ones, and to me, I want a yorkie that looks like a yorkie. I want specific colors, a certain type of coat, erect ears, a cropped tail and a certain build. So maybe you can understand where some people are coming from when they say that a "Big" yorkie isn't a "true yorkie" perhaps they just mean that a big yorkie is not within the standards, but besides weight this goes for colors and everything else. I always wonder why people get so caught up in the numbers....I mean you don't see post about my yorkie has a cropped tail and yours doesn't or my yorkie's coat is the exact perfect colors and yours is a chocolate. An animal can't choose what it looks like, how much it weighs or even its tempermant. Some people don't even know exactly what kind of yorkie they are getting until its grown up. Maybe someone wanted a tiny and ended up with a big one? I don't think everyone should own a tiny and I don't think everyone should own a bigger yorkie but I do think everyone should respect the fact that everyone else has the right to own whatever it is they like best and if other people don't like it as well or think there dog is cuter or superior than the others...who cares? You love them right?? And that's all that counts

[angelee]

Originally Posted by BubblPopElectrc

Not to be rude, and this isn't directed only at you, but why does everyone get all in arms when people prefer "standard" (under seven pounds according to AKC) yorkies?

To be frank, If I wanted a "teapot" sized dog, I'd go with a larger breed who's standard is larger.

I don't know about others that have teapots but as for me...I didn't set out to get a particular size dog. My first one was a stray and she turned out to be a teapot and I couldn't have loved her more. My second one turned out to be bigger too and I love him the same...I don't want a larger breed dog...I want a Yorkie no matter what the size. I will say this however, I had no idea that Yorkie's came in the tiny size. Now that I think about it...I guess size does matter...I wouldn't want one that tiny (under 6 pounds).

I suppose what you proposed to the teapot owners about going with a larger breed could be said to the tiny owners. Maybe they should go with a smaller breed dog.

Also, if people want a "standad' size for their breed, great. On the other side...Yorkie's tend to get bigger sometimes...what's wrong with people wanting them? What would you suggest we do with the teapots if everyone went for the "standard" size?

[ehunney]

Originally Posted by angelee

I suppose what you proposed to the teapot owners about going with a larger breed could be said to the tiny owners. Maybe they should go with a smaller breed dog.

Also, if people want a "standad' size for their breed, great. On the other side...Yorkie's tend to get bigger sometimes...what's wrong with people wanting them? What would you suggest we do with the teapots if everyone went for the "standard" size?

That's true! You have a better chance of finding a 2-3 pound Chihuahua then a tiny yorkie. Also, what do people suggest we do with the over standard yorkies? Because they're not 3 lb.s they don't deserve as much attention, admiration and respect?

[Nikki+2]

Originally Posted by ehunney

That's true! You have a better chance of finding a 2-3 pound Chihuahua then a tiny yorkie. Also, what do people suggest we do with the over standard yorkies? Because they're not 3 lb.s they don't deserve as much attention, admiration and respect?

Awww, I hope nobody interprets the responses on this thread as larger than standard yorkies aren't worthy of everything that standard yorkies are. Of course they are and unless I missed something (always possible ) I didn't see where anyone said that. The question was why do some people prefer tiny yorkies. Some people said I wanted a tiny because of A, B and C and some people said I wanted a large yorkie because of A, B and C. There's nothing wrong with that- we all have our own opinions. My main point was responsible breeders do not intentionally breed for larger than standard dogs and they also don't intentionally breed for so called teacups. Just because your dog is large does not mean it's any healthier than a small dog. That comes down to buying your puppy from a breeder who has learned what they were doing and breeding good, healthy- and yes- standard lines.

[Nikki+2]

Just thought of one more thing- sorry I'm on a role . This type of topic tends to to take a bad turn when someone mentions Paris Hilton, dogs as accessories, etc. Someone who would frequent a forum based on their dog's breed and be an active participant on that board because they love talking about their dog and love reading about other people's dogs obviously love their dog. I seriously doubt there are any Paris wanna be's on this board that stick around. Those of us who have little yorkies and despise the type of person who uses them as accessories understandably get a little sensitive when this comes up.

[SweetCuteness]

Originally Posted by FlDebra

Actually the 7 pounds and under was only started in the 1960's before that there were two classes -- under 5 pounds and over 5 pounds.

I have to wonder what you would think if someone made a post asking "what is the fascination with larger yorkies -- why would anyone want one that big?" Wouldn't that be sort of on the mean side and maybe trying to cause some hard feeling?

I'm not trying to start anything, but I think your response here is kind of harsh. She was just asking a question - if you're offended by it, don't respond, and move on to another thread. If you really want to get specific, the original Yorkshire Terrier was 12-14lbs and the standard size has grown smaller as the years have passed.

There is this stupid craze over "teacup" yorkies - it's a fad - and I don't care what anyone says, the tiny yorkies... in the 1-3lb range are very much more prone to getting hurt. My little guy is 3lbs and has hurt himself several times by falling or jumping from too high. I definitely wish he was larger.

[JACKSON'S MOMMY]

No one EVER said anything negative about bigger yorkies!! And if someone does don't argue with ignorance! Good grief I think we have bent over backwards not to imply anything negative. But people sure as heck have said some negative stuff about the smaller ones, always heaping "health issues" on them. Health issue or not, large or small it depends on the BREEDER!! 99% of the stories on here about dogs getting sick and dying are from bad breeders or pet stores. And most of it happened in puppyhood. How do we know that that same dog wasn't gonna be a 10lb dog??? We don't because it died!!! And if it does survive it can still be traced to the quality of the breeder most of the time. Half the time the growth charts are wrong anyway so you don't know what your gonna get.

The whole thread was started asking us to explain why we have the smaller end of the stick when it comes to yorkies. I swear for people to have to sit here and DEFEND why they got a small, large, fat, skinny, droopy eared or pointed earred dog is beyond me!!!!

Why don't we sub categorize them and debate these points?
silky vs cotton
docked tail vs non docked
biewer vs standard
parti vs standard
pointed ears vs droopy ears
cute vs not so cute

What is up with this US (tinys) vs Them (over standard) mentality here??? I mean I know we are all yorkie lovers but some of us are harboring some serious issues and just won't admit it. Why don't you just go out an get a smaller yorkie and be done with it??? If you are reading something into a post that isn't there then it must have your own hidden insecurities about your dog. GET OVER IT!!!

[SweetCuteness]

Originally Posted by JACKSON'S MOMMY

No one EVER said anything negative about bigger yorkies!! And if someone does don't argue with ignorance! Good grief I think we have bent over backwards not to imply anything negative. But people sure as heck have said some negative stuff about the smaller ones, always heaping "health issues" on them. Health issue or not, large or small it depends on the BREEDER!! 99% of the stories on here about dogs getting sick and dying are from bad breeders or pet stores. And most of it happened in puppyhood. How do we know that that same dog wasn't gonna be a 10lb dog??? We don't because it died!!! And if it does survive it can still be traced to the quality of the breeder most of the time. Half the time the growth charts are wrong anyway so you don't know what your gonna get.

The whole thread was started asking us to explain why we have the smaller end of the stick when it comes to yorkies. I swear for people to have to sit here and DEFEND why they got a small, large, fat, skinny, droopy eared or pointed earred dog is beyond me!!!!

Why don't we sub categorize them and debate these points?
silky vs cotton
docked tail vs non docked
biewer vs standard
parti vs standard
pointed ears vs droopy ears
cute vs not so cute

What is up with this US (tinys) vs Them (over standard) mentality here??? I mean I know we are all yorkie lovers but some of us are harboring some serious issues and just won't admit it. Why don't you just go out an get a smaller yorkie and be done with it??? If you are reading something into a post that isn't there then it must have your own hidden insecurities about your dog. GET OVER IT!!!

I don't know who this post was directed to because you didn't quote anyone - but if it is in reference to my post above, I never said anything bad about larger yorkies... and I never said all tiny yorkies are sick - I said they are more prone to injury.

This is just a discussion... not an argument or debate. It's annoying to me when people provide rude or harsh responses directed at someone. All of our members on YT are lovers of yorkies, and we are here to discuss them... in a mature way instead of saying things like your last sentence quoted above. I'm not trying to personally attack you in any way, shape, or form - just giving you my opinion that I don't think we should be attacking other members.

BTW, I do have a small Yorkie - he's 3 lbs... and I think he's cute as heck. BUT I do wish he was closer to 5-6lbs.

[Lexi's_Mommy]

I didn't read all the responses so I may be repeating what has already been said.

I get a bit angry when everyone is wanting tinies for ONE reason, the MOST important reason, and that is because MOST people who want these tinies are buying from breeders who are breeding TINY females that are too small to breed. WHAT ABOUT THE MOMMIES???

Also many people want a tiny so bad that they don't care about quality. WHAT HAPPEN BREEDING TO BETTER THE BREED?

[abbie's mom]

Took Abigail in today for checkup, and my 6lber has gained almost a whole pound since spaying! She weighed in at 6.7 - which is only notable, because I kept thinking: "ghee...is she getting heavier, or am I just that weak?" Now, to stay in topic - I do NOT care how big she gets, as long as she's healthy, and the weight is appropriate for her frame. In HER case, I think (as does the vet), I need to either exercise her more, or watch her intake. I will say, as I've said before, that I prefer a 5-6lber because of MY physical weaknesses: back and knees, and I want a lap dog that I can just scoop up. She sure is cuddly with her rolly polly self, though! In judging weight, one should be able to feel their rib cage, easily, right? Well, we can feel it - it's just - padded.

[Gayle_T]

Originally Posted by FlDebra

Actually the 7 pounds and under was only started in the 1960's before that there were two classes -- under 5 pounds and over 5 pounds.

I have to wonder what you would think if someone made a post asking "what is the fascination with larger yorkies -- why would anyone want one that big?" Wouldn't that be sort of on the mean side and maybe trying to cause some hard feeling?

I guess I just have to say that our 10 month old Yorkie "Taylor" is the love of our life. We expected him to be under 7 lbs but he is a bouncing 11 pounder. I see both sides of this but I guess that the "saying" that "Yorkie's are like a box of chocolates"....is true. Taylor's parents were much smaller....but we are happy because we take boat trips and if he was tiny it would be hard and much more dangerous for him. We love him so much and unless you have pictured only ONE expectation of what you want, and are totally set on a size, then you might be disappointed... Yorkie's are just a bundle of LOVE!

[ehunney]

Originally Posted by Nikki+2

Just thought of one more thing- sorry I'm on a role . This type of topic tends to to take a bad turn when someone mentions Paris Hilton, dogs as accessories, etc. Someone who would frequent a forum based on their dog's breed and be an active participant on that board because they love talking about their dog and love reading about other people's dogs obviously love their dog. I seriously doubt there are any Paris wanna be's on this board that stick around. Those of us who have little yorkies and despise the type of person who uses them as accessories understandably get a little sensitive when this comes up.

I mentioned the point about paris hilton and dogs as accessaries as a general statement, because those are main reasons why a lot of people like super tiny yorkies. I was in the mall the other day and a young girl was asking her mother for a teacup dog for christmas, because she wanted to "dress it up and tote it around in a juicy bag". It's sad, but a lot of people see them as a trend, but I also said of course no yters feel this way. I know YTers put a ton of energy, emotion, time, devotion and love into their yorkies and they don't have them to keep up with a fleeting "trend". But for people who don't value their yorkies like YTers and other responsible dog owners, this ignorant mentality fuels puppymills and people breeding too tiny moms .

[ehunney]

Originally Posted by Nikki+2

Awww, I hope nobody interprets the responses on this thread as larger than standard yorkies aren't worthy of everything that standard yorkies are. Of course they are and unless I missed something (always possible ) I didn't see where anyone said that. The question was why do some people prefer tiny yorkies. Some people said I wanted a tiny because of A, B and C and some people said I wanted a large yorkie because of A, B and C. There's nothing wrong with that- we all have our own opinions. My main point was responsible breeders do not intentionally breed for larger than standard dogs and they also don't intentionally breed for so called teacups. Just because your dog is large does not mean it's any healthier than a small dog. That comes down to buying your puppy from a breeder who has learned what they were doing and breeding good, healthy- and yes- standard lines.

I wasn't trying to say anyone said over standard yorkies aren't worthy of everything standard yorkies are, or directing my comment towards any past post. I was just the posing the question that because a yorkie isn't perfect and standard it doesn't deserve the same admiration as one that is closer to the AKC standards? I'm for both tinies and teapots. I think their both beautiful, I just don't like the way some people tend to look down on larger yorkies simply beacuse they're bigger (well, no yorkie's really big ....lol). If it's a yorkie, it's an A+ in my book, haha!

[browniesmom622]

i think in the end we can all agree that health is more important than size
if you dont agree mabee you shouldnt own any dog