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Old 03-10-2011, 08:08 PM   #61
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I agree with this. I cannot COUNT the number of times that I have heard or read" I would NEVER want a dog THAT small" (said looking down nose)! What if I were to say to a teapot owner " oh I HATE big Yorkies No way would I ever want to own one of THOSE ~ they are WAAAAYYY to BIG"

People just have double standards. I understand why the stand is made in certain situations but ALL of us with tinys don't deserve to be be told that our dogs are less than because they are small IMHO

Did we meet at the pet boutique walk benefit for shelter dogs three months ago...because that's pretty verbatim....?


Well my dog is healthy so neener! (I know you were joking so am I-my teapot has arthritis and epilepsy...)

But wow hate is a strong word...my kids aren't allowed to use that word it's worse than the F-bomb in my house...not that they are allowed to use that word either...preferences are one thing but jeez

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Actually, we (teapot/the whole dang bakery owners) hear that quite a bit. Most often accompanied by a sneer and the statement that we must not own PURE BRED yorkies because of their size.
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Old 03-10-2011, 08:12 PM   #62
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Oh, I had a tiny - Jilly weighed 3 lbs. grown. She was the runt of the litter. It had been almost 5 years since I had lost my Yorkie, Scotty, who was small, so I really went looking for a big, healthy Yorkie pup that would not be likely to have as many health issues as I'd heard the small Yorkies can have. I was fortunate with Scotty in that though he was small, he was quite healthy but I didn't want to take a chance with a small Yorkie again. Despite my determination to buy "big", I bypassed other puppies the breeder had that were going to be bigger Yorkies because they weren't ready to go until they were 10 weeks. Once I saw Jilly, the runt and last of her litter, all of which I was told were normal-sized Yorkies, as were her mom and dad, both of which I saw, I wanted only her. She was only 2 1/2 lbs. at 4 1/2 mos. old, totally vulnerable and I just could not stand to see her maybe go to a home where she would not be treated like the fragile little baby that she was and maybe not be given all the very best care she might need. The breeder had kept her because she would not place her other than with a very cautious woman with no children at home, and as she knew me, I was approved for Jilly. My Jilly was a little sparkling gem, but she was fragile and very prone to health problems. She had terrible G-I problems and malabsorption syndrome and nearly died from that the first 4 mos. I had her. She jumped off of the bed once and really hurt herself. Out walking, a Dalmation came out of no where, Jilly spurted forward growling and barking on her leash while I was trying to grab her up and fend off the big dog and she was attacked, seriously injurying her, worse because she was so tiny, the vet said. Thank God I had a walking stick with me and got in a few swipes to run him off but that dog still chased us to the end of the block, only backing off when I would turn and brandish the cane as Jilly seized over and over. Another time she almost choked to death. We spent many days, nights and overnights at the vet's office but Jilly fought through all her problems with her typical toughness of spirit. She lived 12 1/2 years. I would not take anything for Jilly's lovely little life but I do not want another Yorkie under 5 lbs. It is just too painful to see a little dog you love dearly go through all the things tiny Jilly went through and it not affect you profoundly.
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All great responses so far. "I am Sam" made me cry.
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Honestly people. If you don't like the way someone responds to others, use the "ignore" feature. Sitting here preaching about how others should or shouldn't respond isn't going to change anyone's mind. It's funny how the ones who go off on how judgmental everyone else is don't seem to realize that they are doing the very same thing.

It's the internet. People deal with things in different ways. When someone posts on an open forum, they are going to get responses that run the gamut. As the saying goes "Put your big girl panties on and deal with it."

The point is not whether or not someone can take the heat, but whether or not those types of responses do any good. If you just run the person off, you haven't done one bit of good, you have helped NO ONE neither human nor dog. YT is supposed to be informative and educational, not a place to flex your muscles.
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" an accidental pregnancy"

Really? IMO no pet owner should ever have an "accidental pregnancy". To me that means you are not taking the steps and precautions of being a responsible pet owner. Owning a dog is not just a privilege-it's a responsibility, its our job to do all the steps to make sure our pet is healthy. One of those steps is spay and neuter so the "accidental pregnancy" does not happen.
but it does happen and then you get someone telling you to have her spayed, kill the puppies and I dont know how anyone else feels but that would never happen here.
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What if dad's offspring are too big for her to carry or whelp safely for her small size? If I didn't know dad's size, I would spay to prevent my little girl maybe having her uterus perforated by too much puppy weight, dying alone, bleeding and in pain, since no one is ever able to be with them all day every day through an entire pregnancy, in most cases. I don't think anyone would want to just kill puppies willy-nilly as we are all huge dog-lovers here, but I would be more afraid of losing my little girl in a horrible way if I did not spay once she was diagnosed as pregnant and I had no idea of dad's size.
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The point is not whether or not someone can take the heat, but whether or not those types of responses do any good. If you just run the person off, you haven't done one bit of good, you have helped NO ONE neither human nor dog. YT is supposed to be informative and educational, not a place to flex your muscles.
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What if dad's offspring are too big for her to carry or whelp safely for her small size? If I didn't know dad's size, I would spay to prevent my little girl maybe having her uterus perforated by too much puppy weight, dying alone, bleeding and in pain, since no one is ever able to be with them all day every day through an entire pregnancy, in most cases. I don't think anyone would want to just kill puppies willy-nilly as we are all huge dog-lovers here, but I would be more afraid of losing my little girl in a horrible way if I did not spay once she was diagnosed as pregnant and I had no idea of dad's size.
That's the educational point we need...if people are so against euthanasia...prevent pregnancy!
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That's the educational point we need...if people are so against euthanasia...prevent pregnancy!

Couldn't have said this any better!
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The point is not whether or not someone can take the heat, but whether or not those types of responses do any good. If you just run the person off, you haven't done one bit of good, you have helped NO ONE neither human nor dog. YT is supposed to be informative and educational, not a place to flex your muscles.
This is it in a nutshell folks. How can you help someone, if they will no longer speak up?
I too am tired of the "Lumpy was tied with the Bumpy...and there might be puppies... HELP" type of threads.
Getting upset and scaring off the OP does NOTHING to help Lumpy and her pups. The "fanatical type' mentality that goes on in some of these threads is the main reason I stay out of them. Kudo's to those who try and help in a rational, helpful way.
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The point is not whether or not someone can take the heat, but whether or not those types of responses do any good. If you just run the person off, you haven't done one bit of good, you have helped NO ONE neither human nor dog. YT is supposed to be informative and educational, not a place to flex your muscles.

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This is it in a nutshell folks. How can you help someone, if they will no longer speak up?
I too am tired of the "Lumpy was tied with the Bumpy...and there might be puppies... HELP" type of threads.
Getting upset and scaring off the OP does NOTHING to help Lumpy and her pups. The "fanatical type' mentality that goes on in some of these threads is the main reason I stay out of them. Kudo's to those who try and help in a rational, helpful way.
Many people come here looking for help and information. They are looking in a great place for that information and that is a good thing. They are trying to do the right thing.

I myself have had "regular" memebers attack me for things here and there. Sometimes it seems like poeple are just looking to start a fight.

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My issue with "teacups" is when people purposely are breeding for TINIER and TINIER dogs. And then you get people who see these adorable little things and want to carry them in their purse all day long... and never let them walk, or play like a regular dog, or go outside, or do natural dog things! THAT is what I find sad. I understand that just like I have a preference, some have a preference to have a smaller dog and that is totally fine. I have no issue with a smaller dog... Jackson's best friends are 4lb and 6lb yorkies and they are treated just as Jackson is and get to do all sorts of dog things. I just think the general public think that just because a dog is tiny they require no amount of exercise or are allowed to be a dog and I think that tiny dogs can be dangerous in the hands of people who don't know what they are doing -that's what scares ME about the tinies! Not everyone who gets them are as good Yorkie parents as us here on YT!
(I chopped your post :P it was longggggg)

This really bothers me too. A huge reason being my Lula-mae is 3 pounds. We have taken multiple training classes, she is one test away from being a certified therapy dog and is very well behaved. She only eats dog food (ok maybe a bit of cheese here and there) because she is my DOG (you have no idea how many hands with people food I have slapped).

Almost everytime I carry my dog while walking on a busy sidewalk I get dirty looks... I want to scream...DUDE SHE IS 3 POUNDS! SHE WILL GET STEPPED ON!
It is the people mentioned above that cause those dirty looks I get.
Lula is perfect. She is a happy, healthy, well behaved dog. I put in a lot of effort while she was a puppy to ensure that. I expected her to be bigger but I wouldnt change one thing about her.
I need to constantly be on the defence. It can be quite exausting.
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I understand where the OP is coming from and when I first joined YT I felt the exact same way. I had a couple of members PM me telling me horrible stories about other members and how they treat their dogs (can't remember the names of the members now because I deleted the messages a long time ago), and I also removed my age because I felt some members were talking down to me (this changed when I removed my age).

This is a public forum and everyone is different, you cant start up a public discussion without getting mixed responses, some which you might not agree with.
But once you have been here a while you get sick of seeing the same old threads about pregnant bitches and dogs which need to see a vet ASAP but their owner wont take them, and it's hard to keep your cool at times like that. Most members here are very passionate, sometimes they come across as harsh, but we all have the dogs best interest at heart.

Once you have been here a while longer you will begin to recognise certain members and know their personality and what to expect. Some are blunt while others sugar coat advice, personally I prefer the blunt approach.
When I first joined I had a 6 week old pup and didn't have a clue, I will admit I was in the wrong and should have been more educated. I came here for advice and I got lots of it, thanks to the members here my Poppy is still alive and doing wonderfully. I don't know what I would do without YT. Yes I got some not so nice responses to some of my threads, but because I cared for Poppy and wanted the best advice and help I could get for her I stuck around, and Im glad I did.

If you don't like a certain member's personality or the way they post then simply click ignore and forget about it.
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Sometimes people do not educate themselves before they start breeding. Sometimes even after given sound advice on the given situation they go ahead and do what they wanted any way. Yes that's their right to do so. But time after time people come on ask for advice, people go out of their way to give them it. People that know what they are talking about . It may not be easy for the new comers some times. But it's also not easy for the ones that see this day after day after day , take the time to answer only to have it thrown back in thier face. WOW some even turn out to be made up stories. It is not easy for both sides as I see it. JMHO
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" an accidental pregnancy"

Really? IMO no pet owner should ever have an "accidental pregnancy". To me that means you are not taking the steps and precautions of being a responsible pet owner. Owning a dog is not just a privilege-it's a responsibility, its our job to do all the steps to make sure our pet is healthy. One of those steps is spay and neuter so the "accidental pregnancy" does not happen.
Well no teenager should have an accidental pregnancy either but it happens.I realcize that some of you are just darn near perfect, but the rest of us aren't and in our lives sh** happens. That is probably difficult for perfect people to understand.
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