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Old 03-06-2008, 08:29 AM   #1
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so I am crate trainning Gracie... today is the first day!!! she is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooo sad.... and its making me just as much if not more sad.... but I know it will only do harm in potty training to give in and get her out... its sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooo hard!!! please tell me its all worth it in the end!!! how long did it take your baby to be potty trained? thanks so much Im in tears just listening to her.... she just threw up from crying so much... now do I clean it now? or when its time to take her out???
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Old 03-06-2008, 09:22 AM   #2
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Awww I feel your pain. I never crate trained Murfee so I can't give you advice on how long it takes. I potty trained him to go outside. I really had good luck with it.
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so I am crate trainning Gracie... today is the first day!!! she is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooo sad.... and its making me just as much if not more sad.... but I know it will only do harm in potty training to give in and get her out... its sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooo hard!!! please tell me its all worth it in the end!!! how long did it take your baby to be potty trained? thanks so much Im in tears just listening to her.... she just threw up from crying so much... now do I clean it now? or when its time to take her out???
take her out... don't let her get so upset that she is throwing up. Crate training during the day should be limited. Take her out to potty... play with her.. then put her in... it isn't in her crate all day... only all night... i never crate trained layla during the day and she was potty trained outisde just fine. you just have to keep an eye on her... Layla went outside every hour on the hour.... if it is making you both THAT upset.. i woudln't do it... when she gets tired.. put her in there to nap.

also i'm guessing that she is just a puppy righT? she isn't used to being confined alone like that.. she is used to her mom and dad and siblings.. so take her out and comfort her.. give her a treat for being such a good girl. and play... then take her out again... and let her nap/eat.
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Old 03-06-2008, 09:49 AM   #4
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I'd take her out.
Ellie was never crate trained and she knows where to potty but very often just doesn't do what she is supposed to. You know, it is annoying but I'd rather her "forget" where she is supposed to go and enjoy herself then keep her in a crate most of the day. I got a puppy so I could be with her and play with her. That doesn't happen if they are in a crate. I know that is the preferred method and I might use it someday, but it seems very sad.
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Old 03-06-2008, 10:13 AM   #5
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she has calmed down ALOT shes just sleeping now... but I have heard and read that it is the best way to potty train... she is AWESOME at night she hasnt had a problem with nights its just during the day... I take her out to potty all the time but she still pees in the house... I play with her ALL the time!!! but yesterday I got to my wits end... no matter how long or how many times I took her out she would always come back in here and pee... how am I supposed to potty train her...???
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Old 03-06-2008, 10:52 AM   #6
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If she is crying till throwing up, its too much for her to handle. Did you clean all her previous pee spots with white vinegar/whatever commercial products for that purpose so that there is no smell to attract her back to it?
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she has calmed down ALOT shes just sleeping now... but I have heard and read that it is the best way to potty train... she is AWESOME at night she hasnt had a problem with nights its just during the day... I take her out to potty all the time but she still pees in the house... I play with her ALL the time!!! but yesterday I got to my wits end... no matter how long or how many times I took her out she would always come back in here and pee... how am I supposed to potty train her...???
well all i can suggest is going out every hour. WHen Layla peed or pooped outside... it was a HUGE HUGE party... treats and praise and everything. bring the treats out with you and make it immediate. And she should also go out after every play session every nap and every meal. When she is peeing inside or pooping.. pick her up and take her right outside... say AH really loud to stop her... you are SO lucky she is good at night! Layla and i were up 3 times a night until she was 8-9 months keep at it mommy and dont' put her back in there
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Sammy is a drama queen with her crate. She sleeps in it by choice, with the door open, for most of the day. But oh my gosh put her in there when she doesn't want to be and it's a temper tantrum. Sometimes I put her in there and she just chills. Sometimes she throws a fit! (Oh and if she knows you are leaving and not taking her - watch out! But we've checked and as soon as there is no one to listen to her, she stops, imagine that!) It's improved a LOT since we first got her, but we just took it slowly and praised her when she was quiet. I would give it a few more days before completely giving up! Try giving her a stuffed Kong when she goes in there to keep her busy. Then she will learn the crate is a good thing!
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If she is crying till throwing up, its too much for her to handle. Did you clean all her previous pee spots with white vinegar/whatever commercial products for that purpose so that there is no smell to attract her back to it?
yes I did... I use natures miracle... Gracie wont pee if she is being held... but Im not getting ANYTHING done... so I need to be able to put her done.. but she pees or poops... I just have gotten so sick of not being able to do anything... and my husband is getting mad that nothing is getting done so he has to do it... so Im up to here...
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When I got Roxie 5 week ago at 4 months she wasn't in the leasr trained. For 2 weeks I was too free with letting her run with the others thinking I was watching her close enough. Wrong. I would put her on the pads every 1/2 hour and she would look at me like Iwas nuts. i really thought she may have mental issues she just did not get it. So I decided to be tough, which is hard for me and whenever I can't watch her in the crate she goes. As soon as she comes out of the crate I put her on the pads. It took about 3 days until she finally got the idea. When she potties on the pad she gets a treat and she has free run of my room where me and the other dogs hang out or the house if I am not in my room for a couple hours. She finally is going to the pad on her own after 2 weeks and doing much better. She still has to be watched closely as she still has accidents but it is so much better. It is hard to do but sometimes you have to. She whines for a bit in there but settles down pretty good. Hang in there it will get better.
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I gave up on crate training! But I am a total softy! Addison and Brady have free roam of the house while I'm gone and we seldom have accidents. I have however lost some great shoes and books to the littel monsters!
We use Natures Miracle potty pads and they work wonderful. I still take them out when I am home, and I find that unless I am gone for a few hours they will hold it until I am home!
Good luck with what ever you decide.
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i too am not doing the crate training. i agree with ellie may... i got her to play with her and enjoy her and i know shed be miserable in the crate and i just wont get to enjoy being around ehr if she was in there.. it just seems mean. i take her to the pads when she gets up in the morning, after she naps, after a big play and after she eats and before bed... ive done this since day one... she caught on quickly and now only pees on the paper and we are working on the pooing. she sometimes goes by herself to poo on the pad and othertimes not.. but she is only 12 weeks now so i cant expect her to be perfect yet
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Don't give up on it, seriously. If this is what you want to do, there are ways to do it so she isnt getting so upset and you can get stuff done.

First, I dont think i would put her in their if you are in the room with her. Put her in another room first so she doenst see you and get so upset. If of course, you have things to do and can't watch her. And I would do it in short bursts first. 30 min/1 hour get some stuff done take her out praise her play with her for 15/30 min and then again get some stuff done.

Like others have said, take her out every hour. Take treats outside with you and as soon as she goes to the bathroom praise and treat!! She probably won't get it right away but very soon. Keep an eye on her in the house when out of the crate and keep her confined to the area you are in where you can see her the whole time. If you catch her in the act, a stern no works great. Obviously, theres nothing you can do after the fact. Just clean up and know that in about an hour take her out again.

Does she only have enough room to turn around and lay down in her crate? Any extra room and they will end up going in their crate anyway and it kinda defeats the purpose. I learned that lesson the hard way with my first dog.

When you aren't home or at night, she goes in the crate. I don't know if you have had her in her crate at night yet but if not it will be a little rough at first but within the week, she will learn. If you haven't PM me and I can give you tips for that also.
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This may sound silly but I watched the dog wisperer deal with this issue! He said to put the dog in and close the door for a few seconds the first time and then let them out and pet them. Then repeat this over and over slowly increasing the time in the crate. ( Like 5 min, 15 min, 30 min, and so on)That way they know that you are coming back for them! He also said every now and then throw a short stay in there like after you get them out from an hour stay put them back in for only 5 minutes, he said it helps them to understand that they aren't always going to be left for a long period of time. It makes sense! Hope this helps!
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BTW I'm a sucker too.......my dogs have a room, not a crate! I just couldn't do it! But it isn't inhumane for those who do.... I think its just a personal choice! I do have one dog that I wish I would have done this with!!
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