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Old 03-04-2008, 08:43 AM   #1
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My baby was spayed yesterday and to make a very long story short, I am so upset with the vet and comments by the vet tech. People outside of YorkieTalk.com don’t seem to understand my frustration and need to vent.
First question – is it normal for the doctor to talk to us after surgery? I didn’t SEE him at ALL. We only saw the vet tech. I would have liked him to at least say hello, everything went well, etc. Second question – due to matting, they recommend that I shave all of her hair off and start over. She’s almost 6 months. I’m too upset to get into the details – yes we do comb and brush her daily. My question is – how long will it take the hair to grow back to at least a “puppy cut” if she is shaved down? Thanks!
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I don't really know about the second question except that there are products for detangling that I would try first.

As far as the doctor not talking to you, that can be normal. Ellie's vet talked to me after Ellie was spayed because she had to give me test results. I wouldn't be happy but I think it's normal.
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[F]I would be seriously upset too if the doc. didn't come in and talk to me after. People think we are crazy for treating our pups like humans, but they have feelings too and we care for them just as much

If you do comb the puppy then i def. wouldn't shave off all it's hair (although if it is anything like mine, the hair grows SUPER fast). I had my pups hair taken down to where it was approx. 1.5inches long, and he looked super cute

Like the person before me said, i would try detangling shampoo or a leave-in conditioner first.

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When we had our furbaby spayed, the doctor didn't come out. The vet tech talked to my husband (I was at work). I called and talked to the vet tho afterward to arrange for an overnight stay at a local ER hospital. Then I talked to the vet a couple of days later to get more pain meds since Pookie was still in pain.

As for shaving, I think I would go to a good groomer (get some recommendations if possible since groomers vary widely) and ask if a puppy cut would take care of the tangles. We have Pookie's hair cut in a puppy cut regularly since I tried the brushing route with her and still wound up with tangles. Everyone comments on how cute she is.
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Thanks for the responses so far. The vet tech told me “she’s well loved, but she is severely neglected when it comes to grooming.” My jaw hit the floor and I burst into tears as soon as I got in the car. Are you kidding me? The word neglected was way too much – she has no CLUE what goes on in my home. Do you know how much time I put into my baby – grooming, playing, etc.? And then I looked down at my groggy, helpless little baby and it ticked me off even more. Can you tell I’m still mad.
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Thanks for the responses so far. The vet tech told me “she’s well loved, but she is severely neglected when it comes to grooming.” My jaw hit the floor and I burst into tears as soon as I got in the car. Are you kidding me? The word neglected was way too much – she has no CLUE what goes on in my home. Do you know how much time I put into my baby – grooming, playing, etc.? And then I looked down at my groggy, helpless little baby and it ticked me off even more. Can you tell I’m still mad.
If a vet tech said that, I would be very mad. Can you report it to the vet?
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Cowboy Magic Detangler is great for working on mats, you can get it online or at some feed-tack stores. Many people have recommended it. Joey has a silky coat and rarely gets mats, but one day I noticed he had a sticker in his hair and a mat all around it. I was so grateful for the Cowboy Magic. I put it on the mat and used my thumb and forefinger to massage it. After several minutes, I could comb right through it. If your dog mats often, it's either because he has a cotton coat or wears clothes. I would try the Cowboy Magic before I shaved him and then you might want to get him a more manageable puppy cut.
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I’m at the point now where I’m thinking of switching vets. I haven’t decided if I’m going to say anything – I’m trying to get a clear head when I’m not so hurt and angry. I didn’t even sleep last night thinking about this.
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I am sorry about your terrible experience at the vets. Most vets will not take the time to talk to you when you go to pick up your dog unless there is something specific he feels he needs to talk to you about (health issues or further treatments needed). Most vets are very busy and with other patients so if they stopped every time someone came it to pick up a dog then it would be very disruptive to those that are there with scheduled appointments. Usually, if there is something very specific you need to know you can ask the vet tech and she will find out for you.

As for the grooming, please don't let that upset you too much. I don't think it was an appropriate thing for them to say. Some groomers are very picky people and if they see one mat or one flea they can just go on and on. Some puppies mat very easily and if the mats get down to the skin and are bad enough then you might need to shave your dog but if it is a few mats you can try to brush them out or gently nip them out with a small pair of scissors. I have learned the hard way that you can brush and brush but unless you go all the way to the skin they can still mat. That is why it is important to brush and use a comb but to make sure your are not just brushing the surface.

I hope your baby makes a speedy recovery.

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Cowboy Magic Detangler is great for working on mats, you can get it online or at some feed-tack stores. Many people have recommended it. Joey has a silky coat and rarely gets mats, but one day I noticed he had a sticker in his hair and a mat all around it. I was so grateful for the Cowboy Magic. I put it on the mat and used my thumb and forefinger to massage it. After several minutes, I could comb right through it. If your dog mats often, it's either because he has a cotton coat or wears clothes. I would try the Cowboy Magic before I shaved him and then you might want to get him a more manageable puppy cut.
You are exactly right – she has a thick cottony coat and of course she wears clothes. Thanks for your suggestion!
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If your Yorkie has "soft" hair it will tangle all the time. Anything will tangle it, collars, sweaters, walking around....you get the point. These mats can go clear to the skin and be very hard to remove. However, there is hope without shaving.

I put a towel on my lap in the evening while sitting with the family or watching TV. Put your baby on your lap and give some affection. Then with your fingers, locate the matts and work slowly with a metal comb (a brush won't do this much work). Start at the end of the tangle away from the skin and gently work the matt until you get close to the skin and can get all of it out.

Take breaks for affection, and work on a different area if your baby is getting too tired or upset.

Before you start, on the dry hair, rub Biosilk Silk Therapy into the hair. Rub it into each mat if necessary. Be patient, take your time. Then use a good quality shampoo and conditioner, with more Silk Therapy if necessary. I recommend the John Paul Pet products. You can also try your own Salon Quality Shampoo and Conditioner. Make sure it doesn't irritate your baby's skin -- and avoid getting any in the eyes.

Conditioner is crucial with this type of hair. Also, I always use the metal grooming comb before the bath to get out all tangles and mats. After shampooing and conditioning, I use a brush to fluff the hair while I dry it with a hair dryer.

I only have to do this about once a week now that we have our Bizzy Bee's coat in good condition. But she will always mat if I don't follow this regime.

One final note - this first time if there is a really bad mat at the skin, you could probably snip it out after doing your best to untangle it first. This usually doesn't ruin the whole coat, and it does grow back. This works especially well in the under arm and groin areas.

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Hi, maybe this will help... when Rusty was a baby he got mats 2 or 3 times a day and I combed him all the time! His hair seemed to mat all by itself. Now that he is much older, his hair is a dream and NEVER mats. The texture changed. The baby hair will mat on some types and the vet tech SHOULD have known that. It seems she/he knows nothing about Yorkies, so I wouldn't let what they said bother me too much.
Get a detangler and try using a different shampoo and conditioner. Most of all, just know that some Yorkies will mat and they do seem to grow out of that.

I used Fresh 'n Clean DETANGLER ( on myself alot too, it's fine)
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I had Bitsy spayed about a week ago, and the vet didn't come out to talk to mewhen I came to pick her up, but I think that's normal. I think if I asked specifically to speak to the vet, he would have came out, I just didn't see the need.

Prior to dropping Bitsy off to get spayed, I had her shaved down. The only thing that the groomer left is her head and she looks so funny! She has this teeny tiny body with this huge lion head.

I had no choice but to have her shaved, she was unbelievably matted We've been getting a lot of snow here in Toronto, and every time we went for a walk, Bitsy's underbelly would get wet, then she'd roll around and before I knew it, she was horribly matted. I tried my darndest to get the mats out, with tons of detangler. I decided it was kinder to have her shaved down and start all over again. The groomer said that because she has hair and not fur, her hair will grow back like normal. Bitsy has a thick cottony coat that grows really slowly and mats if you even LOOK at her.

I actually like her shaved down. She looks hilarious but is so unbelievably soft now. She's easier to bathe and keep clean and she smells a lot better. I think with the shave, I can probably go with bathing her every 3 or 4 weeks instead of every other week. She always wears clothes and I double layer her when we go out. She's 8 lbs, so she regulates her body temperature better than the tiny ones.

So if you do decide to shave your baby down, it's not that bad!
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Thanks for the responses so far. The vet tech told me “she’s well loved, but she is severely neglected when it comes to grooming.” My jaw hit the floor and I burst into tears as soon as I got in the car. Are you kidding me? The word neglected was way too much – she has no CLUE what goes on in my home. Do you know how much time I put into my baby – grooming, playing, etc.? And then I looked down at my groggy, helpless little baby and it ticked me off even more. Can you tell I’m still mad.
i would have said something to her. she has no right to say that!!!
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