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Old 04-02-2011, 06:59 AM   #76
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OP: Just in case you do decide that you want to reach out to a rescue, the only one I know of in TN that could handle this problem is Yorkshire Terrier National Rescue.

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It sounds like your dog is suffering and you are not doing all that you possibly can to get the very best diagnosis and treatment due to finances. That being the case, do the responsible thing for your little dog and get the baby to rescue and proper treatment. It sounds like you love him and want him to get well. Look at it through your little dog's eyes. If you were him, wouldn't you want the very best of diagnosis and treatment possible, no matter the cost? No matter how much you love the dog, you have to put its health before your love and let it have its best chance at life. The rescue people can get him the diagnosis and care needed and though it will hurt, you will be happier knowing you did the best you could for your baby.
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OP: I'm very sorry about your Yorkie.

What drugs/supplements/herbs is he on? The improvement could be explained if the regular vet or neuro gave certain drugs.

Food allergies don't cause neurological conditions. It is also impossible to accurate diagnose them without an elimination diet that takes many weeks. It sounds as though this holistic vet is going against the peer reviewed and accepted veterinary literature and has instead decided to do their own thing. Your pup needs to be under the care of a neurologist, not somebody who wants to guess at what is wrong and try questionable treatments that don't have any solid backing.

Please don't let him jump up or down. He should be crated if you can't be with him. It's just too dangerous.
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If the OP doesn't have funds for the needed testing and treatment, the ONLY way the pup is going to get better is if she surrenders to rescue. That's what happened with Katie. Her original owner could not afford to treat her UTI which turned to crystals, then bladderstones, in turn could not afford her surgery. When I picked up Katie, we got her to the vet the very next day to begin her healing process. Her owner did neglect her while she had her, but in the end she did what was best for her dog, bc she loved Katie enough to realize she could not take care of her anymore, and let her go. Katie is know a very healthy, happy, well taken care of yorkie, who would have otherwise died from a very painful and slow death.
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OP: I'm very sorry about your Yorkie.

What drugs/supplements/herbs is he on? The improvement could be explained if the regular vet or neuro gave certain drugs.

Food allergies don't cause neurological conditions. It is also impossible to accurate diagnose them without an elimination diet that takes many weeks. It sounds as though this holistic vet is going against the peer reviewed and accepted veterinary literature and has instead decided to do their own thing. Your pup needs to be under the care of a neurologist, not somebody who wants to guess at what is wrong and try questionable treatments that don't have any solid backing.

Please don't let him jump up or down. He should be crated if you can't be with him. It's just too dangerous.
I'm going to have to agree. Although I'm so happy that Polo came home and you got to see him, because I know you've been hurting, I don't think simply allergies are the real problem. Allergies, in dog and even human world, don't cause neurological problems (i.e. lack of balance, confusion, etc.).

I think you need to get him this MRI. I know it may seem like he's doing better and I know that seems like a big improvement, but it may simply be temporary. Especially if he just came home and just has a jump in his step so-to-speak because he's not at a vet anymore.

Please don't take anything that we're saying as mean or rude, however, I know how it is with dogs that it may seem that they're doing "better" but you know deep down that you haven't tackled the real obstacle yet. And feeling and knowing that does not make you a bad mommy, it's simply very hard to accept the fact sometimes that your pet may have a serious illness.

I have gone through this with one of my Carin's. So please, save yourself some heartache and try to get an MRI as soon as possible.

Thoughts and prayers are with you.
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we have had some of the same things happen with our little guy his name is Keeper he just hit 8 months on april 1 2011 and is 2.2lbs we have had all the bile tests done liver, kidney and they are all good. we are going to a nero vet in vancouver this week for MRI he has a hard time standing on his back legs he walks like he is drunk,his head tilts sideways sometimes and he has fits of rage at weird times. also he fontnal is still open on the top of his head .our vet thinks that it may be Hydrocephalus .everything we have been reading is leading us that way but are hopeing that they are wrong .i will up date when i have more info .positive thoughts coming your way
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and we never leave this little guy unless he is in a soft exercise pen where he cant fall or bang his head as it could be fatal for him
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Update: Sorry this update took so long have been very busy with Polo now home I picked Polo up from the Neurologist Wensday and he seemed to notice me he was squealing like he wanted me to hold him. They said that his rolling and flipping has gotten better the main reason I keep him there was because of the constant rolling. The Neurologist did not seem very hopeful of Polo. I knew she wanted to do the MRI but she was almost it seemed giving up on him. I am a believer in Christ and I know Miracles can happen with prayer. We went to a Holistic vet on wensday because I have heard really good things about the Holistic vet. Well it was very interesting going there but they told me Polo is allergic to chicken and herring fish, which is in Orijen and Acana what he eats. And also for a month or so he has been eating chicken they said no More Chicken or Orijen or Acana
so they told me to try Ziwi peak Lamb it was $25 for a 2.2lb bag but he really likes it. Anyways they gave him a ton of natural medicine and he has been doing really. Well yesterday I went to get the Mail and left him in his bed on top of the bed upstairs well I came back and he was on the floor walking around still kind of unbalanced. But he had to have jumped off of the bed I was amazed almost in tears. He has been getting better everyday it seems. Today the doorbell rang and he was in his kennel well he got out of his kennel and growled once and went to the door fell over a couple of times but he seems very aware of what is going on around him. Also not very long ago today I took him outside to go potty with out a leash, he walked from my backyard all the way to the neighbors front yard with out falling. When he got there he was tired you could tell he just laid in the front yard but wow again I was amazed. Is he 100% better no he still falls and sometimes will start rolling and can't stop himself but too see this improvement in a couple of days is really amazing
ok wait a minute.... Polo has severe neurological symptoms and a Neurologist (who is most likely board certified and is an expert in the field) told you he should have an MRI done to help with the diagnosis, right? You claim you don't have the money for that. But you DO have the money to go to a holistic vet who then tells you Polo has food allergies and sells you expensive food and a "ton" of medicine and supplements? ummmm, HELLO??? That money could have been used to help pay for an MRI... I've been to a holistic vet and know the products they try to push. They are not cheap. Also how does this vet determine Polo has allergies to chicken and herring in just one visit? Allergy determination requires a blood test not a physical exam. I'm surprised this vet can look at your neurological dog and say he is specifically allergic to not only chicken, but herring as well.

Also you should NOT leave a dog showing neurological symptoms alone without the dog being contained. And NEVER leave him on any type of furniture that he can jump/fall off of. You're lucky he didn't break a leg or hit his head causing further damage. Even walking or running around can be harmful to him. If you have wooden floors he can hit his head when he falls down or rolls around or he can walk/fall into furniture. He should probably be on crate rest any way, or at least in an ex-pen to prevent too much activity since you don't know exactly what is wrong with him.

Please apply for care credit and get this pup the treatment he deserves. If you cannot afford it then surrender him to a rescue that can afford to treat him. Do what is best for him, not what is best for you.
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we have had some of the same things happen with our little guy his name is Keeper he just hit 8 months on april 1 2011 and is 2.2lbs we have had all the bile tests done liver, kidney and they are all good. we are going to a nero vet in vancouver this week for MRI he has a hard time standing on his back legs he walks like he is drunk,his head tilts sideways sometimes and he has fits of rage at weird times. also he fontnal is still open on the top of his head .our vet thinks that it may be Hydrocephalus .everything we have been reading is leading us that way but are hopeing that they are wrong .i will up date when i have more info .positive thoughts coming your way

Morgan you may want to start your own thread, so we can follow wee Keeper's progress and help support you if need be.

I love the name Keeper. I do so hope your breeder is supporting you through this worrisome time.

Best wishes for the neuro appt.... Let us know
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and we never leave this little guy unless he is in a soft exercise pen where he cant fall or bang his head as it could be fatal for him
You sound like you are doing everything right for this baby. Keep us updated on his MRI. Good advise about the soft xpen.
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ok wait a minute.... Polo has severe neurological symptoms and a Neurologist (who is most likely board certified and is an expert in the field) told you he should have an MRI done to help with the diagnosis, right? You claim you don't have the money for that. But you DO have the money to go to a holistic vet who then tells you Polo has food allergies and sells you expensive food and a "ton" of medicine and supplements? ummmm, HELLO??? That money could have been used to help pay for an MRI... I've been to a holistic vet and know the products they try to push. They are not cheap. Also how does this vet determine Polo has allergies to chicken and herring in just one visit? Allergy determination requires a blood test not a physical exam. I'm surprised this vet can look at your neurological dog and say he is specifically allergic to not only chicken, but herring as well.

Also you should NOT leave a dog showing neurological symptoms alone without the dog being contained. And NEVER leave him on any type of furniture that he can jump/fall off of. You're lucky he didn't break a leg or hit his head causing further damage. Even walking or running around can be harmful to him. If you have wooden floors he can hit his head when he falls down or rolls around or he can walk/fall into furniture. He should probably be on crate rest any way, or at least in an ex-pen to prevent too much activity since you don't know exactly what is wrong with him.

Please apply for care credit and get this pup the treatment he deserves. If you cannot afford it then surrender him to a rescue that can afford to treat him. Do what is best for him, not what is best for you.

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ok wait a minute.... Polo has severe neurological symptoms and a Neurologist (who is most likely board certified and is an expert in the field) told you he should have an MRI done to help with the diagnosis, right? You claim you don't have the money for that. But you DO have the money to go to a holistic vet who then tells you Polo has food allergies and sells you expensive food and a "ton" of medicine and supplements? ummmm, HELLO??? That money could have been used to help pay for an MRI... I've been to a holistic vet and know the products they try to push. They are not cheap. Also how does this vet determine Polo has allergies to chicken and herring in just one visit? Allergy determination requires a blood test not a physical exam. I'm surprised this vet can look at your neurological dog and say he is specifically allergic to not only chicken, but herring as well.

Also you should NOT leave a dog showing neurological symptoms alone without the dog being contained. And NEVER leave him on any type of furniture that he can jump/fall off of. You're lucky he didn't break a leg or hit his head causing further damage. Even walking or running around can be harmful to him. If you have wooden floors he can hit his head when he falls down or rolls around or he can walk/fall into furniture. He should probably be on crate rest any way, or at least in an ex-pen to prevent too much activity since you don't know exactly what is wrong with him.

Please apply for care credit and get this pup the treatment he deserves. If you cannot afford it then surrender him to a rescue that can afford to treat him. Do what is best for him, not what is best for you.


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ok wait a minute.... Polo has severe neurological symptoms and a Neurologist (who is most likely board certified and is an expert in the field) told you he should have an MRI done to help with the diagnosis, right? You claim you don't have the money for that. But you DO have the money to go to a holistic vet who then tells you Polo has food allergies and sells you expensive food and a "ton" of medicine and supplements? ummmm, HELLO??? That money could have been used to help pay for an MRI... I've been to a holistic vet and know the products they try to push. They are not cheap. Also how does this vet determine Polo has allergies to chicken and herring in just one visit? Allergy determination requires a blood test not a physical exam. I'm surprised this vet can look at your neurological dog and say he is specifically allergic to not only chicken, but herring as well.

Also you should NOT leave a dog showing neurological symptoms alone without the dog being contained. And NEVER leave him on any type of furniture that he can jump/fall off of. You're lucky he didn't break a leg or hit his head causing further damage. Even walking or running around can be harmful to him. If you have wooden floors he can hit his head when he falls down or rolls around or he can walk/fall into furniture. He should probably be on crate rest any way, or at least in an ex-pen to prevent too much activity since you don't know exactly what is wrong with him.

Please apply for care credit and get this pup the treatment he deserves. If you cannot afford it then surrender him to a rescue that can afford to treat him. Do what is best for him, not what is best for you.


If you want the best for Polo, PLEASE get the MRI asap. Going in any other direction, at this fragile point, seems very dangerous.

Allergies do not cause the neurological issues you've described.

Polo should not be jumping off beds, left to roam around, left on furniture etcetera -- can you see why this would all be dangerous to his life?
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I have gone to a vet who combines Eastern and Western medicine for fifteen years, and I'm not opposed to holistic treatments. Polo's symptoms are acute, and none of these symptoms can be caused by food allergies. A food elimination diet is the only way to tell about food allergies since bloodwork is not reliable to determine them. One of our little ones had severe allergies, and I have a lot of experience with them. Polo needs to be treated by someone who specializes in neurological issues, and he needs a proper diagnosis before you can determine a treatment plan. It just doesn't seem like the holistic vet you are seeing is going to help Polo at all, and he needs treatment now.
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