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Old 11-30-2009, 08:57 AM   #1
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Cry Please help advice?- dog surrendered to hospitaldue to high cost of vet medical bill

My dog was diagnosed with pancreatitis on 11/19 and was treated at Banfield hospital in Secaucus, NJ, where i spend almost $700 that week; however on 11/25 she wasn't eating or drinking so i took her there; the vet said she's just spoiled and doesn’t like the food; so she force fed her the food with a syringe, gave her a b-complex shot and sent her home. Thanksgiving morning 11/26 around 5am she relapsed and started vomiting; the vet is closed so i knew that i had to cut water and food because of her condition and hoping that this will pass. However, she continued vomiting on and off, until she started vomiting blood. At that point i had to rush her to the ER animal emergency and referral associates in Fairfield, NJ , where she had been twice already in the past for similar episodes, but was never diagnosed. When i got there the vet told me she needs to stay at least 4 days in the hospital and the bill will be around $4000. Since i don't have that kind of money and my dog needed immediate medical help, i had no choice but to sign her out or surrender her to the hospital. I went back to the vet to tell them and request some of the money back, since it was their fault force-feeding her, knowing she has pancreatitis. No luck there. They said they did nothing wrong.
Then i went back to the ER in Fairfield to give them her vaccine history and some of her belongings. I begged and cried the vet if i can pay partial of the bill and take her home, she said they can't do that. I asked her if i was able to come up with that money by borrowing from friends and family, can my dog be cured and avoid these episodes. She said unfortunately they don't know what's wrong with her 100% and if this is genetic disease, it could happen unexpectedly. So i told her i can't pay the 4000 and then this can happen again. I will have no financial mean of taking care of her if she gets sick again. She said that i am doing what's best for the dog by leaving her there and someone from the hospital or their families will foster her or adopt her. That made me feel a bit better, but i asked her why can't i or my family adopt her. She said it doesn’t work that way. I guess it doesn’t; but how is that fair. A stranger will get my dog because i couldn’t afford $4000 but i can't get her back. How is that my fault? I have spent over $8000 on that dog and now i end up loosing her. I feel hopeless and helpless and i don't know what to do. I am heartbroken and devastated and i would like my dog back. Is there a way you or someone else can help me out, to figure out what to do to get my dog back? These are holiday’s time and my dog will be in a stranger’s house and i will be all alone. Also my dog is very sensitive dog and was attached to me dearly, and i know she will be depressed and possible will not eat in the new home. Please, i beg you help me out.
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Unfortunately I don't think you can do anything now that you signed your dog off to them. Did they give you any paper work to sign that you were giving up ownership? I really think since you surrendered her you can't get her back legally.

I already shared my similar story to you but in my situation my vet was very understanding of Stormy's attachment to me and he felt it was in her best interest to return to me. I know she was there for almost a month so I am sure if I was to pay the full bill of surgery, testing and boarding it would of been extremely expensive. I know for a stay at our hospital for a night is 250$.

The vet was very nice and I only paid 300$ to get her back. I spoke with him
before when I surrendered her and he knew how much we cared for her and he knew the history we had at the vets. Also he did say she was not bonding with anybody at the clinic and that she was very depressed so I think that is the reason why i did get her back.

I would go and speak with them again but it really seems like you can't do much more then that. GOod luck
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You signed over legal ownership of your dog; you didn’t lose her, you gave her up. There is a difference here. As you said yourself, if she gets sick again you will have no financial means to take care of her so it seems the vet was right in saying this probably was the best decision for the dog’s health and well-being.
Most dogs are better at adapting to the change than their owners are. There are obvious exceptions (Stormy) but as a general rule dogs are highly adapatable.
It doesn’t work that you can adopt or foster the dog because you gave her away s that you wouldn’t have to pay the medical bills any more. If you they allowed owners that surrendered their dogs to adopt them back, then it’s free medical care – and how is that fair to the veterinarian, his staff, and other pet owners who pay full price? It’s fair that you don’t get her back, because now she gets the medical attention and care she needs.
I’m surprised that the vet wouldn’t work with you in the beginning on a bill that large. I’m sorry if this sounds harsh but dogs are a huge responsibility. I may well be alone in this, but I’d be at the pawn shop or trading in my car for a hooptie to save either of my boys’ lives, but pigs probably would be flying before I ever gave them up.
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I know you are hurting right now but I think you did the best thing for her. You even said if you got her back you woul;dnt be able to help her if she got sick again. She is getting the care she needs now and I would just let it go. I cant help you but did want to wish you the best
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I would give up anything I could too to keep my dog but if your dog had medical issues time and time again how many cars or things can you pawn? It's easy to say things when you aren't there. But I have been and I know how hard of a decision it is to LET go and do the unselfish thing. I am not trying to be rude but I know it is easier to say things then to do them and I just had no other options at the time after being at the vets so often.

I was however very very lucky in my situation that my vet did all that work and practically gave her back to me. But of course in the end she did pass away. So I would just say I do agree with you and the others and let her be where she is. I know my story didn't have a good ending and once a dog has medical issues like that all the time it is just best to let her go where a vet can adopt her and provide her with free health care.

sorry I meant to quote you 2dogsandachick
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You signed over legal ownership of your dog; you didn’t lose her, you gave her up. There is a difference here. As you said yourself, if she gets sick again you will have no financial means to take care of her so it seems the vet was right in saying this probably was the best decision for the dog’s health and well-being.
Most dogs are better at adapting to the change than their owners are. There are obvious exceptions (Stormy) but as a general rule dogs are highly adapatable.
It doesn’t work that you can adopt or foster the dog because you gave her away s that you wouldn’t have to pay the medical bills any more. If you they allowed owners that surrendered their dogs to adopt them back, then it’s free medical care – and how is that fair to the veterinarian, his staff, and other pet owners who pay full price? It’s fair that you don’t get her back, because now she gets the medical attention and care she needs.
I’m surprised that the vet wouldn’t work with you in the beginning on a bill that large. I’m sorry if this sounds harsh but dogs are a huge responsibility. I may well be alone in this, but I’d be at the pawn shop or trading in my car for a hooptie to save either of my boys’ lives, but pigs probably would be flying before I ever gave them up.
thanks for the reply; but you don't know the whole story
she had 3 previous attacks before in which i had exhausted my finance of more than $8000; without any diagnosis; had i known she has pancreatitis earlier i would have been treating her for that. however she was diagnosed with this disease last week and the vet still force fed her when she wasn't hungry. so no i didn't give her up just to give her up.
i gave her up out of love; because they refuse treatment without payment; so the next thing was to sign her out for the hospital.
so please don't judge me and tell me to sell my belonging; if it was up to me i will sell my organs; but we know that these attacks will occur throughout her life and then what; i will run out of belongings and organs.
i dind't know she has any type of genetic disease when i got her; and i tried my best providing for her for the past 2 years; but i am literarly broke and had no other choice.
so please keep your opinion to yourself.
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I am terribly sorry this happened to you and your pet.
I hope they truly can make her better and put her in a loving'
home so you can be a peace with yourself. Somehow what that
vet did, forced fed her, dosent' sit right with me. He sounds like
a nut case. Know in your heart you did all you could. This would
break my heart too.
I can't help but wonder how they came upon the amount of money
it would take to make her well when they don't even know what's wrong
with her without testing first!
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I would give up anything I could too to keep my dog but if your dog had medical issues time and time again how many cars or things can you pawn? It's easy to say things when you aren't there. But I have been and I know how hard of a decision it is to LET go and do the unselfish thing. I am not trying to be rude but I know it is easier to say things then to do them and I just had no other options at the time after being at the vets so often.

I was however very very lucky in my situation that my vet did all that work and practically gave her back to me. But of course in the end she did pass away. So I would just say I do agree with you and the others and let her be where she is. I know my story didn't have a good ending and once a dog has medical issues like that all the time it is just best to let her go where a vet can adopt her and provide her with free health care.

sorry I meant to quote you 2dogsandachick
thanks for your support; and you were really helpfull last week with the pms; i know i can't get her back but i really wanted to get as much advice as i can and i would like to shine some light on the Banfield vet that force fed; which triggered the relapse.
for those of you that have no heart and no word of support, then please don't share your opinion and advice here; it's not welcomed.
thanks all for your support.
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I am terribly sorry this happened to you and your pet.
I hope they truly can make her better and put her in a loving'
home so you can be a peace with yourself. Somehow what that
vet did, forced fed her, dosent' sit right with me. He sounds like
a nut case. Know in your heart you did all you could. This would
break my heart too.
I can't help but wonder how they came upon the amount of money
it would take to make her well when they don't even know what's wrong
with her without testing first!
she had been to the hospital twice before ; and each night she is there it costs around 1000; they said she needs to be there 3 to 4 days;
what bothers me is she was there twice already with similar symptoms and they released her with gastritis diagnosis. never mentioned anything about pancreatitis. this whole system is horrible.
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I wonder if you could transfer her to the regular Vet, the ER places are so much money.

Have you applied for Care Credit? Bc if I had already invested $8000 in my dog, I would want her back (plus I am sure you love and miss her)
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I'm so sorry that you are going through this. It does sound like you've made a tough decision, and I hope your baby gets better.

I think it's a crime for emergency vet centers to charge the outrageous rates they do.
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I am so sorry you had to give up your baby. I can certainly sympathize with you. No one buys a puppy expecting to spend 8000.00 on them. Most of us know you have to have some emergency money but not to many can come up with large amounts especially in this economy. When I got Cali she was sick every other week and with in 6 months had run up over 8,000.00 in vet bills. I was fortunate that I had taken insurance on her and though a lot was denied as preexisting or genetic they covered close to 3,000.00. I had also lost my job 6 months before but my parents helped me. Had I not had those circumstances who knows what would have happened. I really would pursue Banfield as they should have been able to diagnose her properly and treat her at a much lower cost. I would just keep going thru the chain of command until you get some one who may help you. I can imagine how awful you must feel. Hugs
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I'm so sorry this has happened to you. This is why many of us on here do not trust Banfield vets. They are very expensive, and try to get you to buy their insurance plans, then when something comes up, guess what, It's not covered. I don't trust them there. Also the few times I went there veterinary students saw us, not even a real dr. The dr just came in to tell me all the things that I should get/purchase that day. They didn't scan Uni, I had to remind them to.

Again, I'm sorry about what happened. But if you cannot afford to take care of her, I guess this is the best for her.
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thanks for your support.
i could have and would have been able to take care of her; if they had diagnosed her last year when she had her first episode; how was i supposed to know that she has pancreatitis; no one advised me of anything or of any special diet. but you are right; i should have used a private vet that i could trust instead of this corporate monsters. i will not give up quietly, i am contacting organization to tell people about banfield and to stay away from them; after obtaining ava's medical history i can clearly see that she was over vaccinated; they used to give her multiple vaccines together; and i see duplicated on the report; ava was my first dog and i didn't know any better; but this taught me a valuable lesson for the future; i believe vaccinations exagerated her condition.
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