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Nancy1999 · 03-31-2011, 05:50 PM

Wow 15 vets say she'll be fine, how do they know without doing x-rays? Please listen to Mardelin, she knows more than those vets do about whelping yorkies, and find a vet who is a repo-specialist. The vet at Pet Smart sounds like an idiot, what if she needs a cesarean? Best of luck!

Buster Brown · 03-31-2011, 05:52 PM

Buster had to have anesthesia for his hernia surgery and neutering when he was only 2 months old and 2 lbs. He then also had to be put under for his baby canine teeth to be removed at 8 months and LP surgery at 15 months. So while anesthesia is serious business so is whelping. I am sorry you and Bee are having to go through this. I would consult with a vet who is more experienced with smaller breeds.

Furbaby Friend · 03-31-2011, 05:55 PM

I would get another opinion... I really wouldn't trust a Petsmart vet for breeding/litter advice. I would trust Mary waaaaaaaaaaaaaay before a Petsmart vet. She knows what she is doing.

A c-section is a real possibility and she would have to be put under anyway, plus all the extra risks that go along with the pregnancy... If it were my pup, I would be seeking another opinion and getting her spayed now.

RachelandSadie · 03-31-2011, 05:56 PM

i agree with most of the others i would find a vet willing to do an emergency spay and at least protect little Bee from having to try and whelp pups that big. i would sure hate for anything to happen to her little self and it could be very very life threatening for her. a spay is MUCH MUCH safer IMHO.

good luck and please do not beat yourself up for this matter. you didn't know and you wouldn't have done this on purpose we know that. go find you a good vet that is okay with spaying her now before the pups grow too big to have it done. she'll do fine in the spay don't let the risks scare you out of it. the risks of whelp far outweigh the spay. my pup was only about 3lbs when she was spayed and did just fine. i've seen them spay as little as a pound dog in our pet hospital and it woke up like nothing ever happened.

good luck sweetie!! we love you and hope it all goes ok. let us know what you find out and decide.

Buster Brown · 03-31-2011, 05:59 PM

Hi Lauren here are some links for reproductive vets in Ohio
http://www.whelpwise.com/testing/veterinarian-links.html
http://www.northviewvet.com/
http://www.caillouxcavaliers.com/repro.htm
http://vet.osu.edu/vmc/theriogenology-and-reproductive-medicine-service
Google link http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=reproductive+vets+ohio&aq =f&aqi=&aql=&oq=

Nancy1999 · 03-31-2011, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Buster Brown

Hi Lauren here are some links for reproductive vets in Ohio
http://www.whelpwise.com/testing/veterinarian-links.html
http://www.northviewvet.com/
http://www.caillouxcavaliers.com/repro.htm
http://vet.osu.edu/vmc/theriogenology-and-reproductive-medicine-service
Google link http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=reproductive+vets+ohio&aq =f&aqi=&aql=&oq=

How thoughtful of you!

Bitsy · 03-31-2011, 06:08 PM

My Peyton is right now at the vet hospital because he hurt his leg. He hurt his leg because I made a very stupid decision to place him on a chair, he is too young to know to sit still like Sophia knows. I totally beat myself up and felt so much guilt...still do.

On my thread someone said something that really struck home with me. It was Boopster who said, "Accidents happen to even the most careful people. It's how we respond to them that shows what we are made of."

That statement along with so many others has really comforted me.

We are here for you. I feel bad that you are so upset. Hang in there, we are here for you. {{{{{hugs}}}}} to you and Bee.

BabyGirl Rosie · 03-31-2011, 06:24 PM

Rosie was spayed and she is only 5 1/2 pounds. She did great! No problems at all. I was afraid to let her have babies. I know you must be torn on what to do. Hope you find the right answers soon!!

yorkietalkjilly · 04-01-2011, 06:54 AM

I finally got the courage to have my 3 lb. Yorkie spayed years back and she did great but I understand your worry about the anesthesia. If it were me, I would be even more worried about such a small female trying to carry and even whelp such potentially large puppies. What if she just had one very, very large one? I would get her to a reputable second vet for another opinion as to whether or not she isn't at great risk with this pregnancy.

cally930 · 04-01-2011, 07:16 AM

My little guy was 2.2 lbs when he was put under anesthesia. I was a nervous wreck till I saw him. He literally acted as though nothing had happened when I picked him up. I wouldn't worry too much about her being put under anesthesia and emergency spayed. Your dog can handle it! You really have to think real hard if you want her to go through whelping puppies that may be too big and chance losing her.

What I have learned on YT is that the breeders here...............know more than my vet about breeding and whelping these tiny dogs!!!

I know nothing about breeding, but listen to the breeders - they truly are experts!

FlDebra · 04-01-2011, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Mardelin

The vet you took your little girl has given you information that can put your dog at risk.....Yorkies themselves do not whelp litters without assistance, even when the breeding is ideal. I would see another vet, one that is well versed in reproduction/spaying. Putting your girl under anesthesia is a risk, however, allowing her to go through with this whelp is more dangerous.....

I don't know how old your girl is.....if she is young her reproductive organs have not developed....these pups may very well be too large for her to pass vaginally.....a c-section will be in order, very expensive.....will she be able to produce enough milk to feed oversized dogs????? So much to consider.

Accidents happen, but now it's up to you to do what your girl expects of you...take care of her, keep her safe.

I hate to put another wrench into this.....but you will not be producing pure-bred dogs....if you should decide to take the responsibility and I hope you have homes for the pups.

By the way.....boys can sire a litter as young as four months of age....

Think this over very carefully....you girl's life is at risk here and are you prepared to lose her and/or the litter.

The vet you asked gave you faulty information. If you just asked at the counter without an appointment, are you sure they really relayed your question to a vet or did a vet tech just throw out an opinion? Too many who have not been around Yorkies when they breed do not understand just how fragile they are!

5 pounds is not too small at all to spay! Probably at least half of the spayed yorkies here are 5 pounds or under! An emergency spay is the way to go -- but only with a vet experienced with toy breeds!

Teegy · 04-01-2011, 09:22 AM

I'd listen to Mardelin and I'd look into a termination and spay if I was worried

Wabbit · 04-09-2011, 06:16 PM

awww Lauren please don't beat yourself up about what happened....however any Vet that says its safe for a 5 lb yorkie to welp up to a 30 pound sire's babies is nutso!!!

Bee is in much more danger trying to have those babies than to get an emergency spay....C-sections are very very costly...and sounds like she would absolutely have to have one in order to deliver the pups...I'd definitely get a second opinion....And I would trust Mardelin's advice over any Pet smart employee's opinion.

Good luck and please let us know what you find out...and how you plan to proceed from here....Isn't Bee only a year old? She's so young.

You know we're here to help and support you...sometimes the best and safest decision for your baby is not always the easiest thing to do, but her life could seriously be put at risk if you allow her to continue with the pregnancy.

ArmaniMan · 04-09-2011, 06:27 PM

Any update on this thread- Have you decided to go through with the litter?

111lily222 · 04-09-2011, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ArmaniMan

I would really consider finding a vet who will spay NOW- with a father so big- Bee could very well die during birth, she will very likely end up having to have an emergency c-section- so she will probably be experiencing surgery either way. I would not trust the vets at petsmart to vaccinate my dog let alone make decisions regarding a litter.

03-31-2011, 05:50 PM	#16
Nancy1999 I ♥ Joey & Ralphie! Donating Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arizona Posts: 25,396 Blog Entries: 2	Wow 15 vets say she'll be fine, how do they know without doing x-rays? Please listen to Mardelin, she knows more than those vets do about whelping yorkies, and find a vet who is a repo-specialist. The vet at Pet Smart sounds like an idiot, what if she needs a cesarean? Best of luck! __________________ NancyJoey Proud members of the CrAzYcLuB and YAP! ** Just Say No to Puppymills – Join YAP! Yorkshire Terrier Club of America – Breeder Referrals

03-31-2011, 05:52 PM	#17
Buster Brown Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Toluca Lake, CA Posts: 5,491	Buster had to have anesthesia for his hernia surgery and neutering when he was only 2 months old and 2 lbs. He then also had to be put under for his baby canine teeth to be removed at 8 months and LP surgery at 15 months. So while anesthesia is serious business so is whelping. I am sorry you and Bee are having to go through this. I would consult with a vet who is more experienced with smaller breeds. __________________ CarolynBuster Brown "The happiest people don't have the best of everything, they just make the best of everything."

03-31-2011, 05:59 PM	#20
Buster Brown Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Toluca Lake, CA Posts: 5,491	Hi Lauren here are some links for reproductive vets in Ohio http://www.whelpwise.com/testing/veterinarian-links.html http://www.northviewvet.com/ http://www.caillouxcavaliers.com/repro.htm http://vet.osu.edu/vmc/theriogenology-and-reproductive-medicine-service Google link http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=reproductive+vets+ohio&aq =f&aqi=&aql=&oq= __________________ CarolynBuster Brown "The happiest people don't have the best of everything, they just make the best of everything."

03-31-2011, 06:08 PM	#22
Bitsy Ultimate Banner! Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: US Posts: 6,122	Just wanted to add... My Peyton is right now at the vet hospital because he hurt his leg. He hurt his leg because I made a very stupid decision to place him on a chair, he is too young to know to sit still like Sophia knows. I totally beat myself up and felt so much guilt...still do. On my thread someone said something that really struck home with me. It was Boopster who said, "Accidents happen to even the most careful people. It's how we respond to them that shows what we are made of." That statement along with so many others has really comforted me. We are here for you. I feel bad that you are so upset. Hang in there, we are here for you. {{{{{hugs}}}}} to you and Bee. __________________ Bitsy loves Sophia and Peyton Last edited by Bitsy; 03-31-2011 at 06:12 PM.

03-31-2011, 06:24 PM	#23
BabyGirl Rosie I ♥ my girls! Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: With My Yorkies Posts: 18,980	Rosie was spayed and she is only 5 1/2 pounds. She did great! No problems at all. I was afraid to let her have babies. I know you must be torn on what to do. Hope you find the right answers soon!! __________________ Momma to three sweet Yorkie girls Rosie Marie, Mikki Leigh , and Lily Mae Grace!

03-31-2011, 05:55 PM	#18
Furbaby Friend YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Buffalo, NY, United States Posts: 971	I would get another opinion... I really wouldn't trust a Petsmart vet for breeding/litter advice. I would trust Mary waaaaaaaaaaaaaay before a Petsmart vet. She knows what she is doing. A c-section is a real possibility and she would have to be put under anyway, plus all the extra risks that go along with the pregnancy... If it were my pup, I would be seeking another opinion and getting her spayed now.

03-31-2011, 05:56 PM	#19
RachelandSadie No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 5,748	i agree with most of the others i would find a vet willing to do an emergency spay and at least protect little Bee from having to try and whelp pups that big. i would sure hate for anything to happen to her little self and it could be very very life threatening for her. a spay is MUCH MUCH safer IMHO. good luck and please do not beat yourself up for this matter. you didn't know and you wouldn't have done this on purpose we know that. go find you a good vet that is okay with spaying her now before the pups grow too big to have it done. she'll do fine in the spay don't let the risks scare you out of it. the risks of whelp far outweigh the spay. my pup was only about 3lbs when she was spayed and did just fine. i've seen them spay as little as a pound dog in our pet hospital and it woke up like nothing ever happened. good luck sweetie!! we love you and hope it all goes ok. let us know what you find out and decide.

04-01-2011, 06:54 AM	#24
yorkietalkjilly ♥ Love My Tibbe! ♥ Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: D/FW, Texas Posts: 22,140	I finally got the courage to have my 3 lb. Yorkie spayed years back and she did great but I understand your worry about the anesthesia. If it were me, I would be even more worried about such a small female trying to carry and even whelp such potentially large puppies. What if she just had one very, very large one? I would get her to a reputable second vet for another opinion as to whether or not she isn't at great risk with this pregnancy. __________________ Jeanie and Tibbe One must do the best one can. You may get some marks for a very imperfect answer: you will certainly get none for leaving the question alone. C. S. Lewis

04-01-2011, 07:16 AM	#25
cally930 Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Mt. Sinai, New York Posts: 910	My little guy was 2.2 lbs when he was put under anesthesia. I was a nervous wreck till I saw him. He literally acted as though nothing had happened when I picked him up. I wouldn't worry too much about her being put under anesthesia and emergency spayed. Your dog can handle it! You really have to think real hard if you want her to go through whelping puppies that may be too big and chance losing her. What I have learned on YT is that the breeders here...............know more than my vet about breeding and whelping these tiny dogs!!! I know nothing about breeding, but listen to the breeders - they truly are experts! __________________ Cally Coco & Beckham

04-01-2011, 09:22 AM	#27
Teegy Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 2,631	I'd listen to Mardelin and I'd look into a termination and spay if I was worried

04-09-2011, 06:16 PM	#28
Wabbit Love my little flowers Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: In Gorgeous Montana!!! Posts: 4,499	awww Lauren please don't beat yourself up about what happened....however any Vet that says its safe for a 5 lb yorkie to welp up to a 30 pound sire's babies is nutso!!! Bee is in much more danger trying to have those babies than to get an emergency spay....C-sections are very very costly...and sounds like she would absolutely have to have one in order to deliver the pups...I'd definitely get a second opinion....And I would trust Mardelin's advice over any Pet smart employee's opinion. Good luck and please let us know what you find out...and how you plan to proceed from here....Isn't Bee only a year old? She's so young. You know we're here to help and support you...sometimes the best and safest decision for your baby is not always the easiest thing to do, but her life could seriously be put at risk if you allow her to continue with the pregnancy. __________________ Tam Flower babies: *Daizy Mae and Tulip Petals* RIP Honey Rose & Jasmine

04-09-2011, 06:27 PM	#29
ArmaniMan I ♥ Armani & Chloe Donating Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 3,895	Any update on this thread- Have you decided to go through with the litter? __________________ Armani & Chloe