I am the worst mom ever

[BeyonceMomma23]

Originally Posted by DvlshAngel985

I'm honestly sorry you feel that way. In my opinion, you received honest responses. It sounds horrible to have your possibly pregnant pup spayed, I know it does. Are you really going to ignore the suggestions of seasoned breeders? Forget what other pet owners think, or what he forum thinks. My suggestion to you is go find a reputable breeder, one that breeds and shows yorkies that is local to you. Talk to them about your situation and ask them why they think the way they do. Remember that this situation is so not about you, it is entirely about Bee. This was Bee's first heat, meaning she is not physically or mentally prepared to be a mother.

I never asked for it to be about me, but I asked for support towards me by making this decision. & I never said this was her first heat because it is her second. I am not asking for anyone to sugar coat their opinions, but I am asking for niceness & support which I didnt feel from many people throughout this whole thing. Which is ridiculous, because even when I thought people we wrong I made 100% sure they knew I was here for them TOTALLY & stated what I thought in a nice & supportive way.

Thanks,
Lauren

[BeyonceMomma23]

Originally Posted by MyLilyRose

Hey Lauren- I am sorry you are upset..you shouldn't have to feel that way after what has already happened. You have my support 100%. You were one of the first people to contact me when I first joined the site..You said that if I needed anything then I could always come to you. So I feel like that should be reciprocated. I am here if you need anything.

I hope you and Bee are doing well.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I felt like you were saying "I wish we could get an update" in a mean way & laughing with others. When I am honestly upset about this, I have barley eaten in 2 weeks since this happened & I have been so sick to my stomach I havent been able to even leave my house not even for work. Everyone most likely thinks I dont care about Bee which isnt the thing, because I wouldnt be so upset that I have lose 10 pounds in 2 weeks if I wasnt

I have called reproductive vets & breeders, all saying that she will be fine 99.9% likely, as long as I get an xray the week before she is due to make sure all the puppies are small enough. As of right now I dont 100% positively know what I am doing, but I am thinking about letting her go on with her pregnancy, because she will be fine, they ALL said. "toy reproductive vets" said she would be. I am not for sure yet. But I dont know why I would "get rid" of something that could be BEAUTIFUL & I will get her spayed afterwards either way. I dont know. I just feel so alone when YT usually made me feel like I had millions of supporters ALWAYS even if it wasnt about Bee.
Thanks,
Lauren

[DvlshAngel985]

Originally Posted by BeyonceMomma23

I never asked for it to be about me, but I asked for support towards me by making this decision. & I never said this was her first heat because it is her second. I am not asking for anyone to sugar coat their opinions, but I am asking for niceness & support which I didnt feel from many people throughout this whole thing. Which is ridiculous, because even when I thought people we wrong I made 100% sure they knew I was here for them TOTALLY & stated what I thought in a nice & supportive way.

Thanks,
Lauren

My mistake. I thought I read one of your threads where you didn't understand Bee's behavior. I guess I just assumed that meant it was her first heat. That's my mistake. If you're really unsure of what to do, I still suggest having a reputable breeder analyze your situation. She can tell you if Bee can safely carry and whelp a litter. I think an experienced breeder has more knowledge on this topic. Asking a vet about breeding and shelling is like asking a general practitioner about any specialty, they're just not well versed I that topic.

[DvlshAngel985]

Sorry! Double post. Sometimes I hate my iPod.

[BeyonceMomma23]

Originally Posted by DvlshAngel985

My mistake. I thought I read one of your threads where you didn't understand Bee's behavior. I guess I just assumed that meant it was her first heat. That's my mistake. If you're really unsure of what to do, I still suggest having a reputable breeder analyze your situation. She can tell you if Bee can safely carry and whelp a litter. I think an experienced breeder has more knowledge on this topic. Asking a vet about breeding and shelling is like asking a general practitioner about any specialty, they're just not well versed I that topic.

I did post that, because she didnt act that way before her first heat. so I am sorry if that confused you.
Also I called "toy reproductive vets" who would know about that I would assume VERY MUCH. I understand everyones concern, but they should be concerned in a nice supportive way.

[Bitsy]

Thank you for updating us. It's a horrible decision to have to make. I can really understand that.

I'll pray for God to help give you discernment so you can make the best choice.

Give hugs to sweet Bee from Peyton and Sophia.

[BeyonceMomma23]

Originally Posted by Bitsy

Thank you for updating us. It's a horrible decision to have to make. I can really understand that.

I'll pray for God to help give you discernment so you can make the best choice.

Give hugs to sweet Bee from Peyton and Sophia.

Thank you Bitsy

[MyLilyRose]

Originally Posted by BeyonceMomma23

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I felt like you were saying "I wish we could get an update" in a mean way & laughing with others. When I am honestly upset about this, I have barley eaten in 2 weeks since this happened & I have been so sick to my stomach I havent been able to even leave my house not even for work. Everyone most likely thinks I dont care about Bee which isnt the thing, because I wouldnt be so upset that I have lose 10 pounds in 2 weeks if I wasnt

I have called reproductive vets & breeders, all saying that she will be fine 99.9% likely, as long as I get an xray the week before she is due to make sure all the puppies are small enough. As of right now I dont 100% positively know what I am doing, but I am thinking about letting her go on with her pregnancy, because she will be fine, they ALL said. "toy reproductive vets" said she would be. I am not for sure yet. But I dont know why I would "get rid" of something that could be BEAUTIFUL & I will get her spayed afterwards either way. I dont know. I just feel so alone when YT usually made me feel like I had millions of supporters ALWAYS even if it wasnt about Bee.
Thanks,
Lauren

I'm sorry. I didn't mean to make you think I was laughing and stuff.
If you feel in your heart that that is what is best for you little girl then go with it. Only you know what is best for her..you're her mommy and always will be. Nothing anyone on here says could ever change that!

[lovespandp]

I know you must be upset about what happened, but as a pet owner it is your duty to make sure Bee is safe, do you think she will be? I have re-read your post, I do not see anyone being mean to you, i see alot of people very concerned and worried.

Good luck with what you decide, I hope you make the best choice for Bee's health.

[BeyonceMomma23]

Originally Posted by MyLilyRose

I'm sorry. I didn't mean to make you think I was laughing and stuff.
If you feel in your heart that that is what is best for you little girl then go with it. Only you know what is best for her..you're her mommy and always will be. Nothing anyone on here says could ever change that!

The thing that bothers me the most is the way peopple responded, I would never post something that would make another YT member cry & feel horrible & just wanna give up, even if I totally disagreed. I would show support & give my opinion in a nice way but tell them I still suppport.
I just wish I got the same

[yorkietalkjilly]

I would be petrified if my 5 lb. female were pregnant with the pup/puppies of a 15 lb. male and would have no choice to make but immediate spay, no matter how many vet's offices told me differently. That defies credulity. I cannot understand why a vet would tell you that when everything I have always read about breeding says to breed the female with a male of like or preferably smaller size - not one 150% larger!

Have you ever read in any of the breeding literature that 150% larger sire is safe for the dam? Can you understand why people reading about this little female in this potentially dire situation might be incredibly distressed about all this and are petrified for this girl? I read about things like this and cry. I see stories on TV about neglect and abuse and get sick to my stomach. You have involved all of us in this girl's life by your posts. Don't our feelings count at all? Is it just all about you?

[Bitsy]

Here's the thing Lauren....unfortunately on-line forums are not going to be that. You are going to get all sort of responses. Some are nice, some are rude, some just SEEM mean because it might not be what we want to hear.

It can be really hard to ignore the posts you don't like, and even harder to ignore ones that hit home.

I KNOW you are going to get tons of responses to this. Some may come across very hurtful to you. I really believe that most will have the best of intentions for you and Bee

If you don't think you are up to hearing all the responses, I would ask admin to close the thread. Then you can email and pm with those you feel closest too.

I have already prayed and will continue to.

[BeyonceMomma23]

Originally Posted by lovespandp

I know you must be upset about what happened, but as a pet owner it is your duty to make sure Bee is safe, do you think she will be? I have re-read your post, I do not see anyone being mean to you, i see alot of people very concerned and worried.

Good luck with what you decide, I hope you make the best choice for Bee's health.

I would never make a choice that would put her at risk. End of story.
& others see it, it isnt just me who sees it. I had people PM me to make sure I was fine after the way people talked to me

[QuickSilver]

I do think a few of the posts were out of line.

With that being said: this is a life or death situation for your girl. Please consider what the experienced breeders are telling you. It is not safe for your dog to have puppies when the father is three times her size. Please consider the extremely high chance that she will have to have an expensive and dangerous c-section when the time comes.

Please also consider that if you bring puppies into the world, you are responsible for them. Are you confident you will be able to adopt the pups out? How will you ensure that they go to good homes? Will you require that they be s/n'd? There is an incredible dog overpopulation problem in this country. Unwanted dogs are PTS in shelters at staggering rates. Will you require that these puppies will be surrendered back to you?

[QuickSilver]

Originally Posted by yorkietalkjilly

I would be petrified if my 5 lb. female were pregnant with the pup/puppies of a 15 lb. male and would have no choice to make but immediate spay, no matter how many vet's offices told me differently. That defies credulity. I cannot understand why a vet would tell you that when everything I have always read about breeding says to breed the female with a male of like or preferably smaller size - not one 150% larger!

Have you ever read in any of the breeding literature that 150% larger sire is safe for the dam? Can you understand why people reading about this little female in this potentially dire situation might be incredibly distressed about all this and are petrified for this girl? I read about things like this and cry. I see stories on TV about neglect and abuse and get sick to my stomach. You have involved all of us in this girl's life by your posts. Don't our feelings count at all? Is it just all about you?

The father is not 150% bigger. He is 300% bigger.