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04-25-2010, 04:16 AM | #1 |
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| Roriee (AAI puppy) has had a major relapse! I haven’t posted in awhile because Roriee has been doing so well.. she has AAI and we have been living with it since last Nov 09. she has done extremely well until today.. she has had a relapse and I am just making sure that she is very still and try not to move her at all... I have her meds and I have slowly been decreasing her dosage, because of the long term steroid usage is also bad…she also wears a collar all the time except today somehow she got her collar off, and I didn’t notice because she had on a black tee-shirt and her collar is home made and black also... my roommate was holding her and she started thrashing around and boom.. all of a sudden she yelped and john felt her head hit his arm hard. She is in total relapse and in extreme pain if she moves much. But with AAI its like she has 2 choices and I cannot get her the surgery until I have all the donations... I was even considering not having it at all... even her vet called her a miracle dog and that I brought her back with very good nursing and love. well this proves that is not enough. I am afraid that I might loose her this time... her eyes are not focused and when she tries to move she gets so panicked that she makes herself worse... I just now got her comfortable again and this time her tongue is sticking out a bit… I am scared but I am doing the same as the vet would do. her collar to stabilize. her meds increased and I syringe her pedisure every 2 hours and water every 1 hour… so if you have AAI, its very serious but if you can afford the surgery then the recovery is good…make sure you see a neurologist and one that is familiar with this condition.. my vet had never seen this before and because of this site she got diagnosed correctly… this time I know what to do so I sure hope that brings her back quicker then last time.. poor little thing…. She has been doing so well that if you didn’t notice the collar you wouldn’t know she had anything wrong with her! I make sure she doesn’t jump or go up and down stairs… I carry her most all the time but when we are home and I am walking around the house she follows me everywhere or she is in her pen…I cannot believe she lost her collar today… I had a spare and I grabbed it and the Velcro is better.. so I guess that is what has happened.. the Velcro just came loose and the collar came off.. now my baby is back in pain and I am worried…say prayer for her please! i reposted this since i hijacked another AAI pup's thread so I wanted to repost.. we made it through the night and honestly I did not think she would.. i thought she was leaving me several times but she has alot of will to not leave me... i have had my own illness to deal with so i am really in a bad way with her sick too... i have to have major sugery may 5th for colon cancer... they just found it running tests because i have been so sick the last few months.. she cant leave me!!! we have to heal together... she is my baby and my mom was going to stay with her since i have to be in the hospital 5 days... i planned on setting up skype so that i can see her while i am there.. we havent ever been apart that long and now i am not sure what to do.. she has to get better!!! but this time she is worse...she threw up and her eyes are not focused.... i have her meds and i know what to do since i nursed her last time .. since i already know her condition the only thing the vet can do is put her in a cage all alone unless i can get up enough money for surgery.. it was a desperate situation before but this time its worse, if that is even possible! honestly if i gave her up to a recsue she would get very depressed without me..and vice versa.... we are very attached... i wont get well without her and if she pulls through without surgery it would be because we are together... once you saw us together you all would agree.. my mother is the first to tell you that and she is also the first one to give up a animal if the situation was reversed.. she is my mom and i love her dearly but she doesnt feel the same way about animals that i do and everyone on this site does... anyway.. i am rambling now...its been a rough night but she is still with me...please please pray for my baby girl!!!
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04-25-2010, 04:28 AM | #2 |
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| Can the vet put a head/neck/upper body cast on her? I know BleuBoyBarber had one with his AAI for several months. That might be an alternative.....
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04-25-2010, 05:06 AM | #3 |
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| This puppy needs medical attention. I don't mean to sound harsh but if she has been like this since November and you do not have the money, why don't you surrender her to rescue so that she can get the care she needs? Sure it will be hard on you to do that...but, trust me she is so sick that missing you will not be first on her mind. It sounds like you have an awful lot going on in your life. I will pray for her...and for you.
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04-25-2010, 06:28 AM | #4 |
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| You sound like you love her dearly. Please show her the ultimate love and turn her over to rescue so she can have a chance at a normal pain free life. She doesn't deserve to be suffering in pain. This should be 100% about her now
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04-25-2010, 07:12 AM | #5 |
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| I am not sure that you nursing her right now is the best idea. She has AAI and she got hurt, you have NO idea how hurt she is, PLEASE bring her to the Neuro Specialist, she got hurt, she is in pain, and she needs to see a Vet immediately... Then you truly have to think long and hard for what is truly best for her...which may very well be, going into a Yorkie Rescue Program, where she will get 100% Vetted ASAP, so she can live a Healthy and Long Life... Please do some serious soul searching... |
04-25-2010, 07:47 AM | #6 |
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| Don't have any advice but just want to tell you that I am so sorry that both you and Roriee have such desperate medical needs. Prayers are being sent for both of you. ~Joanne~
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04-25-2010, 07:50 AM | #7 |
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| I'm sending prayers for little Roriee and for you. I can't imagine what a difficult decision you're facing right now. Please, get her the care she needs quickly. She shouldn't have to suffer in pain when she could be helped. {hugs}
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04-25-2010, 07:58 AM | #8 |
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| Randi, I have to agree with LadyJane. Roiree needs surgery and if you cannot afford it, the most compassionate thing you can do if you love her is to give her up so she can get the medical care she needs. As much as we may like to think our pets can't live without us, they adjust surprisingly well to new homes. Those of us who have rescues can attest to that. |
04-25-2010, 03:14 PM | #9 |
Senior Yorkie Talker | Hi. What is the update today? I think maybe you emailed me thru Ellie's youtube video? but i couldn't retrieve the message. First of all- my concern is with both you and your puppy. Both serious health situations. Although you love your baby so much- I also see where you need you need to be strong for your health surgery and recovery. I have to agree with several posts above- If you can have some one take her in during this difficult time- to care for her medical needs- then i would consider it. There are several excellent groups out there- and I personally recommend Cathy Cyr at YorkiesInc.com to offer advice. My Ellie has AAI- she is now out of the cast and doesn't wear a neck brace right now. As i understand it- the scar tissue and ligaments are what keep the discs/spine/neck in order. IF you feel like something dramatic happened to cause the scarring to break down totally than you have two choices- a Full body cast, or immediate surgery. You CANNOT delay this. She will not survive it. If she is yelping constantly (not occasionally)- then you may have a reinjury. If she is not able to walk with stability, she has a reinjury. A neck brace will not solve the problem. She must see a neurosurgeon and get an evaluation, a body cast, or surgery. Please do this for her. Or, please locate one of the many sources available to take care of her. Please know my words or sympathetic yet firm because your options are limited and time is not on your side. Please keep us posted. Yorkie Ellie's Journey
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04-25-2010, 03:23 PM | #10 |
Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: marietta, ga
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| i have been thinking and i want to give her until wednesday to see if she can recover without the surgery..as of now she is resting sooo much better and i know that she will slowly be out of pain and back to her sweet happy self.. I do have a few questions about giving her up to a rescue. how would i know for sure that she gets the surgery and a good recovery? how long would it take for her to have the surgery after i gave her up.? why is it that a rescue can help a dog but not a good loving owner who would give her as much or more love then a stranger? i own my home... i had a great job that i loved and because of the economy they closed their GA offices and laid off not only me but over 200 other hard working people. So I was not in this position when I got Roriee.. plus she was born in this house, and it is the only home she has ever known…I might have a lot of things going on in my life but Roriee is my number 1 priority. I will not hand her over unless I know for sure she will do better ,not worse.. I do feel like I came here for advice, but instead I feel like a teenage mother who is being convinced to give up her baby because she cant afford it…that isnt always the right solution. I do not understand why rescue services take a well loved pet, fix it, then give it up to strangers who have filled out a applicaton, had a couple of home checks to see if they are suitable to adopt. If I should harsh then I am sorry, but I have done very well with her until the relapse and I have never been one to make the same mistake 2x. I have now been diagnosed with stage 1 colon cancer and I was more worried about setting up skype so that I can see my baby then my own surgery. There has to be another solution.. . until this relapse i was going to follow olga’s advice and keep her on a good diet for her liver to not be elevated and to wear her collar, take a very low steriod dosage and not do a lot of jumping activity… older people have dogs all the time and they lead a more seditary lifestyle. I ha ve not decided what I am going to do yet but I know that if she has not improved a lot by Wednesday then I will call my vet for a good rescue recommendation who can answer all my questions and I have to know for sure that she will get her surgery…and I wouldn’t release her unless I knew for sure that she would get the surgery asap. I still want to find out if there are any options open to me now that I am also considered to be disabled.. although I would rather be healthy there might be more organizations who would help.. I would put off my surgery to make sure roriee was well and healed if I could get that kind of help for her.. I do have people who would help me with her recovery..they just don’t have money to help financially either.. its been a very rough year for a lot of people.. I am not a bad mommie to my baby…
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04-25-2010, 03:38 PM | #11 |
Senior Yorkie Talker | I am positive no one on here is implying you are a bad mother, at all! Like I have needed to do for the past several months- I have had to ask myself if I could give Ellie the best care. I work full time, have two other pets, and commitment to Ellie's health has totally turned all of our priorities on end. There were dozens of nights i didn't sleep at all because Ellie couldn't breathe well in her body cast etc. There is no question I love Ellie and feel like I must care for her. However- on the days I felt so week, I leaned on Cathy Cyr's knowledge and experience with the AAI pup she took in to care for "Posey"- who has since been rehomed. Placing our babies in the care of someone like them mean they have the lifestyle that fits the constant care the pups need- and they are organized to accept donations for vet and hospital and surgery care. That is why they are a great back up. I have no idea the policy if you would receive your puppy back. I have never read the contract policy. But you can look on their site- to simply know how it works. I promise you this- YorkiesInc and other groups like YorkieRescue are Angels on earth for our babies...truly gifted at what they do. I am not one to tell anyone what to do. However I can say from experience you need to really watch your baby with the signs I mention- this is what we learned when Ellie had to have her body cast removed early due to breathing problems. Our surgeon said- the Steriods should be used in a limited space of time then took her off(Prednisone, for us) She does have days she yelps occasionally and gets sore. that is ok. but if she yelps consistently or cannot walk steadily...then the injury has done the damage. Then must be in body cast. or must have surgery. Period. We are not out of the woods with Ellie, never will be. Have to protect her every single day. I know you have done a terrific job doing the same. Just watch the signs and you will give her the care she needs.
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04-25-2010, 03:41 PM | #12 |
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| If you do decide to surrender her to a rescue, you will be able to speak with them about the care she will receive. You should ask those questions before. Rescues are barely staying afloat without trying to pay everyone else's vet bills. You need to understand that while most rescues do take owner surrenders, they also take in pups from shelters; and they all need some vetting...some more than others. We do fund raising and much begging....we never break even on adoption fees. Right now, our group has a HUGE outstanding vet bill. We have to do in rescue what we do as owners...figure out how to get the money to care for the pups in our care. With rescues, we have a 501c3 that helps us to get donations that are tax deductible for our donors. As an owner, I would personally sell everything I own to care for my own. While I sympathize with you....I still think it behooves you to provide the care needed for your pupster. We sew...we set up booths...we network...the list goes on and on. It is not easy. I don't know how people think that we could also pay their vet bills...or anyone elses'. I have heard that before and I often think that surely that is coming from a person who has no clue what we do and what we spend. And why do we have to spend it....??? Mostly because of bad breeding...that is a pretty well known fact. You might want to go to GuideStar nonprofit reports and Forms 990 for donors, grantmakers and businesses and take a look at the vet bills that rescues have. Then think about how they could start taking care of all of the pets in the world in addition to the ones they have from shelters. Just not possible. And..we cannot pick and choose. Many people have sick pups and while it hurts me to see them have to surrender them, I am not about to pay for one and not the other. I am so sorry that you are in the position you are in. I will pray that things work out ok for you and your pup. As for placement....it is a whole lot more than turning them over to strangers who have completed an application and had a home visit. While I cannot speak for other rescues, I can tell you that NO pup leaves my home until I have found the right home for THAT PUP...and one that will give it everything it deserves. There is a lot more to placement than you are describing.
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04-25-2010, 03:44 PM | #13 |
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| No one is labeling you as a bad mommy. And, no way should you put off your surgery! Have you tried the organizations that help with vet expenses? Have you looked into Care Credit? I have a list of organizations that may or may not be the same as the sticky on this forum. If you want that list, PM your email to me and I will email it to you.
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04-26-2010, 02:22 PM | #14 |
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| I'm so sorry.... this pup should be seen immediately by a vet, better specialist. This is a very traumatic event, and with the description of his eye function or lack of, could indicate leakage of fluid into the skull, causing pressure on the brain or any nerves. The pressure can be relieved by means of a shunt (surgery). It is extremely important that this pup be evaluated ASAP! Praying for you both...
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04-26-2010, 02:25 PM | #15 |
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| The OP did email me and I sent her a list of orgs that might be able to help. I am hoping she has found something and maybe her pup is at the vet.
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