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01-01-2008, 10:47 PM | #1 |
Yorkie Talker Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Carson City, NV
Posts: 23
| Quick Help Needed Hi. My wife and I are in the process of buying a female Yorkie from a lady in Northern California, Deanna Pedley. She claims she gets the Yorkies from breeders and sells them for them - hoakie, I know. She sounds sincere and knowledgeable about the breed, but I'm getting more and more worried. I've sent a $200 paypal deposit that should clear tomorrow. We are getting a female pop with full AKC registration for $1575.00. Since I was nervous, I googled Deanna Pedley which led me to a "Yorkie Nursery" site. The first 2 pictures showed pups that were sold to Deanna Pedley of Northern California. The bottom of the google search thing showed a web address for Stringer Creek Kennels from Alabama. I thought these puppies were local but now I think Deanna got them from this place. Also, it's a place that raises 3 other breeds which further worries me. Does anyone have feedback on Deanna or on this Kennel. I think I'm going to back out of the deal. Help and advise is requested from you Yorkie vets. |
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01-01-2008, 10:56 PM | #2 |
Tinkerbell, My Little Flutterpup Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Beautiful California!
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| Welcome! She is what is called a broker. They quite often get puppies from disgusting puppy mills for very cheap and resell them. If I were you, i would not let that deposit go through and look for someone who has a good reputation or someone local to you that you can visit the home and see where your puppy is coming from. |
01-01-2008, 11:01 PM | #3 |
YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Fort Hood, Texas
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| She resells the poor puppies She is a broker.........run........get your money back if you can. They claim they dont sell to brokers, but this woman is one, I would give them a call.............You can get a nice yorkie from a reputable breeder for that kind of money you are paying. It's probably a puppymill
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01-01-2008, 11:03 PM | #4 |
Donating YT 10K Club Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: DFW, Texas
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| I would cancel your deposit fast before it goes through. You do not want to buy through a broker. Find a reputable breeder to purchase a puppy from
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01-01-2008, 11:11 PM | #5 |
Yorkie Talker Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Carson City, NV
Posts: 23
| This is so frustrating. I went to paypal and can't find a way to cancel the transaction. My bank has already released the money so I can't stop it there. I'll see if I can contact paypal by phone in the morning. Here's something interesting. I did a search from this site on Stringer Creek Kennels, and they got quite an edoresment from one of your big posters, a guy/gal with BAMA as part of their member name. I'm going to try and call Stringer Creek tomorrow as well. |
01-01-2008, 11:17 PM | #6 |
Tinkerbell, My Little Flutterpup Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Beautiful California!
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| Well, it could be that the kennel has no idea that this person is reselling their puppies. I have heard of people buying puppies in other states and reselling them here in CA because they go for 3 times more $. If you saw a good review on the kennel, then I would call the kennel and talk to the them about the situation. I have a feeling they will not be happy and you will have a puppy at a much cheaper price. Maybe you could pm Bama as well. Last edited by chloeandj; 01-01-2008 at 11:20 PM. |
01-01-2008, 11:30 PM | #7 | |
YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Fort Hood, Texas
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01-01-2008, 11:51 PM | #8 |
Yorkie Talker Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Carson City, NV
Posts: 23
| Thanks Chloe - I'll follow your advise. I PM'd BamaFan121 and I'll contact Stringer Creek in the morning (I've already e-mailed them). Stringer Creek advertises that they don't deal in Brokers - I'm curious to learn how much Deanna upped the price (her broker fee) and whether the pup comes with the full AKC registration as advertised (my biggest concern). We've been so anxious, looking forward to tomorrow when we get our Yorkie -Tine - my fingers are crossed because I don't want to cancel. Deanna has been super friendly and did tell us she was a "broker", at least in so many words. Maybe she's doing it in a more positive way - filling a need and using reputable breeders instead of puppy mills. I hope so. For folks like us, it's tough. We want a Yorkie, we want purebred, and for the money you have to spend to get one with full AKC registration from a "reputable" breeder, you're almost get forced to look elsewhere. Allow me to rant - and I know I hardly have a right to. My wife has cancer and stays home all day - alone. We recently saw a cancer patient at her Oncologist's Office with a Yorkie puppy and we agreed it would be a perfect companion for the 2 of us. So, we began to search. Imagine my surprise when I found mixed breed toy pups, with non-AKC certifications selling for hundreds of dollars! I researched as well as I could and was told to seek reputable breeders - but their prices were shocking if you want a pup with full AKC registration. So, someone like me is forced to look at backyard breeders. Oh well.....I'm going to get a Yorkie for me and my wife. I promise you, it'll be a puppy raised with with love and properly trained - I feel I can guarantee it'll be a happy puppy. I just think it's a shame that so many good and loving families are restricted from sharing in the best this breed has to offer because this once working class dog is now hard for the common person to afford. |
01-02-2008, 12:24 AM | #9 |
No Longer a Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada
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| I hope this lady follows through with the deal...she sounds awfully sneaky to me..are you going to be picking up this puppy in person? I have read so many scams here on YT and I really hope you arent getting tangled in one. My yorkies arent registered and didnt cost thousands but have tons of love to give and recieve...good luck with your new puppy and I hope it all works out for you and your wife..keep us posted.. Dawn |
01-02-2008, 12:32 AM | #10 | |
YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Fort Hood, Texas
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01-02-2008, 01:36 AM | #11 |
Yorkie Talker Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Carson City, NV
Posts: 23
| Thanks for all the good thoughts. I understand that the papers don't make the pet, but I guess I'm just too hard-headed to pay 100's of dollars for a dog with limited breeding rights. To answer your question - I hope to retire soon and I'd like the option to breed Yorkies when I do retire. I know I still have much to learn about the Yorkie breed through my own personal ownership. Clearly, I shouldn't make a decision about future breeding now if it's based only on what I have read. But if I'm going to spend this amount of money now, I want the option to breed my Yorkie in the future. The truth is, you can get all the dog-love in the world from a mixed breed, dog that costs nothing. For me, if I'm going to drastically up the price from a "free" dog to a purebreed dog, I want a little more bang for my buck. Value is in the eye of the beholder. If top-of-the-line show quality championships are important to you, $5000.00 makes sense for you. If it's important for someone to have a Purebred Yorkie as a pet, than paying 100's of dollars for the puppy is good value for you. For me, the value of a purebred is the combination of the type of dog you're looking for, and the option to breed that dog and register her pups with the AKC. I hope that makes sense. Anyway, I'm new to your Yorkie world and will do best to be quiet and learn from you Yorkie vets. I'm understandably exciteable about what tomorrow might bring and have a tendency to say too much. So please excuse my ramblings, thank you for your help and good night from Northen Nevada |
01-02-2008, 04:57 AM | #12 |
Donating YT 5000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: texas
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| First of all I want to welcome you to yt and wish you good luck with your yorkie dilemma. I have a wonderful registered yorkie and did pay hundreds but not thousands. He is a healthy, happy 4 year old. I was lucky. Good health you your wife for the new year and to you too. I know you are both so excited.....and I tend to ramble too
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01-02-2008, 05:13 AM | #13 |
Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: North Carolina
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| Please don't buy a puppy from a broker. They all come from puppy mills since reputable breeders care where their puppies go and would never let a third party place them in their new homes. Of course she sounds nice and sincere, that's how she makes her money. Please don't be put off by puppies being sold with limited breeding rights. Those puppies should go for more, not less as that is an indication that you are getting a puppy from a breeder who wants to protect the health and quality of her lines. You have a much better chance of getting a healthy puppy who looks and acts like a Yorkie supposed to from a breeder like that. I'd run away from this breeder even up you lose your $200. Buying a puppy mill puppy usually means big vets bills, not just in the beginning, but lifelong. They are prone to genetic problems that may not surface for years, but will be very costly. Did you know that Yorkies are 36 times more likely to have a liver shunt than all the other breeds combined? http://www.vet.utk.edu/clinical/sacs/shunt/faq.shtml It's essential that you buy a puppy from a breeder than does genetic and health screening on the dogs she is breeding or you could face thousands of dollars in vet bills to repair liver shunts or luxating patellas (knee surgery). |
01-02-2008, 05:22 AM | #14 |
Donating YT 10K Club Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Alabama
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| I just wanted to welcome to YorkieTalk. I sincerely hope that you get your puppy problem cleared up. Perhaps by talking to the YT member and the Kennel you will be able to resolve your problem, get your pup AND alert the breeder of the "broker". |
01-02-2008, 05:53 AM | #15 |
Lovin' 2 Girls Donating Member | Firstly, WELCOME to YT! IF you plan on breeding, please, please, please take time to chat with breeders on here. We have some great ethical breeders, who are more than happy to help. I know it's frustrating to wait a single day longer, when one's heart is aching to love one of these little bundles. But, there's so much more to breeding than just finding two 'papered' dogs and getting a tie. It can result in much heartache, and the early weeks are exhausting. It sounds as if you and your wife might not want to add any more stress to your lives at this time. Of course, this is jmo. My Abigail is reg AKC, and I wanted to breed her one time, so I could have her puppy; as we're not wealthy people, and I knew she would probably be my one shot for purchase. But, after reading that it's a possibility to loose one's pet in whelping, I decided it wasn't worth it and spayed.
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