Yorkie Male wanted in Illinois!

[gemy]

Originally Posted by WV~Yorkies

Now that sounds like a plan. They can live with me for a week..then me go live with them.

Well in a perfect world for me, potential buyers would come to live in my home for 3-4 days, where I could over time show them a whole lot in terms of grooming, training, showing how the adult dog looks and behaves, and answering the myriad of questions they would have.

Then I could return with them to their home, and help them set up for their pup, look at "risks" to the pup, help them on their first potty training in their own home, and so much more. I could help them shop for what they need to groom,wash, train, etc the pup. I could also help supervise their first bath with their pup and first nail trim and ear clean.

Despite my breeder knowing me for some years, and training(me) with our BRT;s, she took me shopping for Razz, I went over to her place to learn how to bathe and trim Razz up. Er um, cause he was so small, I had to have a couple of lessons there But still even today I ask her to "tip" his ears, I'm still not easy with that. Oh and before Razz came home, she went through my home (which she had been to before) to check to see if I had prepared enough for my pup. I had mostly done fine. I had to get a couple of more dog gates as my house is a whole lot of stairs, and that concerned her. She asked about sleeping arrangements and I showed his crate in our bedroom, the other crate in our garden room, and I explained when and how I would use them.

Now I know not everyone can do that. We are pretty close to each other geographically. But for me a new owner it was wonderful to have her so close and so involved.

[JeanieK]

Originally Posted by shodanusmc

Forget the newspaper route.....if you have to, wait for a YTCA breeder to have a litter and approve you. Would you buy a mate thru the paper?

Not all YTCA breeders are good breeders. That has been brought out in many many other threads. And not all NON YTCA breeders are bad breeders.

Would you choose a mate just by looking at the clubs they belong to?

[JeanieK]

Originally Posted by megansmomma

I thought I posted this last night but it was late and now I don't see it here today. My computer night have timed out I think.


You might be receiving PMs from YT members offering you puppies. My suggestion to you would be to make sure that you screen all offers very carefully. There are many members that only come to the forum to offer puppies for sale and that does not make them reputable. If you are looking for a well bred yorkie the YTCA is an excellent starting point in your search. Illinois has many members of this breed club and speaking from a fellow IL resident this is where I would start my search now that I know more about how to purchase a puppy. I can remember being in the same dilemma as you are checking newspaper ads and being very confused.

Although Breezeaway makes a valid point in saying that the YTCA does not endorse any of the breeders, this type of disclaimer is used for legal purposes in all aspects of business as I am sure you are aware.
Members have an obligation to hold themselves to a higher standard of breeding, many raise puppies for the show ring and look to better the breed. There is more to breeding than just putting 2 dogs together to make a puppy. Some of the things reputable breeders consider when deciding on a breeding would be to eliminate faults and breed a Yorkie that is recognized as what the breed should like regarding size, colors, good temperament etc.

The list with the YTCA gives you a nice launching pad of breeders that have been judged by their peers for the quality of their breeding program that produces puppies.

I think the YTCA membership is just like AKC registered. It gives people a false sense of security.

Just because someone belongs to the YTCA or has AKC registered dogs, does not mean they are good breeders or good people. Nor does being a show breeder mean that you stand behind your dogs or breed healthy dogs.

To the OP. Do your homework on the breeder, beyond looking at their credentials.

[megansmomma]

Originally Posted by JeanieK

Not all YTCA breeders are good breeders. That has been brought out in many many other threads. And not all NON YTCA breeders are bad breeders.

Would you choose a mate just by looking at the clubs they belong to?

There are some clubs that I personally would stay away from if I were chosing a mate..........ie strip clubs for a start

[shodanusmc]

Originally Posted by JeanieK

Not all YTCA breeders are good breeders. That has been brought out in many many other threads. And not all NON YTCA breeders are bad breeders.

Would you choose a mate just by looking at the clubs they belong to?

Thank you for your unbiased opinion. However, the odds are much better getting a good dog from a reputable breeder from a YTCA breeder than from a newspaper. Even my dear friend Breezeway would agree with that. Caveat Emptor to all, and to all a good morning!

Stick with the Best, research, and go for the standard.

[JeanieK]

Originally Posted by shodanusmc

Thank you for your unbiased opinion. However, the odds are much better getting a good dog from a reputable breeder from a YTCA breeder than from a newspaper. Even my dear friend Breezeway would agree with that. Caveat Emptor to all, and to all a good morning!

Stick with the Best, research, and go for the standard.

No I don't agree, the odds are not any better. The % of good and bad people is the same in any group of people.

There are the % of bad professionals are there are bad NON professionals, in any field.

Why do you think that people who choose not to show are less reputable?

I thouroughy agree, do your homework on the breeder. Do not assume that they are good or bad because of the club they belong to.

There are YTCA members that sell tinies for exhorbatant prices, they have large kennels, that breed more than one breed of dog, that breed dogs out of strandard, that breed dogs who carry genes with helath issues etc.

In another thread, one even tried to sell a tiny with an open font for $5000.

[JeanieK]

Originally Posted by megansmomma

There are some clubs that I personally would stay away from if I were chosing a mate..........ie strip clubs for a start

LOL Well there might even be some good marriage material in a strip club.

Some girls are just working their way through college.

[megansmomma]

To the OPer~maybe you would consider a rescue. All three of mine are and I love them to death and could be sweeter.

[gemy]

Originally Posted by JeanieK

I think the YTCA membership is just like AKC registered. It gives people a false sense of security.

Just because someone belongs to the YTCA or has AKC registered dogs, does not mean they are good breeders or good people. Nor does being a show breeder mean that you stand behind your dogs or breed healthy dogs.

To the OP. Do your homework on the breeder, beyond looking at their credentials.

I am so tired of the pot shots at YTCA and the AKC. No it doesn't mean if you belong to AKC or YTCA registered dogs that all is right in the world. Well actually no individual person belongs to the AKC,only breed clubs belong to the AKC.

BUT it doesn't mean all is NOT right in the world.

The breeder members of the YTCA are scrutinized prior membership, and agree to a code of conduct. Does that mean 100% will abide by it? Of course not. But probably the majority does.

It so damn easy to backhand those organizations that put out front their agenda(s). So easy to critique the shortcomings. So easy to find fault.

It is so easy, because they have a very public face. They show their ie post their ethics, their scruples, and they are watched, assessed, disparaged (on here it seems like at every turn).

I personally stand behind all those posters who say; "start at YTCA for a list of breeders" it is a good starting point. Then assess, rate, evaluate those breeders.

Are there other good breeders out there. Probably. But who knows who they are?

[megansmomma]

Originally Posted by gemy

I am so tired of the pot shots at YTCA and the AKC. No it doesn't mean if you belong to AKC or YTCA registered dogs that all is right in the world. Well actually no individual person belongs to the AKC,only breed clubs belong to the AKC.

BUT it doesn't mean all is NOT right in the world.

The breeder members of the YTCA are scrutinized prior membership, and agree to a code of conduct. Does that mean 100% will abide by it? Of course not. But probably the majority does.

It so damn easy to backhand those organizations that put out front their agenda(s). So easy to critique the shortcomings. So easy to find fault.

It is so easy, because they have a very public face. They show their ie post their ethics, their scruples, and they are watched, assessed, disparaged (on here it seems like at every turn).

I personally stand behind all those posters who say; "start at YTCA for a list of breeders" it is a good starting point. Then assess, rate, evaluate those breeders.

Are there other good breeders out there. Probably. But who knows who they are?

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by gemy

I am so tired of the pot shots at YTCA and the AKC. No it doesn't mean if you belong to AKC or YTCA registered dogs that all is right in the world. Well actually no individual person belongs to the AKC,only breed clubs belong to the AKC.

BUT it doesn't mean all is NOT right in the world.

The breeder members of the YTCA are scrutinized prior membership, and agree to a code of conduct. Does that mean 100% will abide by it? Of course not. But probably the majority does.

It so damn easy to backhand those organizations that put out front their agenda(s). So easy to critique the shortcomings. So easy to find fault.

It is so easy, because they have a very public face. They show their ie post their ethics, their scruples, and they are watched, assessed, disparaged (on here it seems like at every turn).

I personally stand behind all those posters who say; "start at YTCA for a list of breeders" it is a good starting point. Then assess, rate, evaluate those breeders.

Are there other good breeders out there. Probably. But who knows who they are?

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by shodanusmc

Totally agree with what you wrote, but we all have to remember what the motivation is of the few people that bash the YTCA. I think anyone with the IQ above a potato know why they do it. You think Color of the dog has anything to do with it? Nah, that can't be why.

Yep, always a method to the madness.

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by megansmomma

To the OPer~maybe you would consider a rescue. All three of mine are and I love them to death and could be sweeter.

Sadly, they must be screened as well. Unfortunately many millers have found that saying they are rescue helps to sell pups.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by ladyjane

Sadly, they must be screened as well. Unfortunately many millers have found that saying they are rescue helps to sell pups.

Not sadly, no matter what organization or non orginzation, be it rescue, breeder, whoever. Research, investigate and evaluate......it goes both ways, the breeder/rescuer/etc and the potential new family.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by shodanusmc

Totally agree with what you wrote, but we all have to remember what the motivation is of the few people that bash the YTCA. I think anyone with the IQ above a potato know why they do it. You think Color of the dog has anything to do with it? Nah, that can't be why.

It's very easy to point fingers,,,,,talk trash, etc. I think the tough part is to look at the man in the mirror.