My baby Jazi has obstruction in esophagus.

[Topazie]

She was able to reach the obstruction through her stomach.

[dollydoodle]

I'm so glad Jazi is recovering. Take care,

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by Topazie

She was able to reach the obstruction through her stomach.

So she cut her stomach? Ouch...but I guess better than actually cutting the esophagus. I don't know..... Just happy your girl is ok.

[AllDogBoots]

I am pleased to read that Jazi is recovering nicely.

[wemple2]

So far, so good. Pleased to hear this, I'll keep Jazi in my prayers, I really do hope she has a quick and full recovery from this. What a scare for both of you...

[dawn27]

I think that things got so way out of hand on this thread. Caring, respectful, loving members were seen in ways they should not have been and that includes the OP. Some comments were taken as attacks and not as they were intended which always leads to mayhem. What matters is that this pup got the care that it needed despite all of the speculations and assumptions being tossed around. In no way should this have gotten to the point of name calling by anyone. There are those types of threads that should never take a turn for the worse and when someone comes here describing their experience and the issues they are having with a sick pup should be at the top of that list. We should come together as a community and truly show that we are caring people regardless if you agree or disagree with the vet care or cores of action being taken.

I am so sorry that ladyjane/Linda was the subject of such an unnecessary rant. She/Linda is one of the most, caring, respectful, generous member we have here on TY. Anyone who has had the pleasure of interacting with her knows that she means no harm. That while she deals with her own health issues she makes sacrifices in order to help the sick and abandoned pups at Yorkie Haven Rescue.

OP: I am so happy that your vet was able to give your pup the care she needed and that she is doing better. Hopefully she is on the road to a smooth and quick recovery. I also hope that you will stick around and continue to update us on her progress.

[Connie]

I'm so glad to see that Jazi is doing better and will pray that she recover from her surgery and her lungs clear. It's a good sign when she's wagging her tail and giving kisses!

[107barney]

Why is this thread about Linda? Last I checked, she isn't the one who is posting about substandard vet care.

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by 107barney

Why is this thread about Linda? Last I checked, she isn't the one who is posting about substandard vet care.

It's not the first time...I always notice how the same theme pops up whenever I post on a certain type of thread.....as if someone is saying stuff behind the scenes. Weird but I have thick skin and if that makes certain people happy, I guess we should let them just have their happy moments. Am I paranoid? Perhaps, but I think not. Been around the internet long enough to pick up on things and just let it roll off me.

The sad part is that these people upset the posters more than anything I could say. The fact that I said nothing bad from the start is a message loud and clear to me about what happened. And, if someone wants to say I am imagining it, so be it. just sayin' .. cause it probably needs to be said.

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by dawn27

I think that things got so way out of hand on this thread. Caring, respectful, loving members were seen in ways they should not have been and that includes the OP. Some comments were taken as attacks and not as they were intended which always leads to mayhem. What matters is that this pup got the care that it needed despite all of the speculations and assumptions being tossed around. In no way should this have gotten to the point of name calling by anyone. There are those types of threads that should never take a turn for the worse and when someone comes here describing their experience and the issues they are having with a sick pup should be at the top of that list. We should come together as a community and truly show that we are caring people regardless if you agree or disagree with the vet care or cores of action being taken.

I am so sorry that ladyjane/Linda was the subject of such an unnecessary rant. She/Linda is one of the most, caring, respectful, generous member we have here on TY. Anyone who has had the pleasure of interacting with her knows that she means no harm. That while she deals with her own health issues she makes sacrifices in order to help the sick and abandoned pups at Yorkie Haven Rescue.

OP: I am so happy that your vet was able to give your pup the care she needed and that she is doing better. Hopefully she is on the road to a smooth and quick recovery. I also hope that you will stick around and continue to update us on her progress.

There were no assumptions at all...the OP was clear about the fact that she was settling for less...that her vet offered to do something that was risky. I cannot help but wonder how many people would have jumped up and down and screamed blue bloody murder had the outcome been other than it was. The vet was incompetent..and other such comments would have been flying.

I am very happy that Jazi seems ok for now...hope that she continues to do well. Never wanted anything less. My comments from the beginning were all about HER welfare. Nothing else. I have a vet who would make me find another way...she simply would not go outside of her field of expertise...or put my pups at risk just to make me happy. We all view our vets as we will...I personally would not be happy with a vet who offered the help that was offered to the OP...matter of fact there is a vet at my vet's office who would do such things and I avoid him like the plague. Has nothing to do with money...I don't have it like some of you think. I simply make sacrifices and put my pups first because they did not choose to live with me...I chose them.

[Ellie May]

Happy to hear your pup is doing well.

I'm not sure why anything short of endoscopy is being considered contraindicated here. Yes, scoping is good. It does not always work and cutting may end up being required anyway.

Maneuvering a basket or other tools in a tiny esophagus would be difficult. The vet didn't try to open the esophags which would be beyond a general vet's capability (generally). They just opened the stomach. I have no idea why people are upset over that.

[dawn27]

Anyone who feels that their vet is subpar or inadequate in preforming their duty's or is willing to perform a procedure that they are not qualified to do should look elsewhere for a more qualified vet. Its as simple as that . . our babies deserve the best possible care that we can provide for them!

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by Topazie

I just got Jazi last week...she is 9 weeks old. She was a lively ball of energy. I got her so my 2 year old Yorkie Mia would have a playmate.
Yesterday she started vomiting...by this morning she was still vomiting. I took her to the vet and she saw what she was doing. It appeared that she was coughing so hard and so much she was gagging herself. Vet gave her a shot to settle her stomach and gas me cough med and antibiotics. Told me to see how she does with that...if I need her she will be available all weekend so just call. I live about 20000 feet from her office. I drove home and then tried giving Jazi her med as instructed. Jazi fought me like crazy! Next thing I know she is screaming like crazy! And coughing and gagging. I have never heard a puppy scream like this. She sounded like a human baby! I grabbed her and jumped in the car and went right back to the vet. The doc checked her over and then took xrays.
Doc says she has swallowed something and it is stuck in her esophagus. Doc does'nt think it is hard...maybe a piece of material. Doc says I need to take her to a place that does endoscopy because she does not and there is no one in our town that does. The closest place is hours away and may cost hundreds of dollars just to check her then if she needs surgery I maybe upwards of six, seven hundred dollars or more. I have no way to get there and do not have that kind of money.

The doc says only thing she can do is keep her, watch her, keep her hydrated and out of pain and see if the obstruction moves on its own. She will take more xrays to see if the obstruction moves any. If it doesn't appear that anything will change she can go in through her belly and try to save her that way. There are no guarantees because someone who does endoscopy should really be doing it but she can try her best. Since I can't get to the other docs and can't pay for the other docs my only other option is to have her put to sleep if my vet doesn't try.

So right now she is at the vet and I am praying the obstruction starts to move on its own. I am hoping Jazi gets it to come up or it moves into her stomach. If it moves into her stomach the vet will have no problem with the operation.

Please pray for my baby Jazi that the obstruction moves so she can live!

Topazie

Originally Posted by Ellie May

Happy to hear your pup is doing well.

I'm not sure why anything short of endoscopy is being considered contraindicated here. Yes, scoping is good. It does not always work and cutting may end up being required anyway.

Maneuvering a basket or other tools in a tiny esophagus would be difficult. The vet didn't try to open the esophags which would be beyond a general vet's capability (generally). They just opened the stomach. I have no idea why people are upset over that.

While it may be true that surgery might be the only option, my understanding is that ideally the scope comes first.

I was merely commenting because of the highlighted words in the OP's original post that clearly say that the vet feels she should be scoped but money is not available...AND honestly my main concern was to let her know that there are ways to avoid having such disasters in the future ie: insurance Perhaps you have some information that might help the op in understanding how insurance works for pets?

I too am so happy to hear that Jazi is doing well.

[Wylie's Mom]

I'm so glad that your puppy is okay and that this turned out as it did. That's what is truly important here.

I can see that you were hurt by some comments here, and I can understand how you feel. However, you really must try to understand that this is a dog forum, and our dogs are absolutely precious beyond anything to most of us. It's clear you think your dog is precious to you as well - I see that. What can upset people here is when they see, sadly time and time again, someone here with a very sick dog who they don't have the funds to take care of. Can you understand how tough that is to witness? We've seen this a lot, and it gets tough.

No one here wants to hurt you, but they do want to see people (in general) be prepared to care for a *life* when they take one on as their responsibility. That's where it comes from - and that's coming from a good place...a place of concern, fear, caring.

You felt defensive, and that's okay...but when you came back with a post that was a bit attacking in return, it really didn't help matters. It's understandable you needed to get your feelings out - we all get that. But, you went a little too far there. You definitely went too far in implying one of our members was a rich snob - this particular member bases her life around rescuing yorkies - she is anything but a rich snob.

I hope going forward you can try to see where people were coming from, and that it wasn't meant as a personal attack on you. Rather, it was based in concern.

Originally Posted by Topazie

All you do is upset the Momma and close off communication and then that person will not be open to some good advice that may help the baby in the future. People may only be trying to help the baby but they need to keep in mind that no matter how you feel about the Momma, you need to get the Momma to listen to your advice for it to help the baby. Making her feel worse in the middle of crisis won't do that.

I culled this from your post bc I think these words are very important and I agree with them. I do think we have to be careful in balancing support, advice, constructive criticism, and destructive criticism. It isn't always easy....sometimes threads go beautifully, other times - some things go awry. But, I can tell you for sure that people really do care about you and the outcome for your precious little one.

Please, keep us posted on her recovery! Sending your kiddo lot of healing, good thoughts for her recovery.

[Ellie May]

Originally Posted by ladyjane

While it may be true that surgery might be the only option, my understanding is that ideally the scope comes first.

I was merely commenting because of the highlighted words in the OP's original post that clearly say that the vet feels she should be scoped but money is not available...AND honestly my main concern was to let her know that there are ways to avoid having such disasters in the future ie: insurance Perhaps you have some information that might help the op in understanding how insurance works for pets?

I too am so happy to hear that Jazi is doing well.

Yup, first line is to scope. It is best to do that for foreign bodies in the stomach too. But sooooo many vets still cut instead. So I don't think cutting first is a major deviation from standard of care.

Now if vet cut esophagus open, that would be risky for generalist to do and would change the situation. But trying to pull something into the stomach sounds fair. I saw somebody said the vet knew this was risky. I'm guessing risky isn't the word. The vet probably just wasn't sure if it would work.

We are lucky to have endoscopy onsite here. It is possible for cats and small dogs, but a small breed pup is so tiny. fitting a scope in there would have to be a challenge anyway.

From somebody who loves endo, I'd still let my dog's stomach be cut in a similar situation if needed.

I agree about pet insurance.
She said she doesn't have credit though, so no way to pay before reimbursement.