My baby Jazi has obstruction in esophagus.

[Connie]

Count me in as one who has learned not to post when my dogs are sick. I learned that when my Libby was so ill. I was pretty much told that she was going to die...I guess because I wasn't following their advice and commands. It wasn't that I wasn't getting Libby help, but to certain people, that help was not good enough. I should do it their way because they are right and I don't care enough about my dogs to get them proper treatment. I am very thankful to say that Libby is still alive and doing very well. Another of my dogs was recently diagnosed with a serious illness. Did I come here and do a thread for support? Are you kidding me? I already have enough stress and worry in my life than to ask for more, which is what I would be doing had I started a thread. I know there are a lot of caring people here and I appreciate the prayers and friendship, but I don't have thick enough skin to handle the other BS.

[Topazie]

Originally Posted by Connie

Count me in as one who has learned not to post when my dogs are sick. I learned that when my Libby was so ill. I was pretty much told that she was going to die...I guess because I wasn't following their advice and commands. It wasn't that I wasn't getting Libby help, but to certain people, that help was not good enough. I should do it their way because they are right and I don't care enough about my dogs to get them proper treatment. I am very thankful to say that Libby is still alive and doing very well. Another of my dogs was recently diagnosed with a serious illness. Did I come here and do a thread for support? Are you kidding me? I already have enough stress and worry in my life than to ask for more, which is what I would be doing had I started a thread. I know there are a lot of caring people here and I appreciate the prayers and friendship, but I don't have thick enough skin to handle the other BS.

You have my prayers and friendship for you and your babies Connie! From Mia and Jazi too!

[ladyjane]

[quote=Lolasmom1211;4303244]

Originally Posted by Topazie

Doc says I need to take her to a place that does endoscopy because she does not and there is no one in our town that does. The closest place is hours away and may cost hundreds of dollars just to check her then if she needs surgery I maybe upwards of six, seven hundred dollars or more. I have no way to get there and do not have that kind of money.

The doc says only thing she can do is keep her, watch her, keep her hydrated and out of pain and see if the obstruction moves on its own. She will take more xrays to see if the obstruction moves any. If it doesn't appear that anything will change she can go in through her belly and try to save her that way. There are no guarantees because someone who does endoscopy should really be doing it but she can try her best. Since I can't get to the other docs and can't pay for the other docs my only other option is to have her put to sleep if my vet doesn't try.

The above is the original post about Jazy. This is what most people that initially responded to the thread were reacting to. This post was in the Sick & Injured / Emergencies Talk section where most people are seeking advice. Most reactions were in response to what Jazy's own vet stated, not opinions offered by YorkieTalk posters.

My first vet laughed at most Yorkie Talk ideas also. Thanks goodness I didn't. I insisted that she do a BAT on Lola after reading many YorkieTalk posts in the Sick & Injured section, despite my vet - the professional - telling me she was fine. Lola was diagnosed with a liver shunt that Dr. Tobias repaired shortly thereafter. Lola is alive and well today, thanks to the advice and help of many YT posters. There is a wealth of knowledge to be found among members, if that is what you are seeking. Some you may agree with, some you may not - but this is an open forum and everyone should be allowed to express their opinion.

There is another forum for people who don't want to hear opinions on their pups' vet care :

Special Thoughts Needed

If a person only wants prayers and friendship, that is the perfect place to post!

Thank you for sharing your story...there are many, many more who have gotten a lot of help from YT who appreciate those who share their stories. I have seen a lot of people get better care for their pups because of that sharing. It boggles my brain that people get into these silly bash fests just because someone has tried to help.

[LuvTaycieGirl]

In October last year Taycie was diagnosed with MVD. Leading up to this diagnosis was not an easy road. I had a very sick dog that was suffering from the neurological side effects leading up to this disease and a vet that I was trusting that I should have kicked to the curb long ago.

I posted a thread through the entire process. I was doing my best to help Taycie but had it not been for members here on YT and thick skin, and I am not sure Taycie would be here with me today. I was sucked in with my general vet believing she would help me figure it out when in reality I look back I should have left her care long ago. I remember posts, pm's, emails, questioning me, telling me, that I should be seeing a specialist and that Taycie was suffering and she needed a different level of care.

Not only was it an emotional rollercoster ride dealing with a very sick dog but had it not been for the few members that questioned what I was doing, I am not sure the outcome would be what it is today. Now a year later, Taycie is managed wonderfully. I also have become a better pet owner because of this experience. Yes, this requires thick skin. It wasn't easy going through something so traumatic and having YT members question my level of care. Did this make me feel awful. Of course. But, I decided I had a choice. I chose to listen to the ones on YT that have been through my similar experiences, and I am better for it.

[Lolasmom1211]

Originally Posted by LuvTaycieGirl

In October last year Taycie was diagnosed with MVD. Leading up to this diagnosis was not an easy road. I had a very sick dog that was suffering from the neurological side effects leading up to this disease and a vet that I was trusting that I should have kicked to the curb long ago.

I posted a thread through the entire process. I was doing my best to help Taycie but had it not been for members here on YT and thick skin, and I am not sure Taycie would be here with me today. I was sucked in with my general vet believing she would help me figure it out when in reality I look back I should have left her care long ago. I remember posts, pm's, emails, questioning me, telling me, that I should be seeing a specialist and that Taycie was suffering and she needed a different level of care.

Not only was it an emotional rollercoster ride dealing with a very sick dog but had it not been for the few members that questioned what I was doing, I am not sure the outcome would be what it is today. Now a year later, Taycie is managed wonderfully. I also have become a better pet owner because of this experience. Yes, this requires thick skin. It wasn't easy going through something so traumatic and having YT members question my level of care. Did this make me feel awful. Of course. But, I decided I had a choice. I chose to listen to the ones on YT that have been through my similar experiences, and I am better for it.

Great post!!!

[Yorkiemom1]

Originally Posted by 107barney

Just because there are people who disagree doesn't mean we all need a lecture from you or your posse. The fact is, I wouldn't have done what you did. I routinely transvere three states for dog care. I'm not rich, just committed to getting gold standard of care for my dogs. I had people tell me to put my 11 year old healthy happy Yorkie to sleep due to a torn ligament that would cost $3,000 to fix. Did I get all wounded and have my friends call them meanies? No, I ignored their nonsense and did what I wanted to do for my dog. I also have posted here and gotten slack myself so it cuts both ways. This is yorkietalk, welcome aboard and toughen up. We are a collective wealth of information but we don't deliver it the way the op sometimes wants.

[Yorkiemom1]

[quote=ladyjane;4303298]

Originally Posted by Lolasmom1211

There is another forum for people who don't want to hear opinions on their pups' vet care :

Special Thoughts Needed

If a person only wants prayers and friendship, that is the perfect place to post!
Thank you for sharing your story...there are many, many more who have gotten a lot of help from YT who appreciate those who share their stories. I have seen a lot of people get better care for their pups because of that sharing. It boggles my brain that people get into these silly bash fests just because someone has tried to help.

[Wylie's Mom]

Originally Posted by Connie

Count me in as one who has learned not to post when my dogs are sick. I learned that when my Libby was so ill. I was pretty much told that she was going to die...I guess because I wasn't following their advice and commands. It wasn't that I wasn't getting Libby help, but to certain people, that help was not good enough. I should do it their way because they are right and I don't care enough about my dogs to get them proper treatment. I am very thankful to say that Libby is still alive and doing very well. Another of my dogs was recently diagnosed with a serious illness. Did I come here and do a thread for support? Are you kidding me? I already have enough stress and worry in my life than to ask for more, which is what I would be doing had I started a thread. I know there are a lot of caring people here and I appreciate the prayers and friendship, but I don't have thick enough skin to handle the other BS.

Connie - I am so sorry that things went this way for you bc I don't believe this section should result in something like this...very sorry you had to go through not only dealing with a sick kiddo, but being badgered as well. Sadly, I've heard this more times than I wish. What is also upsetting is that it is TOTALLY and 100% unnecessary for people to communicate in such a way that people end up feeling pummeled. If someone/anyone doesn't know how to communicate without treating someone horribly, then they should not be posting. Period.

Originally Posted by LuvTaycieGirl

In October last year Taycie was diagnosed with MVD. Leading up to this diagnosis was not an easy road. I had a very sick dog that was suffering from the neurological side effects leading up to this disease and a vet that I was trusting that I should have kicked to the curb long ago.

I posted a thread through the entire process. I was doing my best to help Taycie but had it not been for members here on YT and thick skin, and I am not sure Taycie would be here with me today. I was sucked in with my general vet believing she would help me figure it out when in reality I look back I should have left her care long ago. I remember posts, pm's, emails, questioning me, telling me, that I should be seeing a specialist and that Taycie was suffering and she needed a different level of care.

Not only was it an emotional rollercoster ride dealing with a very sick dog but had it not been for the few members that questioned what I was doing, I am not sure the outcome would be what it is today. Now a year later, Taycie is managed wonderfully. I also have become a better pet owner because of this experience. Yes, this requires thick skin. It wasn't easy going through something so traumatic and having YT members question my level of care. Did this make me feel awful. Of course. But, I decided I had a choice. I chose to listen to the ones on YT that have been through my similar experiences, and I am better for it.

Thank you for such an honest account of how things went for you. I'm glad things turned out well and that the advice here did end up helping the outcome.

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There are things on this thread that could have and should have gone much better (on all sides of things). Anyone who doesn't see that is in denial of what occurred. As human beings, we ALL make mistakes, make assumptions, say the wrong thing, do things in such a way that at any time - 10 other people would highly disagree with our choices. Rarely, if ever, is there an absolute in terms of what is right or wrong. Rather, it's almost always subjective. Therefore, we should all be SO careful toward not coming off as if one knows the absolute right thing to do or say in any situation.

Everyone is at a different place in life and everyone's situation and experiences are different. No one ever deserves to be put down for being where they're at...and sadly, we see that too often here at YT. No one is suggesting kid glove handling, but we seriously do need to try much harder at accepting the differences in people and even if we don't agree with them, to still interact respectfully and in as a supportive way as possible. This forum is here to SUPPORT and HELP...it's not a place where we should be attacking members with sick dogs, denigrating them and their choices, or pitting others against each other. On the same note, when members post here with sick dogs - they should expect a variety of opinions and feelings and passion. They too need to try to be respectful of the replies they requested - it goes both ways here.

Call me a ridiculous optimist, but I firmly believe that we should always be striving to do better and be better - most especially when feelings clearly got/get heated.

[LisaSid]

Originally Posted by Patti

The younger they are when you get the insurance the cheaper it is. I currently have VPI but would not recommend them as they don't cover genetic or preexisting conditions. Which of course mine had. I pay about 32.00 a month for each of my 3 dogs. I have heard good things about Trupanion Insurance.
Having the insurance gives me some peace of mind. My DH passed last year cutting my income in half, my DD has a chronic disease that has run her medical bills into the thousands just the past 3 months. Even with insurance she can't afford the balance so I help her. No I didn't expect any of the above to happen when I got 3 yorkies. Having the safety net of pet insurance is great peace of mind.

I too had VPI on all four of my Yorkies but have had to drop them as they continued to get more expensive each year and cutting back on coverage (which they said it was because my dogs were getting older). They just didn't want to have to pay the medical costs. Insurance is good to have but be careful of the company. One of my babies had a congenital defect and it cost me thousands to have it taken care of and she still has the chance of being in a wheel chair if she loses her other hind leg. This is a really sad thread because I know how it feels to be in such a desperate position and you feel like you are grasping at anything to hold onto. I pray for Jazi too and that she will be a healthy and happy girl.