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Old 08-17-2013, 07:15 PM   #16
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Hope your jazi is doing well.
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Thank you everyone for all of your prays, good wishes and kindness.

First I would like to say that Jazi is out of surgery and did fine in surgery. The doc was not able to get it all because pieces kept breaking off and it got to the point that the things they were using kept slipping past the obstruction or pushed it away. We think she must have got a hold of some kind of treat that my two year old hid before we even got Jazi. Doc thinks that there is a good chance that the piece is now small enough that it will pass through her system now. It is still wait and see...Doc is taking Jazi home with her to keep an eye on her. Of course we will also have all the worries of recovering from surgery with no problems...but things are better than they were and Jaz's chances are much better now. I am sure your prays helped, please keep praying for her for a full recovery. Thank you.

Now, to the people who are looking down on me.....I have always taken care of my pets medical issues even not paying household bills and skimping on groceries to do so. My baby that recently died did not die because she did not get medical attention. I picked her up on Saturday late. She seemed tired from the trip plus I had been told she did not sleep well the Friday because she was up all night crying for her sister. By late Sunday, early Monday morning she was vomiting and passing worms. I already had a vet appt set for Tues before I even got her home. Since she seemed sick I didn't wait til Tuesday to take her to the vet. I took off work and I paid for emergency treatment to get her in early Monday. Turns out she had a couple different worms and parasites. Vet did tests, gave some shots, gave me meds for her and instructions to feed her with a syringe every hour and half. I did as she said, feeding what she said, how much she said and when she said. I barely left her side all day and night comforting and caring for her. But to my horror she died Tuesday morning.

I hurt so bad and kept seeing my dead baby in my mind. After working so hard to save her I lost her. I could hardly concentrate on my work when I went back. My husband insisted that we by another puppy right away to try to ease my pain. So that weekend we bought Jazi, took her right to the vet on the way home, again paying for emergency care just so she could be checked right away. Thank fully she was healthy. Unfortunately she got a hold of something. I took her to the vet as soon as I realized there was a problem even though I was now out of money. Went home with her with meds, 10 minutes later I was back at the vet because she was in distress. I had her do what things she could even doing ex rays and stuff knowing I was going to be spending money I did not have. When it was mentioned that I would have to take her to the big city and pay big city docs I knew I could not do it. I am out of money and credit so what would you have me pay with? At least my doc will work something out with me....those big rich city docs are going to want money right there that I had no way of giving them. Give her away to someone who could help her? Do you not understand? This was an emergency situation, there was no time to find someone to take a sick puppy and drive it hours away for care. If you would have heard how bad she was screaming at times, you would understand that there was no time for that. Even if I had the money, getting her there would have been hard for her. Even though I don't have the money, I did not tell my vet to skip the operation. Knowing that there is a chance that she might not pull through I am still putting myself in debt for an operation hoping she will live. I could very well told the vet just to put her to sleep so I don't have to put out the money for an operation. I did not, putting her to sleep was my very last option! Just because I can't afford the fancier doctors and procedures doesn't mean I should not have a yorkie. I have a two year old yorkie that has been to the vet for many things costing me a lot of money, yes, but I sacrifice everything I can if need be. My vet and I are on first name bases because I am in touch with her so much to make sure my Mia is OK medically. Everybody has a point of how much they can do, some people are lucky and can do more even without making sacrifices. I do as much as I can AND I make sacrifices to do it, financially and with my heart and sole.My puppies are not loved or spoiled any less than anybody else's. I bought the puppy for Mia, so she could have a friend. I have now spent hundred and hundreds of dollars and I still am not sure if my family will be complete.

I came here for prayers and well wishes to my baby, not to have people insinuate that I should not have a puppy because I am not rich enough. I have news for you I am richer than you because I love my babies more than you ever could.It doesn't take love to just throw money at things because you have it. I live paycheck to payheck and struggle to pay my bills with my paycheck. I don' have money to put away for emergencies or to pay for insurance so I have to make sacrifices to do the things I need to do for my babies and that is OK cause they are worth the sacrifices. I had a little extra money and used that to get my yorkie a playmate before she was too old to accept on, then I put myself in debt trying to save her life, then went more in debt to get a healthy puppy, now I am going in debt to try to save her life, hopefully I will be successful this time. I am sorry there are some of you who do not think I have sacrificed enough or that I do not love my puppies enough, or that I don't deserve to have a puppy but you are wrong. How much sacrificing do you do for your babies, actual sacrificing? Try it sometime, Only then will you know what true love for your baby is. Give until you have nothing else to give and then give more. Then maybe you will understand and won't be the type of person that hurts and puts down someone who is already on the floor in pain anymore.

To the people who said nice things sending their prayers and caring, thank and I am sorry you had to read the above. It just makes me mad when people try to hurt people that already are hurting. It makes it worse when they try to sugar coat it so everyone doesn't know they are being rude.

I am sorry you had to read all that. I haven't heard anything more from the vet so that means things are going OK for Jazi right now. Please keep the prayers and good wishes coming , she still has a long road before she is out of the woods.
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No one is being mean to you....just trying to make you see that you need to find a way to care for these pups. They don't have a choice....they are dependent upon YOU to care for them. AGAIN...I strongly urge you to look into insurance or make some kind of plan for emergencies. You say you cannot afford insurance...well then I am going to go out on a limb and say you cannot afford to own these pups. Have you priced insurance??? It really is not that expensive...surely you can sacrifice something to pay for it. Try this link out...it compares insurance plans...and you can go to the sites and get estimates. http://www.topconsumerreviews.com/pet-insurance/

As to your other comments about others not loving their pups....I cannot even respond to that foolishness. You have NO idea what you are talking about. And do tell...what exactly did you sacrifice to care for these pups? I think personally you are sacrificing their well being .. I hate to say this but since you called me to task, I am giving it right back to you. Telling me that you sacrificed by buying a playmate for a pup when you can barely make ends meet? It's not like you don't know that they can get sick .. Oh please..I need to leave this alone....your kind of love is just beyond my comprehension.

As for being sorry we had to read all of that....honestly I am sorry I ever read this thread. It horrified me.

As I said earlier, I am praying for Jazi.

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I am so sorry that your baby is not well. I will be thinking about you all tonight. I would like to suggest two things (both of which I do) that may help. You might try applying for CareCredit. We use this ONLY for emergencies also for the future. It sound silly but I swear that it works. Every paycheck put a set amount in an envelope marked Dog Fund. If you put only $25 in it each paycheck it will add up. I have been very lucky and not had to use the money from this envelope so as my dog gets older I hope to be prepared for any problems in the future.
Please keep us informed as to how your baby is.
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Old 08-17-2013, 10:05 PM   #21
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The wonderful thing about buying a puppy from a reputable breeder is that while you may pay more for the baby, it is healthy. Sounds like that first baby was not from a reputable breeder, as it was obviously eaten up with worms and parasites....a reputable breeder does not sell parasite infested pups. If something does happen, chances are your breeder will at least be available to you for guidance and encouragement. Before even selling you a pup, a responsible breeder will make sure you have the capability to financially take care of a puppy. I see you have a young child....you have to understand that a little puppy is just like having a baby....you have to watch everything that they do and when you can not have your eyes glued to them, you need to have them enclosed in a playpen so they can not eat foreigh objects that will strangle them. If Jazi survives this misadventure, I would suggest this baby not be allowed out of your sight.....like children, they put everything in their mouths....they can easily choke to death or eat something poisionous. YOU are the only thing standing between them and disaster....you have to watch them continously. You will need to stockpile funds in order to provide medical care for your pet......a reasonable cushion would be around $5000.00. You should read books on the care and upbringing of pups....I always recommend "Yorkies for Dummies and "Yorkshire Terriers: A Smart Owners Guide." These book will tell you everything you could possibly want to know about many, many aspects of owning a Yorkie. Any other sources of education of rearing puppies are also helpful and will hopefully help you do preventative measures that you have not thought of, to keep your pup safe. Pet insurance is almost a must have....especially if you dont have a credit card with emergency funds available for emergencies. I will continue to pray for little Jazi....
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As for your comments to LadyJane. You might check the bottom of her page. You will see that she is involved in rescue work. I assure you that she is neither a snob,nor is she even close to rich. Her every breathing moment is devoted to more little yorkies,most of which need desperate care, than I can even imagine taking care of.
Again I am so very sorry that you are hurting so deeply with worry with your baby.
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Ok, I just want to add my prayers that your baby survives this. I do hope that you stick around and keep us updated.
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Nope, not rich. I sacrifice a lot to care for my pups, but I am not going to tell you how I do that. This is not about me or how I provide for my pups. Your story frightened me and I was just advising you strongly that you should look into ways to provide for emergencies. A scope would have been SO much easier on this tiny puppy than having a regular vet cut her open...high risk and very painful for the pup. That was ALL I was saying! It hurts me to see these kinds of things happen to these pups.

Praying that Jazi heals from this surgery.
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You know, you spent a lot of time explaining how you care for your pups and honestly I am quite sure you do your best. I am not a wealthy person and do not think only wealthy people should have yorkies. I believe you care very much for your pups. Yes, I provide the very best in veterinary care...but that does NOT mean I am wealthy...it means I am doing what you are talking about..I am sacrificing. You don't know anything about my financial means and have no clue if you think I am wealthy. You don't know what I give up to provide for them and I am not going to tell you. Just suffice it to say that I do without a lot to provide for them.

It's too bad that you cannot see that I am merely explaining to you that if you had pet insurance, which would be fairly inexpensive for Jazi since she is so young, that you could have gotten her scoped and saved her from a very uncomfortable and risky surgery. You said yourself that what your vet did was not the best way...that she had told you a scope was preferred. I have considered pet insurance myself but my problem is that my pups have a lot of pre-existing conditions. Your Jazi does not and I know that the insurance is really reasonable. There is no need for you to be so defensive. I made a suggestion and others have made suggestions....you clearly did something out of desperation and we are trying to help you avoid having to do this again in the future. Pets can get things that can really rock you financially...I SO know that.

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Yorkiemom, I think you must have misunderstood something I wrote, I do not have a young child. My children are grown and with their own children. But I do have a two year old Yorkie, Mia.
As for the pup that died a little over a week ago, no she was not a reputable breeder. I have looked and never find any where I live. Besides most reputable breeders charged way more than I can pay. I want a yorkie because of the non shedding, small size for inside and their great personality! But because all the reputable breeders charge such high fees people like me get stuck buying from unreputable people. I always hear breeders saying people have to stop buying from those other dealers but have they thought that if they lowered their prices people would buy from them instead of the other ones. People sell other pure breeds and don't charge anywhere near the prices charged for yorkies.Yes I got screwed over with the second yorkie I ever bought and I may never be able to recoup that money but when I add that to the price I paid for Jazi it was still cheaper than any reputable breeders I was finding. Yes my heart got broken and the poor baby suffered but whether I bought that pup or someone else did she was still going to be sold. Unfortunately I am the one that got a broken heart and lost my money.

I know I have to watch puppies I am not stupid and I resent the implication that I was foolishly letting a baby run through the house on her own. Mia an Jazi run around my living room chasing each other while I sit and laugh at them. Anyone that knows yorkies knows they move fast. They will go from one end of the room to next before your eyes can find them when they are running. Just like with babies you can lose sight of them for a second and something happens....not that you are not watching them but that there is just a lapse for a few seconds especially if they move to a spot on the other side of a chair where you can't see or run behind a sofa before you can get them out. It must have been one of those times that Jazi found something Mia had hidden and had possibly fell on the floor where she saw it and my husband and I did not.

I think I am getting off here. I came on for support and prayers not lectures or lessons for something I know and for which all of you do not know the circumstances. I don't know why I am bothering to try to explain the circumstances. The fact remains I came on here for support and prayers not to be grilled, not to be lectured, not to be taught. If I think I need to learn something I will read or ask.

To those who truly offered their prayers and support without lectures and lessons, I thank you from the bottom of my heart.

To those who lectured and taught I appreciate that you were only trying to help but that was not the help I was seeking and instead of making me feel better you made me more stressed. In the future when someone is looking for prayers, give them prayers, hold the lesson til they ask for it so you don't insult them.

Thanks again to those that truly cared.
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One other thing before I go....all of you keep harping on the money reason for not doing the scope......what good is having the money or insurance if the facility with the equipment is not here. It is hours away and no way to get there. You all keep overlooking that one big factor. And please don't all start suggesting things about that. I am not going into it but all options were checked and not possible. Everybody keeps acting like I am cheap, stupid and selfish and you couldn't be further from the truth.
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" But because all the reputable breeders charge such high fees people like me get stuck buying from unreputable people. I always hear breeders saying people have to stop buying from those other dealers but have they thought that if they lowered their prices people would buy from them instead of the other ones."

Can you possibly be suggesting it is the fault of the responsible breeders out there, that YOU decided rather than WAIT until you could save the money to purchase a healthy pup from a responsible breeder, you bought a cheap sick pup from questionable sources, that died because of parasite infestation???????????? And then your second pup got strangled after eating a foreign object and needed medical care that could not be provided within walking distance to your house.....and that is the fault of responsible breeders because you think they should take a major loss on their pups in order that you dont find yourself in your current situation????????????
I cannot follow your reasoning that as breeders, we should spend thousands and thousands of dollars on our own breeding stock, in order to produce puppies that come from the best blood lines available, trying to reproduce puppies that are above all, healthy and conform to the breed standard, ......provide the VERY BEST IN VET CARE, EVEN IF IT MEANS DRIVING AS MUCH AS 500 MILES IF NECESSARY, feeding the best in dog food, working 24/7 socializing and nurturing and loving and caring for babies we produce, sending them to new homes fully vaccinated, de wormed, microchipped, crate trained, pee pad trained......and you honestly think WE need to just give these babies away to people that do not have the wherewithal to either get to necessary medical care, or do not have the financial means to provide the medical care that is required to save that pups life????? Responsible, ethical, respected breeders have MORE money and labor invested in each of our babies, than we charge.....people that actually understand what all goes into breeding, know full well responsible breeders DO NOT GET RICH from doing what we do....but to think there are actually people out there that think we should produce these wonderful, healthy, beautiful babies, so we can just give them to people that can not afford them.....that is absolutely ludicrous! What about expecting people to SAVE money in order to buy a healthy puppy, that HOPEFULLY will survive a week or two after the person gets home with their new pup! What about new owners putting in the effort to provide insurance or being able to provide medical care, even getting in a car and driving to that care, if it becomes necessary! (There are people that load up their babies and drive across this country to the best vet care at vet colleges or specialists because they have a pup that needs the care!) Get real! My expenses for my breeding business, exceeds my sales on my puppies by $30,000.00+!!! I do not even break even! But I will not give away my dogs to people that can not afford to provide the best care for them! I sincerely believe I am doing more than my fair share....new owners like yourself, have to assume some responsibility and accountability in this deal, instead of thinking for even one minute that breeders are obligated to provide puppies to people that can not provide for them!!!!! If YOU choose to buy from puppy mills and from questionable sources, because they are cheap, and they dump these sick pups before they have to even de worm or vaccinate, remember, you get what you pay for. That is YOUR choice and you will pay for it, sooner or later. It costs well over $1200.00 to get a puppy from 0 - 14 weeks old....and that is if there were no problems with the whelping or the puppy. As responsible breeders, we are meeting OUR responsibilities for our dogs/puppies/breeding programs......new owners must meet theirs!
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the cost of the puppy is the smallest expense you will have. If you have to struggle with that you can't afford the dog. Sometimes love is not enough. Have you tried fostering for a small dog rescue? They have wonderful dogs and usually take care of expenses.
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