Louis is sick, I am scared that it's pancreatitis

[lil louis]

Originally Posted by Ellie May

Sorry for all the questions, but is he holding down food or water at all?
By white, how white? White gums are not a good sign, but of course all dogs will vary slightly. Any white does concern me though...

Don't be sorry for asking questions, I really appreciate everyones help/advice. I shouldn't have said white, they are just a really light pink. He will drink water, but he hasn't eaten any food since last night.

[dwerten]

Originally Posted by lil louis

Don't be sorry for asking questions, I really appreciate everyones help/advice. I shouldn't have said white, they are just a really light pink. He will drink water, but he hasn't eaten any food since last night.

they can go without food if larger yorkie. Water is more important than food but if the vomitting cycle is still going you have to pull up water and not let them gulp

[lil louis]

Originally Posted by dwerten

also is he tossing and turning like he cannot get comfortable as dogs with pancreatitis are in pain. My dog had it. How much does he weigh as 5 times vomitting can be alot for a tiny dog. Diarrhea is more dehydrating though than vomitting so if you have both going on that is not good.

3 days after probably not hot dog as usually it is within a 12 -24 hr time period for it to trigger but anything is possible.

Best to restrict food for 12 hrs if you think pancreatitis. Also hold up water until vomitting stops then slowly give them some and do not let them gulp the water as gulping will make them vomit it up. I usually will give little bits at a time with my finger but only after all vomitting has stopped. You have to stop the vomitting cycle to let the tummy rest.

First they vomit food, then bile then white foam. What is he vomitting up now?

Louis weighs 6lbs,. 8 ozs., I am sure he has lost a little weight since all of this. Louis is definitely tossing and turning. He will be laying in one spot, and then get up to go lay in another spot. I feel so bad for him. He has started following me around a little. I am trying not to get up much, so he doesn't have to get up. He is vomiting a yellow/orange color and it has a foul odor. I am going to take him to the vet first thing in the morning if he is still sick. I will put up all food/water until tomorrow. Thanks for all of the advice.

[dwerten]

Originally Posted by lil louis

Louis weighs 6lbs,. 8 ozs., I am sure he has lost a little weight since all of this. Louis is definitely tossing and turning. He will be laying in one spot, and then get up to go lay in another spot. I feel so bad for him. He has started following me around a little. I am trying not to get up much, so he doesn't have to get up. He is vomiting a yellow/orange color and it has a foul odor. I am going to take him to the vet first thing in the morning if he is still sick. I will put up all food/water until tomorrow. Thanks for all of the advice.

If he is tossing and turning I would take him in as he is in pain If they cannot get comfortable they are in pain. You can hold up food but water only for a little while until all vomitting has stopped for say an hour or two then introduce a little water on finger

if it is orange does it look like blood in it as usually yellow bile if vomitting stomach acids not orange

[brendarash]

Hello, I am so sorry to hear your little one is sick. I had a little boy for 18 yrs and once we had a home sitter come in while we went on vacation for two weeks. After a lot of reference checking she seemed to be the right one to stay with my little Ferdie. Well ,when we returned from vacation she happened to be outside walking him when we pulled up, he acted as if he knew who we were but could of cared less,(not him ) once she left he still was laying around action, not right. I picked him up,he was acting lethargic, then he vomited a few times (yellow bile ) I called the women that watched him ,she said he was acting like that since yesterday.I ask her did he eat anything different she said oh yea Saturday (4 days before) I made chili and I gave him the "juice" from the cooked ground beef and then he ate a big bowl of chili with me. I thought I would die, What you feed him the fat from g.b. and also chili? she said very proudly yea! I said now I know whats wrong. I ran to the vet, after blood work yes Pancretitis.The vomiting yellow is from him not eating, He was very sick the vet said we will be very lucky if he pulls this ,Thank goodness he did. The symptoms you are describing sound like pancreatitis but eating a hot dog may of upset his system more than pancreatitis. The vet said no fat anything. I had to watch him closely for the rest of his life.When they get it then it is very easy to get it again. He got it 3 times in his 18 yrs. The last time, he got it, the vet said no food by mouth just water,for 24 hrs give the system a break. Then rice and Ground beef. She said that we could not even cook or eat in the house because the smell of food would get his pancreas working and it needs to rest. They put him on antibiotics and in about a week he was fine. I would be very surprised if it is panceatitis with just a hot dog. But it is possible. Hopefully a stomach upset. The yellow bile is because he has no food in his tummy, If he is eating maybe a teaspoon at a time of rice and g.b.,If he is not drinking Emergency vet is where you need to go. If it has been longer then about 12 hrs. They will need to do sub-q fluids, asap.If he is drinking water then I would call the vet in the morning. I hope he is better by the morning and maybe a call to the vet to see what ther say is what I would do. I think he will be fine. Good Luck. Brenda, Jackie, Sadie, Rosie, Julie, and Romeo

[lil louis]

Originally Posted by dwerten

If he is tossing and turning I would take him in as he is in pain If they cannot get comfortable they are in pain. You can hold up food but water only for a little while until all vomitting has stopped for say an hour or two then introduce a little water on finger

if it is orange does it look like blood in it as usually yellow bile if vomitting stomach acids not orange

It doesn't look like there is any blood in it. I will try the water on my finger.

[dwerten]

Originally Posted by lil louis

It doesn't look like there is any blood in it. I will try the water on my finger.

ok

what i would do is take the bowl to dex let him drink and if he refused i would take two fingers and put to his mouth to lick. He would vomit then gulp water then vomit then gulp water and that is the worst thing you can let them do as you have to stop the vomitting cycle. The pain concerns me as pancreatitis is very painful. If he seems to painful you may need to take him in tonight. When dex had it he could not get comfortable just kept moving from spot to spot and we had to take him in

[Ellie May]

I'm probably missing it, but have you noticed if the water stays down? If it is not staying down, then he is almost certainly dehydrated now. If he is dehydrated, you may have to go to the ER tonight.

Very light pink gums may be a sign of problems, but are his gums sticky? Or are they wet?

If he is tossing and turning, then I would be concerned about the pancreas.

I just don't want to see him get dehydrated and get into trouble medically because of it.

[lil louis]

Originally Posted by dwerten

ok

what i would do is take the bowl to dex let him drink and if he refused i would take two fingers and put to his mouth to lick. He would vomit then gulp water then vomit then gulp water and that is the worst thing you can let them do as you have to stop the vomitting cycle. The pain concerns me as pancreatitis is very painful. If he seems to painful you may need to take him in tonight. When dex had it he could not get comfortable just kept moving from spot to spot and we had to take him in

Originally Posted by Ellie May

I'm probably missing it, but have you noticed if the water stays down? If it is not staying down, then he is almost certainly dehydrated now. If he is dehydrated, you may have to go to the ER tonight.

Very light pink gums may be a sign of problems, but are his gums sticky? Or are they wet?

If he is tossing and turning, then I would be concerned about the pancreas.

I just don't want to see him get dehydrated and get into trouble medically because of it.

He seems to be a little better. He has been sleeping for the past hour. (Not getting up and moving around.) His gums are moist. He holds the water down. (He doesn't vomit right away.) I am going to call the vet first thing in the morning. I will take him to the emergency vet if he gets any worse. I will keep everyone posted. I am going to go lay down with him. Thanks again for all of the advice.

[dwerten]

Originally Posted by lil louis

He seems to be a little better. He has been sleeping for the past hour. (Not getting up and moving around.) His gums are moist. He holds the water down. (He doesn't vomit right away.) I am going to call the vet first thing in the morning. I will take him to the emergency vet if he gets any worse. I will keep everyone posted. I am going to go lay down with him. Thanks again for all of the advice.

ok keep us posted and hope you both get some rest tonight

[Maximo]

Originally Posted by lil louis

He seems to be a little better. He has been sleeping for the past hour. (Not getting up and moving around.) His gums are moist. He holds the water down. (He doesn't vomit right away.) I am going to call the vet first thing in the morning. I will take him to the emergency vet if he gets any worse. I will keep everyone posted. I am going to go lay down with him. Thanks again for all of the advice.

Hope Louis gets some rest and is doing better in the morning.

[ladyjane]

If he vomits again tonight, I would suggest you take him to the EC. Vomiting this much along with diarrhea is a lot for a small pup. He very well may need fluids. At least he would get something to help him feel better.

I hope he continues to do better, but seriously, I would not wait until morning if this continues.

[Ladymom]

Originally Posted by ladyjane

If he vomits again tonight, I would suggest you take him to the EC. Vomiting this much along with diarrhea is a lot for a small pup. He very well may need fluids. At least he would get something to help him feel better.

I hope he continues to do better, but seriously, I would not wait until morning if this continues.

I agree. They can dehydrate so quickly from vomiting and diarrhea. Lady had an episode a few years ago that "only" lasted 24 hours, but the next day she still wasn't eating and was lethargic. It was a Sunday so I debated waiting until morning since she hadn't vomited or had diarrhea since the day before. I decided not to take the chance. I took her to the ER vet and am so glad I did! Her electrolytes were so out of whack the vet told me she was in danger of cardiac arrest. Dehydration is just so serious in toy breeds.

[lil louis]

Louis is doing much better this morning. I called the vet and made an appt. They couldn't get me in until this afternoon. I will keep everyone posted. Thanks again for everyones help.

[lil louis]

Originally Posted by Ladymom

I agree. They can dehydrate so quickly from vomiting and diarrhea. Lady had an episode a few years ago that "only" lasted 24 hours, but the next day she still wasn't eating and was lethargic. It was a Sunday so I debated waiting until morning since she hadn't vomited or had diarrhea since the day before. I decided not to take the chance. I took her to the ER vet and am so glad I did! Her electrolytes were so out of whack the vet told me she was in danger of cardiac arrest. Dehydration is just so serious in toy breeds.

Has Lady had any more problems since then? If the vet said it is pancreatitis, how do they treat it?