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02-11-2010, 01:58 PM | #16 | |
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02-11-2010, 02:36 PM | #17 |
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| I do that with pumpkin and I also do it with coconut milk.
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| Thank you everyone for your suggestions, we have had a success, it was small but still a success, lol It has been crazy here (weather & schedule) but I am going to get pumpkin tmrw just to help everything move smoother for the next few days... she is eating and drinking much better though. She was being babysat while I was out today and when I came home she was very alert and awake... I realized she was two hours late on her pain meds... I gave them to her and now she is back to how she was before, so I am thinking her mood/energy level is due to the pain meds. I dont want to take her off of them in case she is in pain, so maybe when they are done she will get back to herself. |
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02-12-2010, 01:45 PM | #20 | |
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Pain meds constipates them so i use pumpkin as my demi was on torbitrol and she did not poop for a few days it was after having teeth extractions for dental and i walked her and gave her pumpkin but it took a few days for her to poop. If this was for mvd diagnosis what were the bat numbers? | |
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i also slice up pineapple and freeze on cookie tray and put in baggie for my poop eaters | |
02-12-2010, 01:53 PM | #23 | |
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I just think doing the biopsy does not change the plan of action at all so why put them through it and i have read if they biopsy one part of the liver vs another the outcome can be different anyway so you really are not getting concrete information anyway. My dog has mvd she has tested post 73, 54 and 26 and luckily she was tested at 3 years old after her spay so i am glad as i did not have to make that decision but i just am not feeling comfortable with it the more i read on it | |
02-12-2010, 01:55 PM | #24 | |
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The Bat numbers were (i dont have them in front of me now, but I think) 15 & 57 and then retested the pre # was normal and the post # was 35. Shunt was ruled out with an ultrasound even though the numbers didnt indicate it anyway. I was going back and forth on whether to biopsy or not, but I spoke with two specialists and consulted the yahoo group and everyone seemed to think it was best to biopsy since she was being spayed anyway, this way we would know for sure and there would never be a question for the future. The vet said her liver looked perfect, perfect size, color, etc... so that was at least promising news... now we just wait on the biopsy results. I have been treating her as an MVD dog anyway for the last few months, so even if it is confirmed it wont really make a difference in her life at this point. | |
02-12-2010, 01:58 PM | #25 | |
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wanted to add when demi went under for dental and was on pain meds it was 3 days before she pooped and i was nervous so i started adding pumpkin and walked her every hour around the block so it does take time and she was eating pretty normal so if yours is eating less then i would think it would take longer also i agree with the baby foods as onion causes anemia in dogs and your dog just had surgery so you need to be very careful | |
02-12-2010, 02:00 PM | #26 | |
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Was she having any symptoms? | |
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| yeah those numbers were not bad at all wish they would not have pressured you to do that Was she having any symptoms? Just curious how much was it for liver biopsy? See the reason is why i do not like this is the incision is much larger, much more stressful on dog and now once you get the results either way what is going to change in treatment? Probably nothing and if they biopsied and area where it was not present the results are inconclusive anyway I just think the blood work is sufficient to how to treat the dog and this really does not do anything to help the dog and i believe the less stress on the dog the better Now shunt wise if having symptoms and over 100 then you need to determine if shunt as then you will do surgery and correct the shunt so the dog has no symptoms and quality of life as there is a corrective treatment for it but mvd there is not corrective treatment with a liver biopsy it is the same treatment you would do not having done it - just my honest opinion it is the same I feel with people who rush in to surgery for acl tears, luxating patella, and acl ruptures they scare the people into thinking they are going to have arthritis if they do not have this surgery YET the dog will have scar tissue and still get arthritis with surgery and those are rough surgeries and i have seen many dogs lift the legs even after surgery I just get bummed when dogs are pressured into surgeries that are not going to give you answers to treat differently than if no surgery. I know we want a definite diagnosis but we should only do it if it is going to help the dog I am only stating this for others contemplating the liver biopsy as i know at this point it is done with your baby |
02-12-2010, 02:18 PM | #28 |
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| when dex kept getting sick for a year with ibd and pancreatitis they were not sure what was going on so the last time we all agreed probably ibd due to potato in diet as we had switched around a few foods. So she says let's scope him and get a definite diagnosis and i said well if you scope him and get a diagnosis how will you treat him and she said well ultimately getting the right diet for him and i said is there a risk for scoping and she said yes as they biopsy intestines and it can damage intestines but it is rare. She also said if food does not work then we will not give him meds unless we have a firm diagnosis so I said what other foods can we try because you are not scoping him putting him through this after he has been through so much and he cannot take steroids due to pancreatitis issue so why put him through this so we opted for purina ha and he has been fine for 4 years. I was not going to put dex through this to just tell me it is ibd when i already know he vomits his food up whole so he obviously has ibd in small intestines -I did not need them to do a scoping to tell me this - i just think the tend to test more than what is necessary for their own curiosity when it really is not going to help the dog. Scoping dex would have done nothing to help Dexter and there was a risk of doing it so why would i put him through it yet internal medicine wanted me to do this After going through so much I have now learned that i will make the ultimate decision for them and not be pressured into things i do not think make sense to me |
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