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Old 02-11-2010, 09:54 AM   #1
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My Chloe was spayed and had a liver biopsy on Tuesday and has yet to poop since... I am starting to get worried, is this normal? I figured if she still doesnt poop today I would call the vet but I am starting to get nervous and figured I would ask here first.

She is eating very little... she will only eat a few kibble and then I give her some baby food, so maybe this is part of the problem.

She just appears so miserable, she has barely moved out of her crate since I brought her home tuesday night.
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My Chloe was spayed and had a liver biopsy on Tuesday and has yet to poop since... I am starting to get worried, is this normal? I figured if she still doesnt poop today I would call the vet but I am starting to get nervous and figured I would ask here first.

She is eating very little... she will only eat a few kibble and then I give her some baby food, so maybe this is part of the problem.

She just appears so miserable, she has barely moved out of her crate since I brought her home tuesday night.
The Anesthesia wreaks havoc on there little bodies, and with not much going in there is not much to come out. Since there was a biopsy involved I would call the Vet and see what they say before doing anything. Keeping that in mind I also would not freak out that she has not gone yet it has only been two days. The first time I took Milo into the NYC (we live in the burbs) it took him two days just to get used to no grass before he pooped. Good Luck try not to worry
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My Chloe was spayed and had a liver biopsy on Tuesday and has yet to poop since... I am starting to get worried, is this normal? I figured if she still doesnt poop today I would call the vet but I am starting to get nervous and figured I would ask here first.

She is eating very little... she will only eat a few kibble and then I give her some baby food, so maybe this is part of the problem.

She just appears so miserable, she has barely moved out of her crate since I brought her home tuesday night.
Please don't give baby food, it use to be ok, but many manufactures have started adding onions to improve the test. Onions are ok for human babies, but can be deadly to dogs. If she's not eating a lot, she may not have enough in her intestines to poop. Many people recommend adding 1 tsp of pumpkin for either diarrhea or constipation. It has lots of fiber, and is good for intestines. Use regular canned pumpkin, not the pumpkin pie filling, it has too much sugar and other things. You don't need to give the whole can, it's a good idea to freeze the rest; it will grow moldy if left in refrigerator a couple of weeks. I know this through personal experience.

Hope Chloe recovers soon, why the liver biopsy, do they suspect Liver shunt?
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Thanks Guys!

Nancy, I know about the onions... I only feed sweet potato or banana as those two have no onions... they also dont have much nutritional value but I only use it when a dog wont eat anything else.

They suspect MVD... although the doc said her liver looked really good, so now we just wait for the results. I dont know at this point I am kind of wishing I didnt do the biopsy, the incision is so large and she just seems so miserable, but I guess it is best we know for sure.
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Nancy, I know about the onions... I only feed sweet potato or banana as those two have no onions... they also dont have much nutritional value but I only use it when a dog wont eat anything else.

They suspect MVD... although the doc said her liver looked really good, so now we just wait for the results. I dont know at this point I am kind of wishing I didnt do the biopsy, the incision is so large and she just seems so miserable, but I guess it is best we know for sure.
Oh good, I would think the banana and sweet potato would have lots of fiber, unless they took all that out, and made it a soup. I imagine she's feeling bad because of the incision, and when that feels better, she'll eat and poop. The good news is that the liver looked good, I don't know anything about Liver Shunt, but I'm glad the liver looked good, maybe someone else can tell you WHY it's important to do the biopsy.
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Ellie had the same thing done with the four(ish) inch incision.
We still don't know what's wrong with her liver, btw.

It's only been two days and she was fasted before surgery, so the no pooping wouldn't be a huge concern to me right now. If you are concerned, call the vet. The very little eating after two days may be an issue. I'd maybe give it a little more time, but she should start feeling better very soon.

Is she on pain meds?
Are her gums pink?
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I took my Pixie in yesterday because she was biting at her back end all night and crying a little. The vet said she had a large poop in her and that if id didn't come out in 24 hours he would give her an enema. I came home gave her canned pumpkin and about 6 7 hours later she pooped!! So I recommend the pumpkin. When my Cali was spayed 4 years ago she was in heat and they thought she had a bowel obstruction and she needed a liver biopsy. It definately took her a little longer to get back to normal but after about 5 days she was back to normal. Hope Chloe feels better soon.
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It wouldn't hurt to give her some chicken or turkey (meat only, no dinner mixes) baby food (check the label for onions, last time I looked, there were none) as she could use some protein to help her repair and recover. Nutrical supplement may help also. Cottage cheese is also a good source of easily digestible protein, and most like it. (2 tsp to start) Gentle massage may help as it will stimulate blood flow and may make her feel better. Be sure she's in a warm area, maybe offer a spot on a heating pad set on low with a towel doubled over it, and check her often.
You can also mix water in with the baby food if she's not drinking enough.
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Here's some information on baby foods and onions, I guess it just effects the meat baby foods.

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Recently, Gerber began to add onion powder to all its meat baby foods. They are labeled as "better tasting. . . . The toxic effect of the onions are the same whether the product is raw, cooked or dehydrated. The hemolytic episode usually occurs several days after onion ingestion (lowest hematocrit around day 5 post ingestion). Daily feeding of onions could have a cumulative effect due to ongoing formation of Heinz bodies versus a single exposure with a wide gap until the next exposure, allowing the bone marrow time to regenerate the prematurely destroyed red cells. WARNING! Onions Are Toxic to Dogs
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Here's some information on baby foods and onions, I guess it just effects the meat baby foods.
Don't they have to list it as an ingredient? Thanks, I wasn't aware of this, I thought it was involving the mixed varieties.
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Please don't give baby food, it use to be ok, but many manufactures have started adding onions to improve the test. Onions are ok for human babies, but can be deadly to dogs. If she's not eating a lot, she may not have enough in her intestines to poop. Many people recommend adding 1 tsp of pumpkin for either diarrhea or constipation. It has lots of fiber, and is good for intestines. Use regular canned pumpkin, not the pumpkin pie filling, it has too much sugar and other things. You don't need to give the whole can, it's a good idea to freeze the rest; it will grow moldy if left in refrigerator a couple of weeks. I know this through personal experience.

Hope Chloe recovers soon, why the liver biopsy, do they suspect Liver shunt?
I freeze my pumkin as well and I put it in ice cube trays and make them into icecubes then I take them out and put them in a zip loc bag in the freezer.
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Don't they have to list it as an ingredient? Thanks, I wasn't aware of this, I thought it was involving the mixed varieties.
Yes, reading the label will give you the best information, but baby food is often recommended, and this sounds like something new, I think it may only effect Gerber's food, but I'm not sure. The effect is cumulative, so giving it once wouldn't be a problem or the dog wouldn't show any symptoms, but over time, it could affect a dog, and a dog that was already sick might have even more difficulties.
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I freeze my pumkin as well and I put it in ice cube trays and make them into icecubes then I take them out and put them in a zip loc bag in the freezer.
Thanks for the tip, I think having pumpkin around is a good thing!
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I just called them, as I routinely use their foods to medicate my pups as needed. The lady said all their meat foods were reformulated and the onion powder was removed in 1996, and all ingredients are listed on the label. Funny, she asked if I had a kitty, and I never mentioned my concern was with onions being toxic to dogs. 1-800-4-GERBER
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I just called them, as I routinely use their foods to medicate my pups as needed. The lady said all their meat foods were reformulated and the onion powder was removed in 1996, and all ingredients are listed on the label. Funny, she asked if I had a kitty, and I never mentioned my concern was with onions being toxic to dogs. 1-800-4-GERBER
So much for "new" information on the web, thanks for telling me this, I've been so worried when people mention baby foods. The web page I linked said "These pages are © 1998-2000"
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