Open Season on Cops

[EarthAngel]

Judy, you asked where are the government officials are during all of this mayhem? Last I heard the President is in Alaska changing the name of a mountain and the Atty. General...who knows! They are like deer in the headlights. Not one word from anyone.

I am so sorry to hear of yet another Police Officer dying. Prayers for his family.

[Yorkiemom1]

Well, I guess it is on......

I have been talking to my cousin about going into the flight department with HPD....flying the helicopters. But he loves interacting with the public....he is just the kind of cop that will end up getting shot and killed by some cop hating thug.....they are considering putting two officers in a car again...they do that when the idiot thugs go on rampages and start advocating murdering police officers. I would be their WORST nightmare if I was an officer.....they just think they have seen crazy cops!!!.....I am sorry but there is not a rampaging, vulgar, hate-filled thug alive that I am willing to die for.......

[maxdog]

The police have a very dangerous job but not just from the crazies in the world. A Michigan State trooper on a motorcycle was struck by a 70 year old man (who did not even realize he hit him) and dragged 4.3 miles under a trailer the man was pulling. He died within 24 hours.

[yorkietalkjilly]

Our DOJ and Commander in Chief have got to work together to start to bring this cop-hating portion of our citizenry into a better understanding and appreciation of just what cops do for this country - for all of us, our parents, brother and sisters and kids. Our President could strongly request and personally ask for the help of our rock and rap stars, putting all the weight of his presidency and legacy on the line.

Without a vibrant police force, we would literally have chaos and anarchy in our streets and no one would be safe in our homes or going to work, school, shopping or church. Why aren't those protesting groups meeting with fatherless and motherless kids and teens several times a week and helping them, making real connections with those hopeless kids and giving them some help, a job for those old enough to work and individual hope rather than raging in the streets over cops? Where are Bieber, Taylor Swift, RGIII, Eminem, PDiddy, Richard Sherman, Beastie Boys, Jay - Z, his wife, Tom Brady, the Gronk, Matt Damon, Beyonce and Kanye, Snoop Dogg, Ben Affleck, Miley, Nicki Minaj and other stars - all worth hundreds of millions of dollars individually - who could take time from their busy travel and party schedules to give back in a meaningful way - not just throw $$$ at the problem but actually meet one-on-one with these kids, give them honest personal time, give them jobs, pay for schooling, decent clothes, breakfast/dinner and hope for a real future? Just knowing someone they admire personally cares about them could make a huge difference if they had hope of a future.

Bet a task force a President many of their older brothers and family voted for, an organization formed to actually help them, consisting of those stars and even professional athletes that younger kids and teens admire and even envy, would be a powerful force for change if only those wealthy, entitled elites would PERSONALLY get involved face-to-face - not throw $ at the problem and go on about their lives but get personally involved. If only they would actually put themselves out there on that wall - like they expect out cops to do while many of those very music stars "sing" rap songs they sell for personal profit that utterly demean and vilify our police force - who are out there standing on that wall IN PERSON, dealing with these kids face-to-face every single day, to keep us safe, their careers in always jeopardy if they misjudge any situation, same as we all misjudge situations at times of stress and violence when our very lives are on the line.

[OwnedByJezebel]

And now there is this one, an off-duty Abilene, TX cop found dead in his home this morning under suspicious circumstances:

Police: Off-duty Abilene officer found dead, death 'suspicious' | News - Home

I've head additional info on this one that is rumor at this time so I won't repeat it here. If true, it chills me to the bone.

[yorkietalkjilly]

Wonder how the President, PC pundits and cop-haters would react if some of our more political cops and their supporters exercised their freedom of speech and marched down urban streets yelling and carrying signs touting "Fry All Anarchists" and "What Do We Want To happen To Happen To All Cop-haters? Death! When Do We Want it? Want It Now!".

[Yorkiemom1]

Originally Posted by yorkietalkjilly

Wonder how the President, PC pundits and cop-haters would react if some of our more political cops and their supporters exercised their freedom of speech and marched down urban streets yelling and carrying signs touting "Fry All Anarchists" and "What Do We Want To happen To Happen To All Cop-haters? Death! When Do We Want it? Want It Now!".

OMG!!!! The country would come to a screeching halt!! All the politicians that have remained quiet as church mice, hiding in the shadows playing like they are taking care of business, and the President and all his minions.....maybe THAT would possibly bring them out from their little busy hiding places, busy re-naming mountains while the streets, side walks, cities, and countryside of America are being overthrown by fist pumping, sign carrying, savage chanting of hatred and anarchy, public promoting of slaughtering police officers with absolutely no fear of condemnation by any of the people in charge of this country.....we have been warned this was going to happen, for YEARS, by our own senior citizens....and indeed it seems the warnings are coming to pass.

Can you just imagine what would happen if mobs of people came out and actually chanted " "Fry All Anarchists" and "What Do We Want To happen? To Happen To All Cop-haters/Cop Killers? Death! When Do We Want it? Want It Now!". THAT would bring the politicians out of their "busy" little schedules!!! BUT, in defense of all the cop haters I am certain! I heard the president CALLED the officers wife and expressed his condolences to her privately.....WHY?? WHY privately?? WHY not out front and center, like he did for others that felt they had been attacked and killed "unjustly"by police officers? Where is he, defiantly condemning the cop haters, the fist pumping mobs, threatening death to police officers? Boy, I dont know about anyone else, but I am feeling "real safe" about now.......NOT!!! And now, they want to take our guns????!!!!!

The outpouring of love and respect and honor for that officer, Officer Goforth, is inspirational. Civilized, law abiding citizens of all races, nationalities, weeping and gathering and honoring that officer, PEACEFUL gatherings, PEACEFUL demonstrations of civility and love and honor and respect, displayed by thousands and thousands of people...people that knew him, people he had interacted with as he patrolled the streets, people he interacted with in grocery stores, law abiding citizens that have love and respect for these men that will unselfishly throw themselves between any of us and the ones coming after us.......amazing and very gratifying to witness how the throngs of people are actually being civilized and respectful.....amazing and so gratifying to see how civilized people know how to conduct themselves in the face of adversity. Unfortunately, it would seem civility and respect and sane commitment to a cause, is not heard and does not garner support and respect from "the people in charge".....it is indeed "the squeeky wheel that is oiled"....

[OwnedByJezebel]

A HCSO deputy reported that yesterday, as he was filling up his patrol car, a stranger walked up to him and said "I've got your back." Then the man stood there in the parking lot and scanned all around to be sure the deputy was safe. The deputy went in to buy something and the stranger didn't leave until the deputy was back in his patrol car and back on the road.

We had a situation here yesterday when a high speed chase that started in Houston ended about a mile from my house. I didn't realize anything was going down until I heard helicopters and went outside and saw police and news helicopters hovering stationary practically over my house.

Click2houston had the last 20 minutes on video (they've taken that down now). At the point where the chase ended, Hwy 59 chokes down to two lanes and it really backs up, so he had nowhere to go and decided to drive into a construction area in the median (current project to widen the highway) in the dirt. I thought he was going to mow down some construction workers. He finally ditched the car and jumped a barrier and ran across the northbound lanes and around a business (barefoot and having trouble keeping his pants up) then ended up outside of a nursing home where a couple was unloading a van. A white jeep came into the picture and not long after the guy stopped running and laid down on the concrete on his stomach with his arms and legs spread out. The on-air announcers were wondering if he gave up because he was exhausted and couldn't run anymore. It was just weird because the police were not even close to him. Maybe 20 seconds later the police got there and they cuffed him and put him into the patrol car without incident.

Today I found out that he stopped running because there was a guy in that white jeep who saw the all the police cars on the freeway and this guy running and was afraid that the fugitive was going to do something to the couple unloading the van, perhaps carjack them or something to continue his spree. He yelled out to the perp that he had a concealed carry license and he had a gun and knew how to use it. Told the perp to get down on the ground and he did. Another law-abiding citizen with a CHL that was able to stop a bad guy.

[Yorkiemom1]

Originally Posted by OwnedByJezebel

A HCSO deputy reported that yesterday, as he was filling up his patrol car, a stranger walked up to him and said "I've got your back." Then the man stood there in the parking lot and scanned all around to be sure the deputy was safe. The deputy went in to buy something and the stranger didn't leave until the deputy was back in his patrol car and back on the road.

We had a situation here yesterday when a high speed chase that started in Houston ended about a mile from my house. I didn't realize anything was going down until I heard helicopters and went outside and saw police and news helicopters hovering stationary practically over my house.

Click2houston had the last 20 minutes on video (they've taken that down now). At the point where the chase ended, Hwy 59 chokes down to two lanes and it really backs up, so he had nowhere to go and decided to drive into a construction area in the median (current project to widen the highway) in the dirt. I thought he was going to mow down some construction workers. He finally ditched the car and jumped a barrier and ran across the northbound lanes and around a business (barefoot and having trouble keeping his pants up) then ended up outside of a nursing home where a couple was unloading a van. A white jeep came into the picture and not long after the guy stopped running and laid down on the concrete on his stomach with his arms and legs spread out. The on-air announcers were wondering if he gave up because he was exhausted and couldn't run anymore. It was just weird because the police were not even close to him. Maybe 20 seconds later the police got there and they cuffed him and put him into the patrol car without incident.

Today I found out that he stopped running because there was a guy in that white jeep who saw the all the police cars on the freeway and this guy running and was afraid that the fugitive was going to do something to the couple unloading the van, perhaps carjack them or something to continue his spree. He yelled out to the perp that he had a concealed carry license and he had a gun and knew how to use it. Told the perp to get down on the ground and he did. Another law-abiding citizen with a CHL that was able to stop a bad guy.

I SAW this!!! WOW!! Wasnt this super!! Civilized people are getting tired of being victimized by ner-do-wells!!! Good for the man that stopped the thug!!

I am just seeing on the news the total donations collected at just the service station alone, is amounting to a little over $90,000.00, in addition to over $100,000.00 collected on the go-fund-me-site. What a wonderful thing for that family....out pouring of love by so many people, especially from the community that officer lived and worked in.

[yorkietalkjilly]

Originally Posted by Yorkiemom1

OMG!!!! The country would come to a screeching halt!! All the politicians that have remained quiet as church mice, hiding in the shadows playing like they are taking care of business, and the President and all his minions.....maybe THAT would possibly bring them out from their little busy hiding places, busy re-naming mountains while the streets, side walks, cities, and countryside of America are being overthrown by fist pumping, sign carrying, savage chanting of hatred and anarchy, public promoting of slaughtering police officers with absolutely no fear of condemnation by any of the people in charge of this country.....we have been warned this was going to happen, for YEARS, by our own senior citizens....and indeed it seems the warnings are coming to pass.

Can you just imagine what would happen if mobs of people came out and actually chanted " "Fry All Anarchists" and "What Do We Want To happen? To Happen To All Cop-haters/Cop Killers? Death! When Do We Want it? Want It Now!". THAT would bring the politicians out of their "busy" little schedules!!! BUT, in defense of all the cop haters I am certain! I heard the president CALLED the officers wife and expressed his condolences to her privately.....WHY?? WHY privately?? WHY not out front and center, like he did for others that felt they had been attacked and killed "unjustly"by police officers? Where is he, defiantly condemning the cop haters, the fist pumping mobs, threatening death to police officers? Boy, I dont know about anyone else, but I am feeling "real safe" about now.......NOT!!! And now, they want to take our guns????!!!!!

The outpouring of love and respect and honor for that officer, Officer Goforth, is inspirational. Civilized, law abiding citizens of all races, nationalities, weeping and gathering and honoring that officer, PEACEFUL gatherings, PEACEFUL demonstrations of civility and love and honor and respect, displayed by thousands and thousands of people...people that knew him, people he had interacted with as he patrolled the streets, people he interacted with in grocery stores, law abiding citizens that have love and respect for these men that will unselfishly throw themselves between any of us and the ones coming after us.......amazing and very gratifying to witness how the throngs of people are actually being civilized and respectful.....amazing and so gratifying to see how civilized people know how to conduct themselves in the face of adversity. Unfortunately, it would seem civility and respect and sane commitment to a cause, is not heard and does not garner support and respect from "the people in charge".....it is indeed "the squeeky wheel that is oiled"....

Just wondered how they would like some of their own medicine forcefed to them for a change!!!! Marching crowds carrying incendiary signs and chanting for THEIR violent deaths. They and all like-minded pundits would all just fall over in a faint as they think the first amendment gives only them the right to protest and say anything they feel like saying, however irresponsible.

You are so right, Judy, compared with the cop-haters, that Officer Goforth march of honor was kind-hearted, respectful and beautiful.

[Yorkiemom1]

Some police departments have re-instituted two officers per car....I hope they do that here in Houston/Texas....That poor officer that was going to retire at the end of the month, gave chase to 3 men and they murdered him, stole his belt/gun/etc, and have now disappeared. Praying they catch them before they kill another innocent soul.....they are "cop killers" now with nothing to loose....what big loss is another innocent person that stumbles in their pathway.....

[ColesMommy01]

It seems like it's been open season on minorities since...forever. It's terrible when a police officer is killed for just doing their job. I have a family member who's the first female sheriff of her town and would be devastated if something happened to her. With that being said....

There are some hateful, racist, disgusting sorry excuses for human beings who think just because they carry a badge and are "trained" (some very poorly I might add) to use a weapon in circumstances where they feel "threatened" they should shoot first and figure out what's REALLY going on later.

I'm Afro Caribbean my husband is Cuban our son is mixed. I'm on pins and needles for when my son is older and will be labeled a threat by law enforcement agencies just based on the color of his skin. They'll shoot my child for reaching for his insurance info if he gets pulled over for something as simple as not using his turn signal, but allow a white male to walk down a busy street carrying a visable weapon with just a few questions asked and let the white male carry on while my kid will be in a morgue.

I'm law abiding, but gawd forbid I get pulled over for some perceived infraction from the police. I do not want to end up like Freddy Gray or Sandra Bland.


I would be paranoid and fearful ESPECIALLY if I had my child with me. Individuals are always stating that if you're not doing anything wrong you have no reason to not trust the police/law enforcement. Usually this comes from those who've never had discrimination hit close to home and I'll be damned if I allow someone badge or not hurt my child while I'm still living and so help me if I'm dead I'll come back from the grave and find a way to get whoever was stupid enough to touch him.

We're not asking for special treatment, We're asking that law enforcement have better training, use fatal shots as a last resort, and treat our lives as if they matter.

#blacklivesmatter

[ironmike86]

Originally Posted by ColesMommy01

It seems like it's been open season on minorities since...forever. It's terrible when a police officer is killed for just doing their job. I have a family member who's the first female sheriff of her town and would be devastated if something happened to her. With that being said....

There are some hateful, racist, disgusting sorry excuses for human beings who think just because they carry a badge and are "trained" (some very poorly I might add) to use a weapon in circumstances where they feel "threatened" they should shoot first and figure out what's REALLY going on later.

I'm Afro Caribbean my husband is Cuban our son is mixed. I'm on pins and needles for when my son is older and will be labeled a threat by law enforcement agencies just based on the color of his skin. They'll shoot my child for reaching for his insurance info if he gets pulled over for something as simple as not using his turn signal, but allow a white male to walk down a busy street carrying a visable weapon with just a few questions asked and let the white male carry on while my kid will be in a morgue.

I'm law abiding, but gawd forbid I get pulled over for some perceived infraction from the police. I do not want to end up like Freddy Gray or Sandra Bland.


I would be paranoid and fearful ESPECIALLY if I had my child with me. Individuals are always stating that if you're not doing anything wrong you have no reason to not trust the police/law enforcement. Usually this comes from those who've never had discrimination hit close to home and I'll be damned if I allow someone badge or not hurt my child while I'm still living and so help me if I'm dead I'll come back from the grave and find a way to get whoever was stupid enough to touch him.

We're not asking for special treatment, We're asking that law enforcement have better training, use fatal shots as a last resort, and treat our lives as if they matter.

#blacklivesmatter

Its how you react when your stopped. I carry a firearm wherever I go. Cops never say anything to me. Why. I'm not attracting attention and I'm not breaking the law. I'm not a white man

[Yorkiemom1]

My brother and I are white ....years ago, like back early 70s, he was in a car with 4 other young men....(my brother and I have been raised to respect adults, period! That includes police officers....we have never sassed our parents or most certainly no other adult, especially anyone in authority, always "yes ma'am" and "no ma'am")..... The car was pulled over and the two officers told the boys to get out of the car....two of the boys were black.....they did EXACTLY as instructed.....spoke only when spoken to, never assumed belligerent or challenging posture or attitude......no sassy, "dont disrespect me" attitude displayed by any of these boys.....the police detained them for over 40 minutes because the light on the license plate was burned out....they were patted down, the officers COMPLETELY disassembled the car, took the seats out, pulled the carpet up, etc!!! and then when they were satisfied this car load of polite young men had nothing on them or in the car, they left them there alone to put the car back together, in the dark ....

One of the problems today, people do not think they have to tolerate being stopped by the police for ANY reason....it is REAL common for a lot of them to immediately start getting sassy or start challenging the officer for stopping them. They start trying to outline what THEIR "rights" are....."I dont have to do this, I dont have to do that", I aint doing that and you cant make me"..... NOT smart.....answer questions asked, be polite and not indignant.....these people, regardless how "right" they think they are, just need to do as you are told, stay civil, and then fight it in court. You have no idea what that officer just ran into or dealt with 30 minutes before he stopped you. But it runs against alot of people's grain to even consider being respectful to an officer....they cop an attitude, get jiggy, start hollering, threatening, may even bolt and run, simply because they think they are too important to have to deal with the police.....they consider the police and that particular encounter, an "infringement" on their "self importance" and time. People need to realize they are not one bit more important than the police officer or anyone else....act like you respect the officer and you will like wise be respected.

The number of way ward, outlaw officers on any given police force is negligible, especially when compared to the number of law breakers running the streets. Every single police officer has just as much right to expect to be safe when encountering individuals, as those individuals have. Problems arise when people dont follow instructions, break and run, get smart mouthed, start yelling and cussing and throw out attitude, start reaching inside jackets or pockets or purses or under seats.....regardless of what color or nationality you are, just treat that officer like you would want him to treat you....treat them with respect and be polite and do as asked/told/instructed to do, without getting an attitude. You treat these officers with the same respect and fairness that you expect from them, and there will be no issues. You have a problem with the stop or the officer, just take his name (not all "up in your face, hollering, screaming, threatening and spitting, I will sue you and the entire State" attitude)and then take care of the issue you have when you get your lawyer to fight the ticket the officer issues you.

Police officers have every much a right to expect to conduct a safe encounter as anyone that is stopped has the right to a safe interaction with that officer. Respect gains respect....if you instill in your kids the notion that police officers are out to get them or do them harm if they are ever stopped, that is deliberately setting up a bad situation. As long as people treat officers with respect, they have no problems...but that seems to be the issue now days....people seem to think police are the enemy, do not "deserve" respect, and should be sassed, disrespected, and they instigate foul mouthed encounters with them, then get all "Man hey what happened???" attitude when the officer addresses their bad behavior. As far as waiting until they can ascertain that the person with his hand in his waistband, is not going to pull out a gun and shoot him.....that police officer has just as much right to live as the person they are encountering....if you are stopped by an officer, and they are telling you to keep your hands up, and you are full of attitude and loud mouthed belligerence and reaching inside your jacket, or pants, or purse, or under the car seat, you can pretty well expect to get shot, with a gun or a taser, as well you should be....your life is not one drop of blood more important than the officer's life is.....dont instigate a situation where you might get shot, and you wont get shot. THAT is what I teach my own son....especially, statistically a fact, since there are more of our white sons shot by police officers than black sons, my son has been taught not to fear police, but how to be respectful and follow instructions and do EXACTLY what you are told to do, when you are told to do it, if you are ever in an encounter with an officer.

#policelivesmatterequally

[ColesMommy01]

But how many Caucasians are pulled over, patted down, cars disassembled for "routine" traffic stops versus nonwhites? By all means law enforcement should do their jobs effectively and to the best of their abilities, but if their perceptions are already clouded by the prejudgement that the nonwhite individual is a threat how effective can they really do their jobs???

Tbh what a cop goes through before interacting with me shouldn't have anything to do with how he treats me. I'm a wife, mother, and nurse. If my husband and son do something to annoy me should I take it out on one of my patients because of what someone else did? No, I think not. We're all hunan, make mistakes, not perfect but those in law enforcement professions need to have better training and not use the fatal measures as their first line of defense if other options are available.

If I get pulled over, I'm trying to go on about my business as quickly as possible. Giving "attitude", "sass", or whatever you think, is the furthest thing on my mind.


My son isn't taught to fear police, but he is taught his history which unfortunately includes police brutality. I will say a lot of children no matter what ethnicity are not taught to have respect for any authority figures which can elevate certain situations.

I'm not excusing that individual in Texas actions if they shot the police officer while he was pumping gas(seems cowardly and inhumane) ESPECIALLY with no provocation.

Do you happen to have a link with the statistics of the number of whites being killed by police vs non whites? I'd like to discuss it on another board I'm a member of.