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09-03-2015, 03:49 AM | #46 |
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| Among the first 500 deaths, 49.6% of people were white, 28.2% were black and 14.8% were Hispanic/Latino. According to the 2013 census, the US population is 62.6% white, 13.2% black and 17.1% Hispanic/Latino. The Counted: number of people killed by police this year reaches 500 | US news | The Guardian You can search and find many places. But when you factor years and gang related activity. Theres more minority gangs. The 1,217 deadly police shootings from 2010 to 2012 captured in the federal data show that blacks, age 15 to 19, were killed at a rate of 31.17 per million, while just 1.47 per million white males in that age range died at the hands of police. |
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09-03-2015, 04:34 AM | #47 |
YT 1000 Club Member | Black Americans killed by police twice as likely to be unarmed as white people | US news | The Guardian Thanks for the link Ironmike. The link I provided is the issue I have with law enforcement. The police I've had the pleasure of interacting with have been nothing but polite and respectful *knock on wood*. I personally don't think it's "open season" on police officers because there's not as much media attention and action being taken as one would like. If that were the case the same thing could be said about the recent massacre at the African American church (unprovoked and the suspect was taken to get fast food before being booked) or the issue concerning the pregnant Native woman who was shot and killed(officer was let off even though it was proven he had other weapons that were nonfatal and could have been used. She did have a knife and was standing more than a few feet away). |
09-04-2015, 08:35 AM | #48 |
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| Always remember, unarmed doesn't mean a person is not highly, even lethally, dangerous when its your life and limb at risk. Do the statistics say how many of those unarmed were totally in compliance with police orders at the time of the shooting or how many were in the act of resisting arrest, threatening or trying to assault the cop or another person or child when shot? Am I wrong or are haven't most of the cop shootings publicized on TV within the last 2 years happened after the unarmed person was thought to be threatening with a weapon, in the act of resisting the cop or trying to assault the officer who shot?
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09-04-2015, 11:26 AM | #49 |
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| It was a stunning, beautiful funeral this am for our Deputy Goforth here in Houston. His poor, pitiful wife, stunned and in shock, was awestruck at the massive outpouring of love and honor for her husband.....frequently placing her hand over her broken heart.... Clearly such a moving memorial in honor of her husband.....by officers from all over the United States..... I pray this is a turning point for the good in this country, for all the officers that throw themselves between we the innocent, and the crooks, thieves, murderers, and haters that are now actively prowling the streets, espousing hatred and vile contempt for civilized behavior and rule of law. I think there are, at this moment in time, more good, honest, civilized, law abiding citizens on the streets than there are hostile, hate filled thugs, inciting and declaring civil war against police and law abiding citizens, but God only knows how much longer that will be fact. Chanting and singing for the outright murder and maiming of police officers, can not and should not be tolerated. THIS is NOT freedom of speech....this is inciting riots....this is yelling "fire" in a crowded theater..... This contempt and hatred for civilized behavior and rule of law, by the minority, can not be accepted as the norm, in a civilized country. I can only just imagine what would happen if the majority of citizens in this country, hit the streets chanting such sing-song hatred against the thugs and the lawless citizens, if the civilized majority took up marching and inciting riotous behavior and demanding some kind of horrible, cruel death to these thugs that are inciting civil disobedience and murder to police officers......barbaric, sing song rhyming "oink, oink, bang, bang", actually encouraging lawless idiots to murder policemen.....These "pigs" are all that is standing between civilized people and these lawless thugs, and if they DO ever manage to actually "rid civilization of the 'pigs'", rest assured these thugs are going to be coming after each of US, our homes, our families, what we have,.... we will be next because these lawless thugs know no boundaries and, in THEIR own warped sense, what YOU have actually belongs to THEM and they will be coming after it, etc .... We just can not let this evil overthrow civilized behavior in this country. The majority of the rest of the entire world has deteriorated into fighting, brutality, murderous, cruel, hedonistic, uncivilized carnage....THAT can not be allowed to happen in this country. The lawless brutality, the hedonistic rioting and civil disobedience can not be portrayed and accepted as "the rule of law" in this country......that lawless behavior can not be tolerated, and I am prayerful that there will be a growing empowerment from civil, law abiding citizens, and that this uncivilized, hedonistic, barbaric behavior will NOT be tolerated, by the civilized people in this country. We had all better stand up and declare that this is indeed enough....no more will be tolerated..... or each one of us will be over run by the lawlessness and contemptuous hatred for civility these gangsters, zealots, and thuggery are flagrantly displaying with absolutely NO reprimand from their own compatriots of like but more civilized, law abiding minds. |
09-04-2015, 01:37 PM | #50 |
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| Amen, Yorkiemom1. The thin blue line that separates us from anarchy is fragile, but I think a sleeping giant has been awakened. It was a very moving service, and the look on his wife's and daughter's face was heartbreaking indeed. I don't know how one moves on from something like this, but they don't have a choice. They did catch the cretin thugs (a husband and wife) that killed the off-duty Amarillo officer in his home.
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09-04-2015, 03:31 PM | #51 |
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| Received a word of caution this evening from several police friends/family....I am instructed/strongly encouraged to remove any and all bumper stickers, window decals, etc...anything that signifies I have any police officers in my family, or that I support any police department, remove these decals of honor or symbolic decals of respect and devotion and support, because apparently street word is, automobiles and people displaying such stickers are going to be targets for harm and rebellion from those that want to do harm to our officers/family members. So.............now while the rebel in me says "bring it on", my police officer family members say, "dont wave a red flag in a bull's face....this is not a game....you are challenging thugs that could care less if you live or die and they will walk up totally unprovoked and blow you away....this is no game or joke.....remove the stickers until we can get some control over this".......so I guess I will begin to remove any and all decals denoting support for the police or that I have members in my family that are police.....this, in America.......unbelievable. |
09-04-2015, 05:07 PM | #52 |
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| Unbelievable is an understatement. This would affect all those that put a line of blue painter's tape across their back glass or have a 100 club sticker.
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09-04-2015, 05:21 PM | #53 |
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| Sums it up. How ppl feel about the Black Panthers saying they will creep up and kills cops. Forgot the guys name who said that a week before the killing. He may have not meant it. Because they arent saying anything now that I have read. But ppl are putting race into like they want a civil war. But mostly the extremes Last edited by ironmike86; 09-04-2015 at 05:24 PM. |
09-04-2015, 05:51 PM | #54 | |
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My son has just finished removing all police oriented decals or references from my car, including the 100 club stickers. While it absolutely enrages me that I have to do this, I can not take a chance of some fanatical idiot ambushing me and leaving my son without a mother, and I certainly could not risk him getting caught in crossfire if some rampaging thug shoots at us in the car. The man on the cover of that (ironmikes) magazine is the one that was parading up and down a line of armed thugs, chanting, "oink, oink, bang, bang....".... Last edited by Yorkiemom1; 09-04-2015 at 05:54 PM. | |
09-04-2015, 06:06 PM | #55 |
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| There's fanatics in all races. I'm not a Blackman but in the 80s I new some black panthers..they were decent men and there ideas weren't fantical. Then there's the ppl who prey on the young ppl who are still searching who they are. Arian nation whatever. Fanatics. The good ppl like us just get caught in the mix. But I try to stay the grey man. I wouldn't want to unleash the beast.. I maybe get caught up and leave my babies |
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09-05-2015, 05:46 AM | #57 |
YT 1000 Club Member | From what I've studied the Black Panther mindset currently is completely different than what it was when first developed. Do all Black Panthers support killing police officers? No! But there are always going to be extremist in any group whether it's the Black Panthers, animal rights activists, etc. I had no idea they were advising people to remove law enforcement support paraphernalia. I honestly don't know and won't guess what a police officer may consider threatening behavior. I've seen videos where non whites are doing things and are shot whereas a white person does the same, is not shot, and is somewhat treated like a "buddy" or child. It comes across as people justifying unwarranted law enforcement behavior, but when an innocent cop is killed individuals want justice NOW. Where was the justice with the pregnant Native woman, Sandra Bland, Treyvon, Freddy Gray, etc? Law enforcement need better training, period. People need to stop making excuses, period. From my understanding the Black Panthers are taking their stance because they see law enforcement treating the black community unjustly(killings, arrest,etc). Where's the public upset for that? Maybe it's just a culture/ideal clash because I am part of the minority who is often targeted, and *some* of you are not. You wouldn't understand the depth of the problem because the problem doesn't directly effect you. |
09-05-2015, 07:33 AM | #58 | |
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I think we can understand the depth of the problem, however, what I think many of us cannot understand is what it actually *feels* like if you're of a category of people who are seemingly being targeted. For example, we've heard of many outcries that young black men are being targeted (Treyvon etc)...and I can't even imagine what that must feel like...what that fear must be like.
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09-05-2015, 08:48 AM | #60 | |
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What people are doing by putting a strip across their back window is showing support for law enforcement. It's the "thin blue line" of law enforcement, because they are what separates a civilized society from anarchy. Police academies are already having trouble recruiting while others are retiring because who wants to deal with the current climate and the possibility that someone wants to execute you just because you are wearing a uniform. For those that didn't see Deputy Goforth's funeral service, his best friend, Roland (an HPD cop who had been his best friend since 4th grade) told many stories. As adults, they lived in different parts of town and it just so happened that Goforth patrolled Rolands neighborhood and Roland was assigned to patrol Roland's neighborhood. So they looked out for each other. There was a young man in Roland's neighborhood that Goforth had arrested for stealing a car. When he found out about Goforth's murder he was very upset and told Roland that Goforth was his favorite cop. One day the young man took out his cell phone camera and started taking a video of Goforth in his patrol vehicle "look what we have here, my favorite cop!" Goforth pics up his cell phone and starts to video the guy saying "a car thief, he brakes into houses." Another time Goforth walked up to the young man while he was in his car and they had another "mutual conversation on video." That young man put together a short video to honor Deputy Goforth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NT66KLXBYTY
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