LOL...there you go. Finally saying what you really think. That *I* am chasing people away. You people need to get past all that nonsense...no one person is chasing people away. They leave because they choose to.
You can say it was not directed at me all day long....you kind of cancelled that one out now. :)

As for anger...sounds to me like you are the angry one. You are certainly pushing this. I tried to avoid it but you kept at it.

How about this Jeanie? I am not going to respond to you again on this thread. Through. Finished. Done. And not angry at. all. SMH

Don't be paranoid, Linda. Still not directed solely at you - merely showing an example of what kind of thing drives people away and inhibits free posting by more than just a few - fear of shaming, being called out publicly or ganged up on. You don't think trying to single one person out and shame them alone publicly into changing their style of posting or wording used in asking for more respect will keep some from ever wanting to post here - those less outspoken than you or I? I do.

Well that is an hour of my life I can't get back but it was like a soap opera and I just couldn't quit reading. Think I will throw my two cents in. "Mean People Suck". Now, I wonder how many of you thought I was aiming that comment directly at them? In reality, I was not. My point is when someone makes a comment, it is not possible to know everything that is in their hearts or brains so I read every comment with the understanding that I am getting just a little piece of the overall puzzle. I will say this. When I joined this forum six months ago, there were several people whose style of commenting absolutely made me cringe. I did not run. I sat back and listened and tried to get a feel for who they were and what they were really trying to say. Some of them are now my very favorites and I have come to really listen to them when they "talk". However, not everyone will be that open-minded and I hate for us to lose the opportunity to make a positive difference in the life of a precious yorkie. I like to subscribe to the catch more flies with honey than vinegar theory. Yes, I know that does sound holier than thou and believe me I am not. I can also be a real b word when I want to be, lol. Anyway, love this forum and I agree 100% that it is not that bad or negative in the overall scheme of things.

I think it all goes back to that old people are just jealous thing. They hate us cause they ain't us :D

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You took the words exactly out of my mouth.
I had just told my husband "this reminds me of a soap opera.
I have never been on facebook or any other social media site so I have nothing to compare this to. I usually scan the new posts looking for new info. most are great! When I read this one a month or so ago my reaction was Ouch. Glad to see it go. A few days ago it reappeared and I thought "Oh no, who picked that scab?" Really many of you are quite amusing. I love your smart as_ sense of humor. At least I hope that's what it is. Really though, the best thing to do is let a dead horse lie.
Lets move on, chuckle at the whit, and stop the "right" fight.

I Love old people. My favorite movie to watch when my girls were growing up was Anne of Green Gable's and my favorite character was Rachel lynn the old lady who lived next door, she was hilarious.

Sorry should have been a comma between old and people lol

oh, I see. Still have a soft spot for the older, set in their ways, elderly folks.
The grumpy ones are even cute in my book.
I saw a post that said bumped. What does that mean?

it means moving a post to the top of the page so it does not go unnoticed. Also when some people log on they scan for new posts, so when you "bump" a post or a thread it would bring it up as a new post.

When I was young I thought I knew all the answers. We all have to accept responsibility for our posting styles. I reacted to a post yesterday and posted back and got a heated response. I had to own up to myself that my post contributed to the reply. We all are accountable for a actions and the resulting reactions.

I usually don't even remember the question anymore!

Sorry typo We all are accountable for our actions and the resulting reactions.

LOL It make life simpler doesn't it! :)

Thank You fellow Michigander!

When you sound like you you are talking down to someone it does come accross preachy and contributes to drama on a thread, Im not pointing fingers at anyone Ive just been on both sides of it, I have been preached at and I have came accross preachy and see what it does in a thread. I dont see why Anns words have to be rehashed over and over though I think everyone read the thread and understood so what is the point anyway. Anyone that thinks the underlining tone in this forum is negative needs to go to other forums. They also need to realize that there are people like me on here that have witnessed the very people accused on here of having a bad tone soften up there posting on here I have witnessed it and I give all the credit to Ann for taking charge and moderating this forum and doing her best to set the tone. But do we need more than Ann doing it dont you think she is doing a good job I do

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Exactly shes earned the respect and admiration of all members on here

I doubt any of us who stay fairly active here think YT is a negative forum - anything but - still we do hope to keep more members around and woo new ones by being a kinder, gentler though still helpful and passionate site, always advocating for our favorite animal. I've probably learned more here in 4 years than I'd learned in a lifetime of working with and reading about dogs and I've "met" so many wonderful people, most, who, like me, absolutely dote on dogs and love to share their knowledge and heart for dogs.

Admin and the Mods must feel sometimes that administering this site is like herding cats but they all do a fine job keeping it up and running smoothly and when they speak, I listen and try to shape up. I'll do anything to keep YT a vital, growing force on the web for helping Yorkies and other dogs.

Good Im glad I see all the good in the forum either someone helping out someone with a sick dog with their experience or helping someone with a training issue or just general common coming together of members on this forum. I do think we should do the best to grow this forum but i also think we have to have respect and admiration of long time members all of them and what they contribute to keep this forum vital.

Glad you didn't jump to the conclusion that none of us who want kinder, gentler, passionate posts thinks this is a negative site - just agreeing with Ann that we can make it even better.

Can't imagine how the Mods manage to stay sane - lol!

Years ago I was on a controversial thread and I said something that other members didnt like and called me out on but I didnt see the error of my way untill the moderator pmed and kindly told me I was out of line and asked me to appologize. I dont know they still may do that but if they dont I do see Ann coming on threads and making it a point to let someone know in a constructive non preachy way that I know hits a note with someone and makes them think of there actions better than if a member does it. When a member does it they just become defensive then there is drama on the thread. Ive seen that even in this thread and I am just on the outside looking in on the situation Im not taking anyones side

An apology does go along way, even if you think you were right it doesn't hurt. I don't think there's a person on here that thinks this is a negative site. Just the opposite. The knowledge and information learned here is priceless. A few ruffled feathers here and there doesn't change that. Sure we can do better here and in all aspects of our life.

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LOL I was afraid to poke my head in here on a Sunday when this thread popped to the top! Wheh! Thumbs up is a good sign! :)

I am always afraid to see what new stuff is posted on here.

My own personal experience on here is to stay away from certain topics. There is also at least one member that once they get on the thread, I bail. They do not know how to be nice to others and I have gotten into it with them so I just walk away from that thread at that point because they just say the same thing over and over and won't listen to what anyone else has to say. Once they join the thread I leave the topic because some people just will not be nice or even listen to others.

Other than that I really enjoy this forum. I honestly hope a moderator sends them a message about some of their recent posts. If anyone says anything about others being mean on a thread that person (who is being mean or rude) is the first person to whine and say "then tell a moderator about it." They obviously do not recognize themselves as being so mean and rude to us. I almost left the forum months ago because of that one person, but I stayed because for that one person I had met at least 10 that were nice.

The reason a moderator should always be told is because a non moderator trying to play moderator can start drama. It's always just easier to hit the report button then to get into an argument telling someone how to post or what they can and can not do. There is also a thing were you can select not to see certain members posts.