Saveayorkie is stealing my dog

[yorkietalkjilly]

Originally Posted by finblonde60

I was the foster mom for Tiki.
I heard about this site from Donna and decided to register to see what it was all about.
What a DISAPPOINTMENT!!! People jumping to conclusions with NO facts!
At least Donna went one step further to TRY to find out the whole story. Thank you Donna- SHAME on the rest of you! Although I did see few posts that did not fall for this fully.
I have NO desire to be part of this site. I am saving my energy and time to actually rescue dogs that need help! Sad to see Tiki go, but I have another one coming. I wish more of you would redirect your energy to do something to actually help these dogs.

We post here on what information we have at the time, wonder and muse based on some of the situation as it develops, the wording and tone and nothing about your post really changes my feelings on the subject unless you would care to explain further. We all care about dogs, too, and returning one to its home if possible would seem ideal, unless there were substantial neglect, at which point perhaps the authorities should become involved if you fear for its well-being, rather than returning it. Was the retraction fully voluntary and the owner's suggestion?

[kjc]

I'm sure as the OP posted here in a panic about not getting her dog back, that she is truly sorry for anything said in a negative light about the rescue organization. Anyone would feel the same way, IMHO. With high emotions, it's very easy to misunderstand things that anyone says to you, whether it's from a vet or from a Rescue. Whether those were her words or not, it makes no difference to me, the meaning is the same.

I can understand the Rescue wanting a retraction of her original post.... leaving a bad review is never good for business. So to request a correction is no big deal.

As for LP and vets... rescues normally have the dogs vetted before placement, so for this dog's LP to be so bad as to require surgery now is something I would be questioning. Also a second opinion with a specialist is recommended. Some vets do perform reduced pricing or free services to rescue organizations... in my heart I truly wonder if the OP wasn't being taken advantage of by a unscrupulous vet.

I have spoken to Marilyn of Save A Yorkie, though it was 3 or 4 years ago. I will say she sounded like a very passionate and loving person, who would do anything for any unfortunate pup, not only a Yorkie. Kudos to her and her group for the endless work they do!

[DBlain]

As I posted earlier so much of this thread is becoming more about how we perceive things in our mind, now more assumptions and speculations are being made.

1. The last time I had contact with new member finblonde60 was when she was nice enough to call me back to tell me after speaking with the founder of the rescue group, that the dog would be returned and vet bill would be free, that was about 10 min after I called her demanding to know why they would not return the dog.

2. I mentioned that I had read this from YT and many people were not happy. I never gave her info on how to join or asked her to join

3. I have not contacted her or asked her to post here or for more of the story.

If you read back a page or so you will see a post made by a YT member talking about the retraction I believe that post was made by the founder or one of the directors of the rescue group. Perhaps if you were not so eager to jump on me you might put two and two together and realize that the thread is most likely being discussed among the members of the group.

I made a call to help an older lady regain her dog, I found out there was more to the story and I gave it to you. How come the OP never came back in the midst of things to say I am discussing things with Save A Yorkie and that they are talking to my vet. You might say she is not computer savvy I agree but she still posses the basic skills on how to start a thread asking for help, as she did in the only two subjects she has been involved on YT.

[cindersellie]

I'd like to thank you, DBlain, for stepping up to figure out what was going on with Tiki and her owner. I really think your call made a difference.

[DBlain]

I just looked at when the tread was started and it was only a few hours before she knew she was getting her pup back, so in hind sight I am retracting my statement on she should have been back to the thread, I realize that is not much time, I guess I based that on her not returning to her other thread, LOL you know what they say about assuming things

[lisaly]

YT is a wonderful community of people who care about dogs and each other. Some of us, like me, choose to stay and become a part of this loving community and are here to help others. Other people come here seeking information and don't get actively involved.

Tiki's mom was in a desperate situation, and she came here for help. We don't know if she started the thread or had help doing it. Today with the internet, it got her the help that she needed. However, Save A Yorkie is a reputable organization, and I'm sure they would have done the right thing in this situation. However, the attention that this thread brought got her dog back to her possibly faster. I really don't know.

Tiki's mom was terrified and desperate. I don't know if I would have posted in the midst of all of this because I would be too afraid to say anything that would hurt my chances of getting my dog back.

[lynzy420]

Originally Posted by DBlain

As I posted earlier so much of this thread is more about how we perceive things in our mind, now more assumptions and speculations are being made.

1. The last time I had contact with new member finblonde60 was when she was nice enough to call me back to tell me after speaking with the founder of the rescue group the dog would be returned and vet bill would be paid, that was about 10 min after I called her demanding to know why they would not return the dog.

2. I mentioned that I had read this from YT and many people were not happy. I never gave her info on how to join or asked her to join

3. I have not contacted her or asked her to post here or for more of the story.

If you read back a page or so you will see a post made by a YT member talking about the retraction I believe that post was made by the founder or one of the directors of the rescue group. Perhaps if you were not so eager to jump on me you might put two and two together and realize that the thread is most likely being discussed among the members of the group.

I made a call to help an older lady regain her dog, I found out there was more to the story and I gave it to you. How come the OP never came back in the midst of things to say I am discussing things with Save A Yorkie and that they are talking to my vet.
You might say she is not computer savvy I agree but she still posses the basic skills on how to start a thread asking for help, as she did in the only two subjects she has been involved on YT.

I don't know why anyone would jump on you Donna or if your perceiving it that way. I commend you for taking the steps, I even suggested it to another member. Had I made the call (I couldn't at the time) to the Rescue the only thing I would have done different than you would have been to say: "I talked to someone at the Rescue, I assure you things are being worked out between both parties and any details of that would have to be shared by them". I would not have given the detail that you did. But that is me. The new poster made it "sound" as if you directed her here, but I was GLAD you had. I had hoped she would make same statement to clear, or should I say clean this up a little bit.

KJC is right in her post mostly....I think that many mistakes were made by both parties in this matter, in the heat of the moment I'm sure. I hope that the Rescue takes some knowledge from this experience as well. I admire them for what they do and am sure they are on to the next pup, lord knows their work is endless. I would hope in the future they aren't so willing to divulge such details about anyone but....

at the same time I am glad OP came here and am glad that a resolution was found, thank you again Donna for helping to bring about a resolution and hopefully some changes in procedures, because clearly there were some mistakes made on both ends. The posting of the pup for adoption being the major one...anyway, I don't want to discredit them they are awesome and are well known for their work and dedication.

[normarae63]

Originally Posted by DBlain

I just looked at when the tread was started and it was only a few hours before she knew she was getting her pup back, so in hind sight I am retracting my statement on she should have been back to the thread, I realize that is not much time, I guess I based that on her not returning to her other thread, LOL you know what they say about assuming things

AND had you not posted her very personal details that were purely hearsay perhaps that lady would've come back? Perhaps sending an apology to her would be a good step in clearing up this mess. IMO, you ran her off with that post Donna.

[MrsS]

Originally Posted by normarae63

AND had you not posted her very personal details that were purely hearsay perhaps that lady would've come back? Perhaps sending an apology to her would be a good step in clearing up this mess. IMO, you ran her off with that post Donna.

I can assure you that nothing she posted was heresay.

[DBlain]

Originally Posted by normarae63

AND had you not posted her very personal details that were purely hearsay perhaps that lady would've come back? Perhaps sending an apology to her would be a good step in clearing up this mess. IMO, you ran her off with that post Donna.

Give me a break, and yes like you I am posting on assumption, but also a little bit of fact.

1. The OP started the thread by saying the group stole her yorkie

2. I repeated something I was told that was relative to a dog's care, isn't this what this site is about, from post after post I read here, it seems that a dog's welfare comes first over a human's feeling. Do I feel that is always right, probably not but it happens over and over.

3. you have the right to your opinion but saying I chased her off from YT is a stretch and very insulting. Since the OP only posted on one other topic what makes you feel comfortable saying it's because of me she will not return. She is not an active YT member, she has only been here once before to post about a cute little pup she needed to rehome. She got people including myself to reach out trying to place the dog. She never replied to ONE person on the thread and no one embarrassed her there, they were just trying to find out if she still had the dog. To me that is a different type of Yorkie Talker "user" one who shows up when she need this group's help.

[Callie_s Mom]

Let me start by saying that my Callie came to me from Save a Yorkie Rescue and they are more than reputable. Before I was able to adopt her they sent a local rescue and former yorkie owner to do a home visit and meet me and my other dogs. They called my vet to check on the care my other dogs receive and checked with my personal references also. These people are dedicated and take every care for the dogs they have in their care. They also follow up with the little ones they adopt out. I hear from the founder about every 6 weeks or so.
I don't know the circumstances of the owner of this little one in question, but I do know that Save A Yorkie would never steal a dog! They have their hands full saving the little ones who are turned over to them!
I hope the situation works out for little Tiki and his owner. I hope she will take the advice and help offered to her, for his sake.
Donna, so glad you called Tiki's foster Mom to find out what was happening.
And bless the foster mom for being forthcoming and answering questions. Also, thank you for posting here. Truly, everyone here only wants to help.

The founder of Save A Yorkie rescue is actually a member here at Yorkie Talk, though I have not seen her post since I joined earlier this year.

In closing, I hope the reputation of such an wonderful organization as Save A Yorkie Rescue has not been damaged. They truly are a wonderful group of people who care for Yorkies above all else. That is something that both Yorkie Talk members and Save a Yorkie Rescue have in common.

[lynzy420]

Originally Posted by Callie_s Mom

Let me start by saying that my Callie came to me from Save a Yorkie Rescue and they are more than reputable. Before I was able to adopt her they sent a local rescue and former yorkie owner to do a home visit and meet me and my other dogs. They called my vet to check on the care my other dogs receive and checked with my personal references also. These people are dedicated and take every care for the dogs they have in their care. They also follow up with the little ones they adopt out. I hear from the founder about every 6 weeks or so.
I don't know the circumstances of the owner of this little one in question, but I do know that Save A Yorkie would never steal a dog! They have their hands full saving the little ones who are turned over to them!
I hope the situation works out for little Tiki and his owner. I hope she will take the advice and help offered to her, for his sake.
Donna, so glad you called Tiki's foster Mom to find out what was happening.
And bless the foster mom for being forthcoming and answering questions. Also, thank you for posting here. Truly, everyone here only wants to help.

The founder of Save A Yorkie rescue is actually a member here at Yorkie Talk, though I have not seen her post since I joined earlier this year.

In closing, I hope the reputation of such an wonderful organization as Save A Yorkie Rescue has not been damaged. They truly are a wonderful group of people who care for Yorkies above all else. That is something that both Yorkie Talk members and Save a Yorkie Rescue have in common.

[DBlain]

Originally Posted by Callie_s Mom

Let me start by saying that my Callie came to me from Save a Yorkie Rescue and they are more than reputable. Before I was able to adopt her they sent a local rescue and former yorkie owner to do a home visit and meet me and my other dogs. They called my vet to check on the care my other dogs receive and checked with my personal references also. These people are dedicated and take every care for the dogs they have in their care. They also follow up with the little ones they adopt out. I hear from the founder about every 6 weeks or so.
I don't know the circumstances of the owner of this little one in question, but I do know that Save A Yorkie would never steal a dog! They have their hands full saving the little ones who are turned over to them!
I hope the situation works out for little Tiki and his owner. I hope she will take the advice and help offered to her, for his sake.
Donna, so glad you called Tiki's foster Mom to find out what was happening.
And bless the foster mom for being forthcoming and answering questions. Also, thank you for posting here. Truly, everyone here only wants to help.

The founder of Save A Yorkie rescue is actually a member here at Yorkie Talk, though I have not seen her post since I joined earlier this year.

In closing, I hope the reputation of such an wonderful organization as Save A Yorkie Rescue has not been damaged. They truly are a wonderful group of people who care for Yorkies above all else. That is something that both Yorkie Talk members and Save a Yorkie Rescue have in common.

you know it was not until Marilyn posted on this thread that I realized I had spoke to her before. She was in desperate need of finding someone to do a home visit in the Bronx. I was trying to help her by reaching out to a lot of my contacts in NY. The pup was older and she was agonizing on how to place it because the situation sounded good on the phone but she could just not let the dog go out without knowing more about who would be getting the pup. I felt bad because I could not find anyone willing to go to the Bronx, but had respect for her for trying so hard. I often wondered what ever happened with that. I am glad to hear that you have had a nice experience with them. I look forward to hearing more about Callie.

Rescue groups rely heavily on their reputation and that is another reason why I disclosed some of the less than ideal conditions the dog was in, I wanted people to realize that they were not holding on to the dog just to prove a point or make a quick buck

[yorkietalkjilly]

Donna, not knowing the whole story, it sounded to me as if your call and mentioning the posts here might have facilitated the OP getting her dog back and I want to thank you for taking the time to do that. It's just unfortunate that this older lady seemed to be between a real rock and a hard place and then might - might have had to almost grovel for some reason and that seems wrong. I don't mind a rescue asking for a retraction but I do hope it wasn't conditional or the dog's return contingent upon it.

Hopefully, if I am totally misunderstanding the narrative, the rescue will forgive me for wondering if that were the case. When there aren't many facts, an older lady seems absolutely desperate for her dog that a rescue won't return, unflattering information is given out about her care of the dog and a personal habit brought into it, the rescue is told again of reactions here at some point and before or after that it all ends suddenly with a return of the dog w/a vet deal, followed by a terse leading statement laying out exactly what will be retracted and the OP comes on and makes carefully worded statements exactly along those lines, I, for one, was left wondering what did happened. Rescue mom said her piece after finding out what was being said here and I'm still confused but it seems to have worked out. I'm truly sorry if I completely misjudged either OP or rescue, but unless the dog were being neglected very badly in more ways than those mentioned, why not give it back or get Animal Control involved?

Anyway, thank you Donna for calling and I think helping getting the dog back to the lady. And thank you to the rescue for all the work you do to help dogs and people like the OP.

But anyway, such is the nature of YorkieTalk. We often don't have much to go on, usually believe credible-sounding members' desperate posts for help and err on their side much of the time until and if we hear another credible narrative laying out the other side or sides. All members are free to post their points of view on any subject here based on the knowledge we have at the time.

[Callie_s Mom]

Thanks Donna! Your comments helped! And Marilyn is wonderful!