Small Dogs Outside Alone

[Britster]

Originally Posted by Ellie May

As I said, to each their own. There are things that I do with my dogs that people on YT would not agree with. It is my judgment call. It is your right to make these calls for your pup.

Exactly.

There is probably a lot of things that I do that would make people on YT cringe.

Like right now, I'm sitting here typing this, and Jackson and my dads dogs are running back and forth along the fence as our neighbor rides his four wheeler by on the other side (they chase him through the fence). I can't physically see them at this point in time, but I hear them barking and know they're still running. I actually meant to post the video from last week that I made, lol, of me riding by on the four wheeler and them chasing me. Goingto do that now...

[ironmike86]

FWIW I let Moki act like a dog. But I let him out on my porch that has a gate and he can't get off. Period no way he can. He uses a grass potty pad. I let him go into the fenced yard supervised only. My previous dogs I let out all the time no supervision. They since passed. But before I got Moki a Coyote jumped the neighbors 6ft fence and grabbed the 12+ # mix dog and jumped back over. She saw the whole thing from her window. Since then Moki will always in my sights. With me close. Every yard ,every situation is different. I don't judge because I'm not there. But IN MY AREA imo if your dog isn't at least medium to large size or a Tough Terrier like a Jack or Border I would watch them 24/7 if it were mine. A Coyote with kill a Jack or Border but they can run fast and are feisty.. In the house it can be dangerous also. But I doggy proofed what I could. And if he's is going to be left home alone or if nobody is watching him he goes in the room which is the kitchen and rec room shut in with baby gates.JMO

[katienme2002]

I personally think this thread has gotten way out of hand..Everyone is entitled to their own opinions and views, and we shouldn't be "judging" one another. I think we all should respectfully agree to disagree on this subject. I think everyone here cares and loves their babies, end of story..JMO

[capt_noonie]

Originally Posted by Hrossen11

Coyotes are not stupid though, they are wild animals. they are not going to come into the residential area when there are plenty of easy meals closer to where they live, those who live on larger acres or closer to the orchards have to worry. As long as we don't encroach on their environment they will not encroach on ours, so really depends on where you live and knowing your environment. Be aware not wary. I know my environment and wildlife nearby. Now that being said if I lived somewhere else I would probably do something different.

Dogs sitting out in the backyards that their owners think they cannot get out of are sitting ducks for coyotes, and therefore easy meals in residential areas. Lots more for them to eat in the neighborhoods and cities than out in the country.

Originally Posted by Maximo

They are moving into residential areas. Recent studies show there are over a couple thousand in Chicago -- in the city. Here are two standing in front of Wrigley Field, home of the Chicago Cubs: Wild coyotes 'kind of chilling' by Wrigley Field

There are two members here on YT who live in residential areas of New England and Beverly Hills, CA who lost their tiny Yorkies to coyotes. The man in Beverly Hills was walking his Yorkie on a leash when the coyote snatched the poor little thing.

I came face to face with a coyote in the parking lot of my college campus in CA.

We even had a bear wander into a major shopping center here.

Even Jessica Simpson's maltipoo Dasiy was snatched by a coyote when she was walking her in LA.

[lynzy420]

Originally Posted by lynzy420

Another tragedy I've heard about nearby my home. I feel like the overprotective Mom of the neighborhood, but I am outraged about what happened to this dog that found a small spot in the fence "that wasn't there yesterday" and poor thing ran in front of car doing 30mph. on the street, the yelping and screaming from a block away sent me in my bare feet running, I've just finished washing the freaking blood off my hands so here I go:

Dear People,
Backyards are not safe for little dogs, doggie doors are not safe for little dogs to go in and out of either, I'm sorry they just aren't...disagree all you want but I warn you they are not safe.

Backyards are natural habitats and change daily, the fence you have up protecting your yard may be sound, but rabbits, raccoons, fox, squirrels live there too, they dig, they can and do dig holes that your small dog may just find and get out of....and die because of.

The other wildlife that can and do get in to your yards can and do harm small dogs every single freaking day and sometimes lead to death.

Passersby, birds etc., may drop something harmful in your yard and your little dog may and often do, find it and sometimes die from whatever was dropped.

Birds, hawks, crows, eagles etc., may fly over your yard and snatch one of your pups, they do it everyday and it sometimes leads to death. This happens daily too.

Trees, bushes fences poles etc., sometimes change and a sharp object is no place for your small dog to be around and they often are injured because of things like this and sometimes die. This happens daily too.

People, often times people steal, even in the country even if you live in the middle of nowhere, they steal your dog and sometimes you never see them again. Sometimes, utility people, strangers, Jehovah Witness' etc, open your gate and your pup gets out...sometimes they die. This happens daily too.

I can not for the life of me figure out why anyone would/do leave there small dogs outside alone, unattended to let tragedy strike, it often does and it happens daily.

Yes I know tragedy can strike in front of your face as well, but really why do so many gamble with their little dogs, it happens daily and it sometimes leads to death.

Great post Lynzy!!!

I stand by the above, IMHO its gambling. I have seen dogs here on YT that have died for all of the reasons above, and I pulled a bloody dog and held him in my arms as he died last night, so yes I've seen it first hand.

I have had a dog die from contact with a possum, and yes I know for sure it was a possum cause my dear Hugo bit it, killed it didn't eat it. He dropped it the second I screamed. Within a couple days he was yellow like American Cheese, he died a horrible death, H O R R I B L E, death, because a neighbor had put out rat poison baits that the possum got in to and then my dog bit the possum. I have had 26 dogs (Mia2 makes it 26!) I can tell you dozens of stories of the things that have happened.

I will not change my stance on small dogs being outside unattended, I've read here and all over the things that can and do happen everyday. I do know that most of our YTers are very in tune with their pets and I also know that we all have a different way of handling things. I'm tired of seeing dead dogs here, in the news, in my life for stupid nonsensical reasons...usually owner errors....

I also have some good friends that let their little dogs out in the yard, they make it as safe as can be and most times things don't happen...but sometimes they do, and dogs die everyday because of it.

I'm not judging anyone here, my Original thread post is how I do feel, and I wish most people didn't do these things...especially the ones who have half a brain and no conscience. I don't like how it became an I'm better than you thread...

For those of you who do let your dogs out regularly:
If you can't be out with them, check on them regularly

Examine your fences and yards for anything potentially dangerous, especially after wind storms etc.

If you have a gate put a lock on it and use it all the time so others won't let them out etc.

Just be vigilant and tenacious in always making their area safe as can be, nothing is 100% safe.

For the record, my dogs never go outside without me ever, my dogs are trained to potty inside, my dogs don't go in the yard unless on a leash (cuz they are bad and I'm a bad trainer)...Mini rarely goes out cuz she is allergic to everything and should live in a plastic bubble!!!

[Lovetodream88]

I was sitting here and came up with just as many if not more things that can happen inside a house to hurt or kill a dog! Stairs, cleaners, foods, bones even dog toys or dog food. You have to realistic about things! There are not coyotes in my area but they will go into neighborhoods. If I ever get a smaller Yorkie I would definitely not be letting them go out by there self. It's just kinda funny that I am sure no one does everything perfect with there dog some are not potty trained, some bite some tear things up ect just because those sound like the owner is doing something wrong doses mean its a cut and dry case like maybe the dog bites because they where abused. Just about everything should be taken case by case. No one knows it all.

[lynzy420]

Originally Posted by Lovetodream88

I was sitting here and came up with just as many if not more things that can happen inside a house to hurt or kill a dog! Stairs, cleaners, foods, bones even dog toys or dog food. You have to realistic about things! There are not coyotes in my area but they will go into neighborhoods. If I ever get a smaller Yorkie I would definitely not be letting them go out by there self. It's just kinda funny that I am sure no one does everything perfect with there dog some are not potty trained, some bite some tear things up ect just because those sound like the owner is doing something wrong doses mean its a cut and dry case like maybe the dog bites because they where abused. Just about everything should be taken case by case. No one knows it all.

At the end of the day this is absolutely the truth, in a nutshell!
Good job Taylor, we are all different, we all have different opinions, and beliefs. It goes on and on...my post is my opinion...on and on...we all do things differently....! We just all, myself included, have to accept that not everyone is going to agree with everything we say but if we all just agree to disagree we will be so much better for it.

Kind of like Bulls Penis'....I can not believe anyone would give their dogs Bully Sticks and yet they do!!!

[yorkietalkjilly]

There are so many ways a dog can get hurt. I wonder how many people leave dressed and collared dogs home alone and they can get caught up in and in so much trouble in them. One little girl tried to get out of her dress and panicked, tore herself up trying to get loose, banging into and hanging up on things, took months to get over her anxiety state. They can hang on their cage, break their leg trying to climb it, eat electric cords, eat and swallow furniture, baseboard wood, can dislocate a shoulder jumping off the couch or bed. I know of a dog who ripped his brand new blanket and wound it around his leg for hours cutting off all circulation for hours, lost the leg. Collars hang up in mouths, they climb the gates and fall off, breaking things, etc.

There are dangers when leaving a dog home alone while we work or shop or run errands. No place is all that safe really.

[Lovetodream88]

Originally Posted by yorkietalkjilly

There are so many ways a dog can get hurt. I wonder how many people leave dressed and collared dogs home alone and they can get caught up in and in so much trouble in them. One little girl tried to get out of her dress and panicked, tore herself up trying to get loose, banging into and hanging up on things, took months to get over her anxiety state. They can hang on their cage, break their leg trying to climb it, eat electric cords, eat and swallow furniture, baseboard wood, can dislocate a shoulder jumping off the couch or bed. I know of a dog who ripped his brand new blanket and wound it around his leg for hours cutting off all circulation for hours, lost the leg. Collars hang up in mouths, they climb the gates and fall off, breaking things, etc.

There are dangers when leaving a dog home alone while we work or shop or run errands. No place is all that safe really.

One time when we were at my aunts house Sammy was hot a laid over the vent that was blowing the AC and his tag on his collar got stuck in the vent and because he is bigger/stronger he pulled the whole vent cover off and it was hanging off of his collar and it made me think wow what happens if that happens to a tiny dog when no one is home. Luckily my parents vents aren't that kinda but they are like that at my house but Callie is never left alone. I also now know that smallest thing that happens to a dog can give them anxiety that can take months to get ride of even if the problem is fixed.

[yorkietalkjilly]

Originally Posted by Lovetodream88

One time when we were at my aunts house Sammy was hot a laid over the vent that was blowing the AC and his tag on his collar got stuck in the vent and because he is bigger/stronger he pulled the whole vent cover off and it was hanging off of his collar and it made me think wow what happens if that happens to a tiny dog when no one is home. Luckily my parents vents aren't that kinda but they are like that at my house but Callie is never left alone. I also now know that smallest thing that happens to a dog can give them anxiety that can take months to get ride of even if the problem is fixed.

Absolutely true. Dogs are subject to injury anyplace and the smaller, the more easily injured in most cases. Yorkies think they can fly - just bound around willy-nilly - walk on the very edges of furniture and take such chances. When Tibbe is home alone when I have to go out, I'm always worried - no telling what he'll get up to and he's a very, very well-behaved dog. It's a dangerous world inside or out for a dog.

[lynzy420]

Originally Posted by yorkietalkjilly

Absolutely true. Dogs are subject to injury anyplace and the smaller, the more easily injured in most cases. Yorkies think they can fly - just bound around willy-nilly - walk on the very edges of furniture and take such chances. When Tibbe is home alone when I have to go out, I'm always worried - no telling what he'll get up to and he's a very, very well-behaved dog. It's a dangerous world inside or out for a dog.

[lynzy420]

Originally Posted by ironmike86

FWIW I let Moki act like a dog. But I let him out on my porch that has a gate and he can't get off. Period no way he can. He uses a grass potty pad. I let him go into the fenced yard supervised only. My previous dogs I let out all the time no supervision. They since passed. But before I got Moki a Coyote jumped the neighbors 6ft fence and grabbed the 12+ # mix dog and jumped back over. She saw the whole thing from her window. Since then Moki will always in my sights. With me close. Every yard ,every situation is different. I don't judge because I'm not there. But IN MY AREA imo if your dog isn't at least medium to large size or a Tough Terrier like a Jack or Border I would watch them 24/7 if it were mine. A Coyote with kill a Jack or Border but they can run fast and are feisty.. In the house it can be dangerous also. But I doggy proofed what I could. And if he's is going to be left home alone or if nobody is watching him he goes in the room which is the kitchen and rec room shut in with baby gates.JMO

I would be cautious though my friend Jim had a great gated system on his porch for his poodle Noel, unfortunately the next door neighbors Rotty Xena found a way over that gate and it was a tragedy. Now I'm not saying you shouldn't etc., I'm just telling you to think of all possibilities...maybe a higher fence etc...just in case.

[lynzy420]

Originally Posted by Britster

Exactly.

There is probably a lot of things that I do that would make people on YT cringe.

Like right now, I'm sitting here typing this, and Jackson and my dads dogs are running back and forth along the fence as our neighbor rides his four wheeler by on the other side (they chase him through the fence). I can't physically see them at this point in time, but I hear them barking and know they're still running. I actually meant to post the video from last week that I made, lol, of me riding by on the four wheeler and them chasing me. Goingto do that now...

Hahaha even I have things I do that would make people cringe...like Miss Mini...no I can't tell that one!!!

[ironmike86]

Originally Posted by lynzy420

I would be cautious though my friend Jim had a great gated system on his porch for his poodle Noel, unfortunately the next door neighbors Rotty Xena found a way over that gate and it was a tragedy. Now I'm not saying you shouldn't etc., I'm just telling you to think of all possibilities...maybe a higher fence etc...just in case.

Thanks But I watch Moki on the porch. My yard is completely fenced. Unless the dog can jump six feet like a Coyote. My gates have locks. I always watch Moki no matter what. But if something did get through I'm usually doing yard work and have a tool in my hand to defend me and my dog. And I usually have my service Pistol on my anyways. Even though I like to go on the Yorkie forum. I'm a tactical guy combat ready.

[lynzy420]

Originally Posted by ironmike86

Thanks But I watch Moki on the porch. My yard is completely fenced. Unless the dog can jump six feet like a Coyote. My gates have locks. I always watch Moki no matter what. But if something did get through I'm usually doing yard work and have a tool in my hand to defend me and my dog. And I usually have my service Pistol on my anyways. Even though I like to go on the Yorkie forum. I'm a tactical guy combat ready.

Sounds perfect to me! My ex is the same way with our pups, he carries his service revolver! He's a good Yorkie Daddy too...