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rzrpretty · 03-18-2012, 05:01 PM

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I googled her phone number and seen she had listed yorkie-apso pups a year ago and listed yorkie teacups this year.... And she did tell me she had 2 sets. So, being only 3 isn't that too many pups?

And you want to breed this poor girl again?? I feel so sorry for this baby. I think the kindest thing to do is have them spayed and neutered.

I said that is why I bought them but soon discovered she has been bred too many times and that is not my intention anymore. Please read all posts before jumping to conclusions.

lynzy420 · 03-18-2012, 05:06 PM

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No I did not go to the sellers house - she actually lives 5 hours away from me and met me half way. I think that should have been a red flag!

She does have other items listed on kijiji so I was able to get her address. I have sent her an email telling her I would contact the police. Really at this point I just want answers. The dogs will NOT be going back to her - but I do want to know some truths about these pups.

Based on what you suspect and what you already know I do believe a call to her local S.P.C.A. is warranted as well, they can do a "animal welfare" check.

rzrpretty · 03-18-2012, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by rzrpretty

I googled her phone number and seen she had listed yorkie-apso pups a year ago and listed yorkie teacups this year.... And she did tell me she had 2 sets. So, being only 3 isn't that too many pups?

And you want to breed this poor girl again?? I feel so sorry for this baby. I think the kindest thing to do is have them spayed and neutered.

I said I wanted too - that is before I discovered she was overbred! Please read all posts before jumping to conclusions.

OkieMoe · 03-18-2012, 05:08 PM

I think trying to continue to contact her, and threatening legal action to get information is a very good idea, if nothing else that 'breeder' needs her life made hell for what she did to those poor pups.

When you go to the vet, he'll hopefully have some more advice on what to do to help you get a handle on those poor little ones. And skin conditions are common if dogs aren't cared for and just breed. Good luck, sorry you had to find out all this the hard way.

But I am glad those doggies are out of that breeder's possession.

gemy · 03-18-2012, 05:08 PM

Well welcome to YT. All I can urge you is to go to the vet as you have planned, and tell your tale to him. At least he might be able to tell if this female is pregnant. Given the lies the breeder told you, she may have a whole lot of dogs breeding, and who knows maybe this female is pregnant.

It also sounds that these two do need some medical care which I hope you are prepared for.

In terms of the male, get a belly band, change it frequently and at least the spraying won't be all over your house.

rzrpretty · 03-18-2012, 05:13 PM

Yes I do agree. I will contact the police and local SPCA. I do not agree with puppy mills at all. And I wanted to go through all the proper channels when i started breeding. And I know the effects of over bred puppies (I bought one before) so that is not something I wanted to have attached to my name.

Honestly I am happy she is not pregnant - yorkies can not have puppies every year and when I found out she was 3 and pregnant with her third batch I was shocked!

Not educated in purchasing yorkies - I bought 2 yorkies unregistered for $3900 was that too much to pay? How much should I have paid?

rzrpretty · 03-18-2012, 05:15 PM

Sorry - no one answered me: is Cesar dry dog food good for Yorkies?

rzrpretty · 03-18-2012, 05:16 PM

Also, the males tongue does not fit in his mouth - is this normal for yorkies? about .25 of an inch sticks out at all times.

yorkietalkjilly · 03-18-2012, 05:21 PM

No, Yorkie's tongues fit into their mouth like other dogs. I've been told that usually inbreeding or breeding for short muzzles can cause this. Other times it can just be a "throwback" I have heard.

Probably no one who's read/posted has experience with this Cesar brand and knows nothing about it.

megansmomma · 03-18-2012, 05:22 PM

$3900 is an outragous price to pay for two yorkies let alone two yorkies without papers, that are not house trained, over bred and from a poor breeder at that. You really need to take them both and have them spayed and neutered ASAP. I do not think you have any legal actions with the police but you might be able to sue her. Highly doubt you will get anywhere with that either. If you want to breed you need to go about it the proper way and what you have done is far from proper. Please do your homework and chalk this up to a hard lesson learned.

If you are not able to care for them you could contact a rescue and turn them over. I hardly doubt you will be able to recoup your losses at this point. Very sad.....

Lovetodream88 · 03-18-2012, 05:26 PM

I would say you rescued these two and I would get them cleaned up, get them proper vet check up, get them both fixed and sounds like they might need a dental. It sounds like they have had a terrible life and breeding the poor girl again would probably be terrible on her. If you want to breed you need to do a whole lot more research and you need to find a mentor who breeds. When breeding your breeding dogs should be health checked, free of LP, they should be excellent representation of the breed and they should be AKC registered which it is not possible to just send in a blood sample and get them registered.

Lovetodream88 · 03-18-2012, 05:30 PM

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Sorry - no one answered me: is Cesar dry dog food good for Yorkies?

I didn't know they had a dry food but I am not a fan of cesar but was that what they were eating? I would not change there dog food yet I would keep them on what they were being fed for a week or two and then switch and when you switch it needs to be done slowly or they could have stomach problems. Wellness and blue buffalo are two good brands.

Yorkiemom1 · 03-18-2012, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by rzrpretty

No I did not go to the sellers house - she actually lives 5 hours away from me and met me half way. I think that should have been a red flag!

She does have other items listed on kijiji so I was able to get her address. I have sent her an email telling her I would contact the police. Really at this point I just want answers. The dogs will NOT be going back to her - but I do want to know some truths about these pups.

You will NOT be getting any kind of truths about anything from this lady. You can NOT believe ANYTHING she tells you. You have been taken, lock, stock, and barrel. The good news is, you have rescued two poor unfortunate babies that this lady has kicked to the curb, for some reason....it is the reason that concerns me....if she could still be making money off them, she never would have gotten rid of them. I am concerned about a major health issue. You must get them to a vet and have a health check done, including lab work, including determination to verify if this girl is pregnant......this will be expensive. Then you need to have both these babies fixed....you can NOT possibly breed 2 dogs you know absolutely NOTHING about.....then they need to be cleaned up so you can at least SEE what you have. You can then start to train them to exist with a loving family, which is something they are not familiar with....this will take much patience and love and kindness, but these babies will reward you with complete devotion and loyalty.

makennasmommy · 03-18-2012, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by rzrpretty

Yes I do agree. I will contact the police and local SPCA. I do not agree with puppy mills at all. And I wanted to go through all the proper channels when i started breeding. And I know the effects of over bred puppies (I bought one before) so that is not something I wanted to have attached to my name.

Honestly I am happy she is not pregnant - yorkies can not have puppies every year and when I found out she was 3 and pregnant with her third batch I was shocked!

Not educated in purchasing yorkies - I bought 2 yorkies unregistered for $3900 was that too much to pay? How much should I have paid?

Im sorry but i have to say that Id say you paid way to much for a pair of unregistered yorkies. I have seen unregistered yorkies for as little as $400, and from a reputable breeder a pet registered puppy can range from $700-$3000 per well bred, health certified, etc etc etc.
HUGS....happy the pair has you now.

BabyGirl Rosie · 03-18-2012, 06:03 PM

It sounds like breeding is all these pups know.

I am glad that you have decided not to breed. Please get them spayed and neutered. Especially if you are planning on finding a home for the male. Have him neutered first to ensure he is just a pet not a breeder again. Also consider a rescue if you decide to rehome him. Good luck to you. Sounds like you can give them a loving home but it will take some time and hard work.

03-18-2012, 05:08 PM	#19
OkieMoe Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Edmond, Oklahoma Posts: 285	I think trying to continue to contact her, and threatening legal action to get information is a very good idea, if nothing else that 'breeder' needs her life made hell for what she did to those poor pups. When you go to the vet, he'll hopefully have some more advice on what to do to help you get a handle on those poor little ones. And skin conditions are common if dogs aren't cared for and just breed. Good luck, sorry you had to find out all this the hard way. But I am glad those doggies are out of that breeder's possession. __________________ Kevin & Jessica and our little yorkie, Gypsy

03-18-2012, 05:08 PM	#20
gemy YT 2000 Club Donating Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Huntsville,Ont,Canaada Posts: 12,340 Blog Entries: 2	Well welcome to YT. All I can urge you is to go to the vet as you have planned, and tell your tale to him. At least he might be able to tell if this female is pregnant. Given the lies the breeder told you, she may have a whole lot of dogs breeding, and who knows maybe this female is pregnant. It also sounds that these two do need some medical care which I hope you are prepared for. In terms of the male, get a belly band, change it frequently and at least the spraying won't be all over your house. __________________ Razzle and Dara. Our clan. RIP Karma Dec 24th 2004-July 14 2013 RIP Zoey Jun9 th 2008-May 12 2012. RIP Magic,Mar 26 2006July 1st 2018

03-18-2012, 05:21 PM	#24
yorkietalkjilly ♥ Love My Tibbe! ♥ Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: D/FW, Texas Posts: 22,140	No, Yorkie's tongues fit into their mouth like other dogs. I've been told that usually inbreeding or breeding for short muzzles can cause this. Other times it can just be a "throwback" I have heard. Probably no one who's read/posted has experience with this Cesar brand and knows nothing about it. __________________ Jeanie and Tibbe One must do the best one can. You may get some marks for a very imperfect answer: you will certainly get none for leaving the question alone. C. S. Lewis Last edited by yorkietalkjilly; 03-18-2012 at 05:22 PM.

03-18-2012, 05:22 PM	#25
megansmomma Donating YT 10K Club Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: S. W. Suburbs of Chicago, IL Posts: 12,235	$3900 is an outragous price to pay for two yorkies let alone two yorkies without papers, that are not house trained, over bred and from a poor breeder at that. You really need to take them both and have them spayed and neutered ASAP. I do not think you have any legal actions with the police but you might be able to sue her. Highly doubt you will get anywhere with that either. If you want to breed you need to go about it the proper way and what you have done is far from proper. Please do your homework and chalk this up to a hard lesson learned. If you are not able to care for them you could contact a rescue and turn them over. I hardly doubt you will be able to recoup your losses at this point. Very sad..... __________________ “Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.” Mark Twain

03-18-2012, 05:26 PM	#26
Lovetodream88 Yorkie mom of 4 Donating YT Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: LaPlata, Md Posts: 23,249	I would say you rescued these two and I would get them cleaned up, get them proper vet check up, get them both fixed and sounds like they might need a dental. It sounds like they have had a terrible life and breeding the poor girl again would probably be terrible on her. If you want to breed you need to do a whole lot more research and you need to find a mentor who breeds. When breeding your breeding dogs should be health checked, free of LP, they should be excellent representation of the breed and they should be AKC registered which it is not possible to just send in a blood sample and get them registered. __________________ Taylor My babies Joey, Penny ,Ollie & Dixie Callie Mae, you will forever be in my heart!

03-18-2012, 05:13 PM	#21
rzrpretty Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 31	Yes I do agree. I will contact the police and local SPCA. I do not agree with puppy mills at all. And I wanted to go through all the proper channels when i started breeding. And I know the effects of over bred puppies (I bought one before) so that is not something I wanted to have attached to my name. Honestly I am happy she is not pregnant - yorkies can not have puppies every year and when I found out she was 3 and pregnant with her third batch I was shocked! Not educated in purchasing yorkies - I bought 2 yorkies unregistered for $3900 was that too much to pay? How much should I have paid?

03-18-2012, 05:15 PM	#22
rzrpretty Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 31	Sorry - no one answered me: is Cesar dry dog food good for Yorkies?

03-18-2012, 05:16 PM	#23
rzrpretty Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 31	Also, the males tongue does not fit in his mouth - is this normal for yorkies? about .25 of an inch sticks out at all times.

03-18-2012, 06:03 PM	#30
BabyGirl Rosie I ♥ my girls! Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: With My Yorkies Posts: 18,980	It sounds like breeding is all these pups know. I am glad that you have decided not to breed. Please get them spayed and neutered. Especially if you are planning on finding a home for the male. Have him neutered first to ensure he is just a pet not a breeder again. Also consider a rescue if you decide to rehome him. Good luck to you. Sounds like you can give them a loving home but it will take some time and hard work. __________________ Momma to three sweet Yorkie girls Rosie Marie, Mikki Leigh , and Lily Mae Grace!