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05-02-2011, 10:47 AM | #31 |
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| When I see the state of some people's (a few friends of mine included...) clothes, coats/jackets and the inside of their vehicles, from their shedding dogs & cats, I would think the hair & dander they carry around would be more of an issue than my non-shedding dog in a purse.
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05-02-2011, 11:15 AM | #33 | |
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05-02-2011, 11:31 AM | #34 | |
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05-02-2011, 01:14 PM | #35 |
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| We take Levi TO a lot of restaurants, but never actually bring him inside. We always sit outside when we have him with us. One of us will go inside and order or grab the host/hostess and let them know we're at a table outside, and the other person will sit outside with the little guy. I love to go to Levi-friendly places, but I won't take him inside a restaurant. Most of our favorite places have outdoor seating
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05-02-2011, 01:32 PM | #36 |
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| No, not usually. I will almost always try to find a place where I can sit outside, or I will order out and sit in the car, or in a park. But one time, I was on vacation, had Armani, it was freezing out, so I have to admit I snuck him into Panera- I sat his carrier on the floor and threw my coat over it. I know technically it was wrong, but no one can convince me I really caused any type of injury to someone else. I am allergic to kids and they are still allowed in restaurants. I wouldn't do it on a regular basis mostly because it is too stressful for me worry that they may bark and why make them sit in the bag for all the time anyway if they don't have to?
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05-02-2011, 01:39 PM | #37 | |
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My feelings exactly. I laughed so much when I read this!
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05-02-2011, 01:59 PM | #38 | |
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And it's a LOT harder to find babysitters or pay for them and sometimes parents just want to go out to dinner and enjoy bringing their kids with them... dogs don't require a babysitter and we CAN leave them at home for a few hours. We can't just leave my 3yr old sister at home for a few hours when we randomly decide we want to go out to eat (tho sometimes I wish we could.... hahaha). So I do think it's a big difference. I def. agree that my dog is MUCH better behaved than most children and wouldn't disturb or ruin anything inside a restaurant... I am not denying that! But I think it's just the principle of it... I dunno. Like I said, I don't see anything wrong with running into a store (like Target, or Walmart, or something) with a dog in your bag if you can't leave them in the car. But when you KNOW you are going out to eat at a restaurant that does not allow dogs... just leave them at home. Just my .2 cents for whatever it is worth... this coming from a total DOG over kid lover, haha
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05-02-2011, 02:14 PM | #39 |
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| Ellie only goes places where dogs are allowed. If a restaurant allowed her, then I'd have no problem taking her -- except that she doesn't behave very well. I don't think a small dog is going to cause harm to anyone if it is in its carrier. It's not really fair to large breed owners though. If they let small dogs in and not large dogs, that's a lawsuit. I just don't see the point in sneaking them in. If you need the dog for a health issue, then certify it. I have made an exception before. Ellie does go into reststops with us when traveling because there is literally not much of a choice (unless we took turns going in which is silly). They are dirty-nasty places anyway, so who cares... I like to take her to places that dogs are allowed sometimes. I'd love for her to be with me 24/7. Honestly though. I don't think it is healthy for the dog. If they are with their owners at ALL times, then that seems like it would cause an extreme case of separation anxiety. Nothing wrong with them being home by themselves...
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05-02-2011, 02:24 PM | #40 | |
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Even if dogs could sit at the table at a restaurant, I would likely take them very little. There have been a handful of occasions where it would have been useful (and obviously the one time where I did it)- mostly when I am on a long car trip and can't find an appropriate place to eat and keep an eye on the dog. And as far as kids go- yes there are times where kids will misbehave but it is the parents responsibility to remove them from the restaurant immediately. People go out to enjoy a meal and a screaming kid at the next table is a huge nuisance- I hate when parents sit there and act like its not happening- get up and remove said child until they learn to behave better.
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05-02-2011, 06:46 PM | #41 | |
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As a mom to 2 young boys, I sometimes find it a little offensive to see comments about kids being worse than dogs. I get that some people just aren't "kid people", I'm not either, but it makes going anywhere with them a little more stressful. My kids are 4 and 5, and they are well behaved. I get compliments from little old ladies about how good they are all the time. BUT...they have bad days, and I can't control when and where they decide that they just are not having it, and have a total meltdown. There are consequences for a meltdown, but they don't always care at the time and there really isn't much I can do about it. Nothing is more offensive to me than getting judgemental glares over it, especially from people who do NOT have children and have no idea what it's like to be a mom who can go nowhere and do nothing without them. What other choice do I have? I can't afford to hire a babysitter every time I go somewhere, and I'm honestly not worried about putting out someone who finds kids annoying without knowing what it's like to have any themselves. They will get over it, and they will survive. I do try not to take my kids to really nice places, but sometimes people look their noses down at moms in McDonalds! That place is FOR kids, people! lol. My kids don't cause asthma attacks, so they can't be compared to animals. Sometimes it's hurtful to see comments and jabs made about moms with young kids who are having a bad day in public. Maybe the poor kid is tired, hungry and not feeling well? Maybe the kid is on the spectrum? Maybe they have some other personality disorder? You never know what the issue is. There certainly are those kids who have nothing but bad days and just need a good swift kick in hiney, but my kids are not those kids. I'm proud of how well behaved they are in public, most of the time. At home is another story.
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05-02-2011, 06:52 PM | #42 |
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| Just to clarify though, I'm not offended or making pointed responses to anyone....just throwing my persective out there, as a mom with 2 young kids, to think about when you are out and about and see an "annoying" kid. (And I agree...most kids annoy me too...even my own! )
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05-02-2011, 06:54 PM | #43 | |
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Like, ya know how some people get sooo pissed when kids/babies cry on an airplane?? Sure, it's annoying, but I always feel terrible for the mother, because you know how hard she is trying and is embarrassed, and it's even worse when people are giving you dirty glares. The kid is probably tired, hungry, confused, it's something new they are going through in most cases (being on an airplane) and if a kid gets it in his head that he's upset, well, he's gonna cry! It's life. People must travel on planes with kids sometimes and there is no other way around it... it just doesn't bother me. I mean, yes it's an annoying sound, but I just put on my headphones, or if the kid is in front of me I'll try to help by making funny faces and making them laugh, haha. I've learned to just forget about what other people think. For too long I would worry about things like that, now it's like if people are gonna judge, then oh well. Let them stare!
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05-02-2011, 06:59 PM | #44 | |
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It is not at all rude to expect to go out to dinner and have a quiet meal without screaming children at the table next to you. Thankfully MOST times I encounter this either another patron or a manager has told the parent to leave.
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05-02-2011, 07:05 PM | #45 | |
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I think as a parent, you have an obligation to leave the restaurant if your child is causing a scene. It should not ruin other patrons meals because your child is having a bad day. However, there is a difference between McDonald's and a nice restaurant...
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