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Old 02-18-2011, 08:19 AM   #1
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Hi and thanks for everyone taking the time to help me with this question. I'm picking up my yorkie this afternoon. I was told he was going to be small, however yesterday got an email saying that he's already 4 lbs 4 oz and is only supposed to be around 10 weeks old. His mom was 4.5 lbs and his dad was 2.5 lbs. I'm wondering if this is normal? I know standard yorkies are around 7 lbs full grown and this guys already 4 lbs 4 oz at 10 weeks which makes me think he's going to be quite the big guy full grown. I've had a yorkie before and I got him at 10 weeks old and wasn't even 1 lb. Same mom as this guy. However he passed away 3 weeks after I got him. We had an autopsy done on him because it wasn't expected. He didn't act sick. The report said he had a oversized heart. I'm just somewhat worried that this guy is already as big as his mom and quite young still.. Any thoughts? The two pictures I received aren't the same dog. I'm driving 3 hours on a hunch that maybe the breeder didn't want to give me this dog. They said the pup was born sooner than they expected because the mom didn't look pregnant and also that he was the only puppy.. Is it possible that at 10 weeks he could have gained so much weight? I'm going to check the puppy out and look in his mouth to see if he still has his baby teeth and if there's any discoloration on his back teeth. Any thoughts or concerns? Thanks! Also I added the first picture I received of him and also the second.

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I don't think it's that unusual, my yorkie is 10 weeks and 3.1 lbs. Some are just bigger. Good luck getting your answers! Hopefully everything is okay with this pup!
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Its possible that the pictures are the same puppy. Just a more grown up version on the second one. They change rapidly in the first few weeks of life. (both pics have the big ears I love. ) Ear set is different in those pics tho?? I am not sure if the ear set can change as they grow, am sure someone else will have the answer to that.

From my understanding even tiny dogs, can throw big ones now and then. Good luck to you!!!!
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check out the sizing charts... I think it is triple what they weight at 8 weeks and double at 12 weeks... but check to be sure.

also, if your other puppy had an enlarged heart (so sorry for you) I am not sure I would want a puppy from the same breeder. Is this a replacement? Was the defect a genetic fault?

Be careful, does not sound like you really trust the breeder. I am proud that you are not saying you don't want the puppy if large.. smaller puppies do have more health issues.

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4 pounds at 10 weeks will make about a 10 pound Yorkie..I am not saying it is impossible for a set of parents as small as you were told to produce a huge puppy...but I do not trust the breeder at all.

Have you spoken to the breeders vet for a reference..also I would not paid more then $400 for a 10 pounder.
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If he was the only pup it is common for him to be bigger. 4lbs is a good weight at that age (you should wait until he is 12 weeks to bring him home, 10 weeks is too young).
The first pup should never have been away from its mother if it was only 1lb. Good breeders would wait until the pup was atleast 12 weeks old and weighing atleast 3lbs.
Your little one may be on the larger side but will probably be healthier for it.
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check out the sizing charts... I think it is triple what they weight at 8 weeks and double at 12 weeks... but check to be sure.

also, if your other puppy had an enlarged heart (so sorry for you) I am not sure I would want a puppy from the same breeder. Is this a replacement? Was the defect a genetic fault?

Be careful, does not sound like you really trust the breeder. I am proud that you are not saying you don't want the puppy if large.. smaller puppies do have more health issues.

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Thanks for the reply. I actually wanted my money back and waited a long time for it and then she told me she wasn't going to have it for me so it was kind of my only option to get a puppy. I was heartbroken when I lost the first one and its never a good sign of a breeder when one passes away. So yes, this is a replacement. I don't believe it was a genetic fault. The vet didn't say anything about it being one. I don't trust the breeder at all. Your very accurate there. The part that made me wonder is she said that she didn't expect the puppy because the mom didn't look pregnant.. So you'd think he was small at birth... If i'm reading the charts right he would have had to have been a few ounces at birth. Like 3-5. Then told me he was going to be small and three days later "I guess he's going to be bigger than I thought I just didn't notice it till now." I think the dog in the second picture looks older than 10 weeks.. And the ears don't really match..
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4 pounds at 10 weeks will make about a 10 pound Yorkie..I am not saying it is impossible for a set of parents as small as you were told to produce a huge puppy...but I do not trust the breeder at all.

Have you spoken to the breeders vet for a reference..also I would not paid more then $400 for a 10 pounder.
Like I said in a few different replies I don't trust the breeder. From what was said in emails she seemed I guess the word is hoaxy.. Being as this is the only pup I'm starting to think more and more she'd rather keep it or sell it and get money for it rather than deliver it 6 hours to me for free... I paid $750 for the first puppy. I'm not saying I don't want a huge puppy. I have dachshunds that weigh that but none weighed 4 lbs at 10 weeks. This dog looks way older than 10 weeks... I haven't spoken to the vet for a reference. She just sent the email yesterday it was going to be a bigger yorkie and I started stressing and wondering about it since.. I guess we'll see what she gives me at 3 this afternoon. If the dogs teeth have any discoloration in his teeth I won't accept him because its not a pup. Thanks for the help and reply!
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Also forgot to mention - Monday she told me he was going to be little around 4 lbs full grown and Thursday she happened to tell me he was already 4 lbs. So he went from "going to be little" monday to "already 4.4" on Thursday..
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I hope you can get this all figured out. My Izzy came to me at 11 weeks old and a little less than than 4lbs....she is now 10lbs. My Harley was 5lbs. at 8 weeks and he is now 23lbs.
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I would think the vet record would clear things up.
As a breeder, I took my bitch to the vet for an after whelp check and shot..so there is a record of the bitche whelping...who sheis and how many. Then I took a stool sample at 6 weeks..then at 8 weeks the pups got a well puppy check...and at 12 weeks if I was selling a pup, it went to the vet for a 12 shot..(I gave earlier ones) and well puppy check.

If this breeder has no records of her pups and adults seeing the vet, I would be very concerned..

No way I believe these parents produce this pup..possible, but so very unlikely.
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I hope you can get this all figured out. My Izzy came to me at 11 weeks old and a little less than than 4lbs....she is now 10lbs. My Harley was 5lbs. at 8 weeks and he is now 23lbs.
See and I don't mind a bigger yorkie. Thats not my issue you know? Its that she's lying to me.. I guess I don't see how she can say he's going to be little like 4 lbs one day then three days later he's already 4 lbs.. I see so many differences in these two dogs and the ears kind of give it away.. Also the pictures were taken years apart. I hope she's not trying to give me an older dog trying to fool because he's definetly going to the vet for a full checkup including an estimate of how old he really is.. I'm curious as to what dog she tries to give me today. I'll post pictures and let everyone know if I even walk away with a dog and instead a wasted 6 hours of my time. Thanks for the reply and thoughts!
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Hi Billings....I live South of Missoula...so sorry to hear your first pup passed away....If you are wanting a standard yorkie...you won't be getting it with this pup....already 4 lbs+ at ten weeks...it will most likely be over 8lbs full grown.. I hope you get it sorted out...please keep us posted...
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I would think the vet record would clear things up.
As a breeder, I took my bitch to the vet for an after whelp check and shot..so there is a record of the bitche whelping...who sheis and how many. Then I took a stool sample at 6 weeks..then at 8 weeks the pups got a well puppy check...and at 12 weeks if I was selling a pup, it went to the vet for a 12 shot..(I gave earlier ones) and well puppy check.

If this breeder has no records of her pups and adults seeing the vet, I would be very concerned..

No way I believe these parents produce this pup..possible, but so very unlikely.
I got a vet record for my last one. I paid a chunk of change for the first dog, fell in love with him and 3 weeks later I went to get him in the morning and he had passed away. It was so heartbreaking that I just wanted my money back. But she doesn't have it for me... She offered me other dogs but I only wanted a yorkie.. Thats what I paid for, thats what I wanted.. So I guess i'm just trying to get what I paid for.. I'm glad though you don't believe these parents produced this pup. I don't believe so either. When you click on the properties of the pictures the dates are wrong. The first puppy was taken 1/21/2011, so recently. However the next four are taken from 2008. None of this adds up. Thats all i've been thinking about for the past 24 hours. Believe me, my minds spinning with different thoughts. Ive researched it so much that i've probably clicked on over 100 different sites about it.. Charts, information everything. Not to mention putting the two pictures side by side and pointing out differences that are way to extreme to be the same pup. Thanks for the help!
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Hi Billings....I live South of Missoula...so sorry to hear your first pup passed away....If you are wanting a standard yorkie...you won't be getting it with this pup....already 4 lbs+ at ten weeks...it will most likely be over 8lbs full grown.. I hope you get it sorted out...please keep us posted...
Hi Missoula! I'll be amazed if she actually goes through with it and delivers me any pup. I'm probably going to roll over and die if she gives me another pup which isn't either of the two she sent me pictures of.. I'll post tonight what happens.. I just wish I had my first pup Sidney. He was the cutest little guy ever. He's not replaceable by no means but she said it was the same mom and if the same mom can produce two WAY different dogs.. I'm amazed. :-/ I know you can get different sizes but this is way bigger than the last ones..
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