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Old 08-25-2009, 01:42 PM   #166
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Regarding the "ruining the breed" comment, and I guess most of the OP, I agree with previous posters in that this came across to me as an emotional vent. From her following posts, it did sound like she genuinely wanted help, not lashes. I know I felt overwhelmed when I had some trouble with Molly.

I took a break from this board a while back when I felt the same way. There were some posts/replies that definitely came across as condescending and just mean when I asked for advice. I don't think most people would post out here for help and not consider the advice given. And no, advice doesn't have to be sugar-coated, but caring and genuine, both for the poster and the dog. Ask questions to get a better feel of the problem. Take a few minutes when responding to put yourself in the other person's shoes.

Yorkie118, please overlook the negative responses. They may have been having a bad day as well. I believe that there are more compassionate owners out here than negative. You might find someone you think communicated help well and send them a message instead of posting. Good luck with your Yorkie. I found that a schedule was an immense help for me and Molly in the early days, and that advice came from someone out here who took the time to help.

I hope that with patience and understanding we all become the owners our babies deserve.
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Regarding the "ruining the breed" comment, and I guess most of the OP, I agree with previous posters in that this came across to me as an emotional vent. From her following posts, it did sound like she genuinely wanted help, not lashes. I know I felt overwhelmed when I had some trouble with Molly.

I took a break from this board a while back when I felt the same way. There were some posts/replies that definitely came across as condescending and just mean when I asked for advice. I don't think most people would post out here for help and not consider the advice given. And no, advice doesn't have to be sugar-coated, but caring and genuine, both for the poster and the dog. Ask questions to get a better feel of the problem. Take a few minutes when responding to put yourself in the other person's shoes.

Yorkie118, please overlook the negative responses. They may have been having a bad day as well. I believe that there are more compassionate owners out here than negative. You might find someone you think communicated help well and send them a message instead of posting. Good luck with your Yorkie. I found that a schedule was an immense help for me and Molly in the early days, and that advice came from someone out here who took the time to help.

I hope that with patience and understanding we all become the owners our babies deserve.
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Oh my....quite an uproar. I crate trained both of my babies. Chloe is now 11months, Milo is 8months. The way I use the crate is for their comfort. Dogs were originally in the wild. They slept in caves with their pack.
Both of my pups have their own crate, covered with a small blanket to create a dark space. I do not feed them there. I do not keep them in there except for when I leave the house and at bed time. Most stores (except food stores) gladly except my little ones in with me. I bought a stroller because they're getting a little big to be carried around.

When I'm home I keep them within my sight. I have puppy proofed my house and house proofed my puppies. I can cook, clean, do laundry, sew, be on the computer, watch TV, whatever the task may be. My yard is even puppy proofed. We have a pen outside that is covered (I fear hawks taking off with my babies).

It sounds like rather stressing you or the baby, you need to create an environment where he can be roam free and safe, and you don't have to worry.

I found that my puppies are much like little kids. They whine occasionally, bark at everything that moves, and completely would be out of control if I didn't take on a strict mommy (pack leader) role. I have a few online books that I have been willing to share on this forum and I would very much like you to have them. They teach you to be the alpha dog and ways to train that really work! If you're interested please e-mail me at babsydo30@hotmail.com and I will send you the copies ASAP!
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Yorkie118, I hope that you will not leave the forum. There are a lot of genuine people here and a lot of good information that you can learn. Please do not take it so personally.

Having said that, when Hot Rod came into our lives I knew nothing about owning a dog much less a yorkie. I have since learned that they definitely like attention and companionship. My vet even told us that there is nothing wrong with putting him in his crate should I need to do so while cooking dinner. I chose not to crate but did get an expen. I wound up blocking off the family room so basically his expen was the family room. He still had his crate in there although he never went back in once he got the freedom to roam. I was fortunate that I was able to be home with him. I would have him in the family room with me while I was doing whatever. I played with him, did exercises with him and taught him tricks. Now I have him and Maggie May in the office with me while I work on the computer. They sit/sleep on my desk, lol.

Dogs/animals are very sensitive and in tune with their owners feelings. You said that you have not connected with him, well, he may be feeling that and not understanding what is going on. All he knows is that his little world is not right and doesn't know how to make it right as he is totally dependent on you. You are the provider of his comfort and well being, if he cannot depend on you for that, then where does that leave him?

Look at things from this perspective...looks a whole lot differnent and gives you a whole different appreciation of what his little mind is going thru. What may make sense to us has not bearing on what he is thinking/feeling. He has a whole different set of values...basic values-food, comfort, pleasure, anxiety and fear. If these are not met, then he doesn't understand. Take things to the basics. You say that you have other dogs-they are all different, just as children.

I don't mean to sound as though I am judging you, I am not but you need to make sure that the dogs basic needs are met, that is all he knows. He doesn't know right from wrong--unless he's taught and then don't expect him to follow it just because you want him to-patience will tested to the limit.

Good luck and I hope you stick around. The good way outweighs the negativity.
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She has not left. She is online now. I doubt she is going anywhere.
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Oh my....quite an uproar. I crate trained both of my babies. Chloe is now 11months, Milo is 8months. The way I use the crate is for their comfort. Dogs were originally in the wild. They slept in caves with their pack.
Both of my pups have their own crate, covered with a small blanket to create a dark space. I do not feed them there. I do not keep them in there except for when I leave the house and at bed time. Most stores (except food stores) gladly except my little ones in with me. I bought a stroller because they're getting a little big to be carried around.

When I'm home I keep them within my sight. I have puppy proofed my house and house proofed my puppies. I can cook, clean, do laundry, sew, be on the computer, watch TV, whatever the task may be. My yard is even puppy proofed. We have a pen outside that is covered (I fear hawks taking off with my babies).

It sounds like rather stressing you or the baby, you need to create an environment where he can be roam free and safe, and you don't have to worry.

I found that my puppies are much like little kids. They whine occasionally, bark at everything that moves, and completely would be out of control if I didn't take on a strict mommy (pack leader) role. I have a few online books that I have been willing to share on this forum and I would very much like you to have them. They teach you to be the alpha dog and ways to train that really work! If you're interested please e-mail me at babsydo30@hotmail.com and I will send you the copies ASAP!
Take a breather and know that all of your problems you are having can be eluviated. It will get better!
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IMO this pup is totally bored, naturally it has no social skills---how can it it is never out of kennel long enough and does not get enough quality human contact
This pup is starving for attention!!!! Maybe if poster does still want this pup if it cries so much maybe she should try giving it more attention? Just a thought????? Good luck in your endeavor!!!!
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Did not mean to sound harsh, These little ones are quite time consuming and they can and will be brats. But as far as loveable? unconditionally this would be a yorkie often times alot of them are very needy...... Hang in there it will get better!!!!!! Hugs
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Well the Op was last on at 6:31pm today, so hopefully she is reading all this, even though she is not responding again.
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You should really try a xpen or play pen for him. I keep Libbie in one all day when I'm away or busy doing something and don't want her running around. It gives her room to run, make sure you put toys in there for him to play with so he doesn't get too bored and a pee pad just in case he pees or poo in there. Libbie still does it from time to time.

The only time I put her in a cage/dog carrier is when shes being bad. Its kind of like her time out.

I really hope this help..don't give up on him yet. Please try this and let me know how this works for him?
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The fact that she is reading these posts and not responding leads me to think it might have just been one of those threads made to start an uproar. There have been many many good suggetions on here and you would think she would at least come on and say, okay, I'll try it.
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The fact that she is reading these posts and not responding leads me to think it might have just been one of those threads made to start an uproar. There have been many many good suggetions on here and you would think she would at least come on and say, okay, I'll try it.
Maybe it was a thread to start and uproar, but she did respond on some of the earlier pages.

Hopefully it wasn't for that. I don't understand why some people would do that, but I know it has happened before.

Maybe this thread could just be closed down since it's not contributing anything except to raise some blood pressure!
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she hasnt responded to most of these posts in awhile, we really should just let this thread go.. and move on..
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First of all, I would like to say I am sorry for the trouble you are having with your Yorkie. As the owner of 5 Yorkies, I undertsand. As a matter of fact I just picked up my 3 & 4th puppies last night. ...
Good post. Didn't want to quote it all, but it was all good.
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Regarding the "ruining the breed" comment, and I guess most of the OP, I agree with previous posters in that this came across to me as an emotional vent. From her following posts, it did sound like she genuinely wanted help, not lashes. I know I felt overwhelmed when I had some trouble with Molly.

I took a break from this board a while back when I felt the same way. There were some posts/replies that definitely came across as condescending and just mean when I asked for advice. I don't think most people would post out here for help and not consider the advice given. And no, advice doesn't have to be sugar-coated, but caring and genuine, both for the poster and the dog. Ask questions to get a better feel of the problem. Take a few minutes when responding to put yourself in the other person's shoes.

Yorkie118, please overlook the negative responses. They may have been having a bad day as well. I believe that there are more compassionate owners out here than negative. You might find someone you think communicated help well and send them a message instead of posting. Good luck with your Yorkie. I found that a schedule was an immense help for me and Molly in the early days, and that advice came from someone out here who took the time to help.

I hope that with patience and understanding we all become the owners our babies deserve.
Thank you for this post. I've more or less left YT because I couldn't bear to read any more of the posts you referred to. It's all about manner and I think sometimes passion makes people forget that. I don't think there are any really bad people on here.

I will say one thing. Think how you would feel if you came back to a thread and found out people had been talking about you instead of to you? Just a thought.
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