How Come No One Told Me?

[BLowry]

Originally Posted by yorkie_mama22

I get that but her main issues she was asking for advice was to get him to stop crying in the crate!

If you leave ANY animal...not just a pup...crated as much as she has lead us to believe....this could be the reason why he is crying so much...I understand she doesn't want to step on him when she is cooking dinner, or want him around the table when they are eating....she could always gate him in another room...JMO

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by BLowry

If you leave ANY animal...not just a pup...crated as much as she has lead us to believe....this could be the reason why he is crying so much...I understand she doesn't want to step on him when she is cooking dinner, or want him around the table when they are eating....she could always gate him in another room...JMO

Agreed.
Once a pupster associates crating as an unpleasant place to be, it's over. It sounds to me like he is unhappy and honestly I don't blame him. It sounds like a jail cell instead of a safe and happy place to be.
That is my feedback on it.
OP if you think that is negative towards you, then I am sorry you feel that way. You came here asking for advice and people have given it as best they can. No one called you names or said you were awful. They simply pointed out how you might want to do things in a different way to help your pup learn.

[Arzel36]

Your first thread that you posted,asking for help. It was on (4-09-09}. What the ****?, is going on here? I can't believe that you are stilling having problems with your yorkie as you claiming on yt! Like another memember had stated on here........... you are taking this thread for a long ride, so what is next? What I personally begin to think of this is either you don't have the time nor patience for a yorkie. Or, you don't have a yorkie, and you just coming on yt, trying too get memeber's all stirred up over nothing probably! Because I refuse to believe that you still have this yorkie, but you still claiming that you still are having problems. I think you are just someone looking for entertainment thats all on yt!!!!!!!!!! Now, I gone and said the ****,and personally I don't care who doesn't like what I stated, but something isn't right here!

[AddieLove]

Originally Posted by shamrocks

This is a wonderful forum but to be completely honest I am a little afraid to ask for advice in fear that I might be judged harshly.

Please don't feel that way! We are all definitely here to help! I've asked several questions here, and I've only received the sweetest responses that were so helpful.

I think the issue with this post is the OP was unclear about a lot of things. If you read the original post, it does sound like she crates her pup a lot. Also, right from the beginning she insults the breed and those caring for and breeding yorkies.

You can't ask for advice from the people you insult. Well, you can, but you just won't receive a very cheery outcome.

Plus, several who go out of their way to give helpful advice had done so with two previous posts by the OP about basically the same topic. There was no response from the OP ever again. It's not that you have to respond to every single one or even say thank you. We just want to know how things are going so we can continue to be an active, positive, compassionate cheerleader for you and your pup. Many of us really care about the situation you and your pup are going through and want to continue to help.

Also, I think when the OP read the "I wish there was some sort of update or response" posts, she took it too far, and her attitude came off as childish with this "Fine. You want a response? I'll respond to every single person" attitude, which was really very unhelpful to the situation.

As long as you have a kind, compassionate attitude toward your pup and your post, you will receive the full support of so many.

And if you're frustrated, I've always found it best to wait ten minutes before asking for help. That way you can clearly and calmly ask without giving off any negative vibes. Negative beginnings beget negative ends.

Although, I should note if it's an emergency situation, screw the ten minutes and ask now because we understand anxiety and hyperventilation just fine.

[itzzbarb]

Alot has been said by the OP, and alot has been said by responders. Some good advice has been given, some opinions have been given, can we just lay this thread to rest and get on down the road?

[Krystee]

I think you misinterpreted many of the responses as "attacking" instead of "helping". I did say in my response that I felt he was in his crate way too much but I wasn't implying that you were doing it to be cruel or mean or that you didn't care about the dog.
I agree with BLowry that there is a good chance he is crying because he is in his crate too often and it could help if he had more freedom with an xpen or gating off an area. I did read up on crate training and like others have said, the crate needs to be a good place to them where they feel safe. If he is put in there every time you leave the room, it probably feels like a jail to him.
Also, I read your post to my husband to get another perspective and he made a good point. I'm not saying this is the case.... but you said that your husband is getting frustrated with him and calls you when you leave because the puppy is going crazy and crying... just make sure that your husband is patient with him and doesn't yell at him or anything because that will just make his anxiety much worse (again, I'm not saying he does but I thought I'd mention it).
Tobie used to cry and cry when I would leave him with my hubby so my hubby started playing with him and giving him attention while I was gone and he quickly stopped the crying.
I also mentioned the training in my first response because you said that you were having a hard time bonding with him. Just teaching him basic commands (like sit, lay down) is so rewarding and helps with behavior problems all around because your puppy learns to listen to you and follow instruction. It will also show him that you are the leader and make him feel more secure therefore helping with the separation anxiety.
My puppy is 8 months old and I went through separation anxiety with him so yes I do have advice on stuff that helped me so if you want to PM me, I would be glad to share those with you
I think all of us truly want to help you so that you and your Yorkie will be happy

Sorry if I repeated anything anyone just said, I began typing this after BLowry's reply

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by itzzbarb

Alot has been said by the OP, and alot has been said by responders. Some good advice has been given, some opinions have been given, can we just lay this thread to rest and get on down the road?

[rebeccag]

Originally Posted by addielove

please don't feel that way! We are all definitely here to help! I've asked several questions here, and i've only received the sweetest responses that were so helpful.

I think the issue with this post is the op was unclear about a lot of things. If you read the original post, it does sound like she crates her pup a lot. Also, right from the beginning she insults the breed and those caring for and breeding yorkies.

You can't ask for advice from the people you insult. Well, you can, but you just won't receive a very cheery outcome.

Plus, several who go out of their way to give helpful advice had done so with two previous posts by the op about basically the same topic. There was no response from the op ever again. It's not that you have to respond to every single one or even say thank you. We just want to know how things are going so we can continue to be an active, positive, compassionate cheerleader for you and your pup. Many of us really care about the situation you and your pup are going through and want to continue to help.

Also, i think when the op read the "i wish there was some sort of update or response" posts, she took it too far, and her attitude came off as childish with this "fine. You want a response? I'll respond to every single person" attitude, which was really very unhelpful to the situation.

As long as you have a kind, compassionate attitude toward your pup and your post, you will receive the full support of so many.

And if you're frustrated, i've always found it best to wait ten minutes before asking for help. That way you can clearly and calmly ask without giving off any negative vibes. Negative beginnings beget negative ends.

Although, i should note if it's an emergency situation, screw the ten minutes and ask now because we understand anxiety and hyperventilation just fine.

oops!

[rebeccag]

Originally Posted by Arzel36

Your first thread that you posted,asking for help. It was on (4-09-09}. What the ****?, is going on here? I can't believe that you are stilling having problems with your yorkie as you claiming on yt! Like another memember had stated on here........... you are taking this thread for a long ride, so what is next? What I personally begin to think of this is either you don't have the time nor patience for a yorkie. Or, you don't have a yorkie, and you just coming on yt, trying too get memeber's all stirred up over nothing probably! Because I refuse to believe that you still have this yorkie, but you still claiming that you still are having problems. I think you are just someone looking for entertainment thats all on yt!!!!!!!!!! Now, I gone and said the ****,and personally I don't care who doesn't like what I stated, but something isn't right here!

Okay, where is TOY when you need her???? I really wish she'd get off those GE threads and respond...hehe...really, I do though!

[bailie]

hi yorkie118, my old boy is 12. right up till he was 9 yrs old he suffered seperation anxiety and pee and poo every time he was left alone. even after walks. then i got beau, as a puppy. and i swear it was the best thing i ever done he stopped going to toilet after 9 years off doing it. beau is 3 now and i extended my family again now my sonny is just turned 1 he was easy to train. with the pee pads they are great, i never used any kind off crate. they all play together and also learn from each other. they sleep on my bed with me also. what a tight squeeze, but wud not have it any other way. so i wish u all the best with ur little one

[Yorkie118]

Just to let everyone know. I think my thread was taking the wrong way. I don't leave the dog in the cage ALL the time. If I live out of the room I DO take him with me unless I am going in the kitchen or going to check the mail. Like I stated, I live on a very busy street. I don't even let me kids come with me for that very reason. There have been some really nice response, ALOT of not so nice response. Thanks for them both. I've learned a lot. I'm going to take the positive responses and apply them and leave the negative ones where they are. I never thought people could be so curel. I have people telling me that I have a make believe dog and all this other crazy stuff. This is just too much. I thought this was a good group but I see that it's not. The puppy IS NOT crying because he is in the cage too long. He's crying because he DOES NOT like to be alone. That's the problem. Maybe I didn't express that correctly. I had always thought that people who loved animals were really nice people. I'm seeing that those very people who love animals can be really curel to people. It puzzles me because I can't see how those very people who have been so impatient, so insenstive, and so uncompassionant can be all those things to their dogs. If you can't show all these things to your fellow human how can you show these things to your beloved yorkie. I am SO DONE with the site. For all the positive response THANKS and I hope ALL goes well with you and also your pets. And for ALL the negative response I wish you all well also.

[bailie]

i am sorry to hear that there is mostly lovely people on this site . and some strict ones too it wud be a shame for u to leave as there is so much info on eveything u need to know about yorkies. please remember we are not all like that. i hope to hear for u again

[mscat]

Originally Posted by Yorkie118

Just to let everyone know. I think my thread was taking the wrong way. I don't leave the dog in the cage ALL the time. If I live out of the room I DO take him with me unless I am going in the kitchen or going to check the mail. Like I stated, I live on a very busy street. I don't even let me kids come with me for that very reason. There have been some really nice response, ALOT of not so nice response. Thanks for them both. I've learned a lot. I'm going to take the positive responses and apply them and leave the negative ones where they are. I never thought people could be so curel. I have people telling me that I have a make believe dog and all this other crazy stuff. This is just too much. I thought this was a good group but I see that it's not. The puppy IS NOT crying because he is in the cage too long. He's crying because he DOES NOT like to be alone. That's the problem. Maybe I didn't express that correctly. I had always thought that people who loved animals were really nice people. I'm seeing that those very people who love animals can be really curel to people. It puzzles me because I can't see how those very people who have been so impatient, so insenstive, and so uncompassionant can be all those things to their dogs. If you can't show all these things to your fellow human how can you show these things to your beloved yorkie. I am SO DONE with the site. For all the positive response THANKS and I hope ALL goes well with you and also your pets. And for ALL the negative response I wish you all well also.

Since he is crying because he does not want to be left alone, your solution is to place him back in his cage???
Your right their have been very good responses here for YOU and many opinions for you and to help you and your sad little male yorkie. However, instead , your feeling attacked, thinking they are being mean, cruel, insensitive, uncompassionant , or we are insulting you . I tried to help you myself understand that these are opinions and advice, not to take it personnaly , a lot of members here on YT are extremely experienced with the Yorkie breed, and Dogs . They wanted to help you.
I am sorry if you unable to realise this. Your Yorkie needs attention, love , guidance , patience , and not to be in a cage! Yes you stated he is not in there for long times .He should not be in there at all anymore.
He cries because he is not being treated right. PLain and simple . Something is missing for him . Try and provide more toys for him! He needs more play, and stimulation. Yorkies are very active . He craves love , play , acceptance , and a desire to know he is wanted! Yorkies are a incredible smart breed . This type of dog or puppy will respond the way he is being treated by his owner. He cries because he is not getting his needs met.

[JeanieK]

It still comes down to the fact that she got the dog way too young and was not experienced enough to know how to make up for the training that he would have gotten from his mother.

If the dog is that upsetting to the household, then it would be best to take the dog back to the breeder, and to get an older dog that is already trained and does not require the attention that a puppy does.

Puppies are not for everyone. Many dog lovers do not want to deal with the demands of a puppy. They are a lot of work and require a lot of attention for 2 years.

[rosey442]

Just wanted to say hi. I am a relatively new yorkie owner as well. I got Molly when she was 12 weeks old (but I had watched her grow on a weekly basis from the age of 2 weeks. I developed a very good report with her breeder as well.) Molly just turned 1 years old this past Wednesday. Anyway, I had always wanted a yorkie, I thought they were so adorable and loving. And, I had also heard that they can be little terrors as well as being notorious for toilet training issues. That they take much longer to train along as more effort to do so. So, for myself I chose to use washable pee pads both because of laziness and also because there are many days I don't feel well due to long term diabetes. We don't go out every single day for walks, between the above reasons and also because I have trouble with my feet (diabetic neuropathy, diabetic ulcers and bad balance). But, I play with her, my boys do and so does my granddaughter. Molly has tons of toys too of all kinds. She sleeps in bed with me at night, she sits either on my lap or next to me while I'm either on the computer or watching tv. She follows me and watches while I cook, do dishes, laundry,etc. She even follows me and sits beside me while in the bathroom. If I'm in the shower, she sits and waits in front of the tub on the bath mat. My only complaint with her that I have is: she uses the pee pads to pee and occasionally to poop. But, she uses the hallway outside my son's bedrooms and poops on the carpet. That drives me crazy with her. I also never used crate training either. I do have a wire crate, but after a couple of nights of listening to her cry, I felt bad for her and let her out. So, I myself failed in the crate training. So, I really can't blame Molly for something I did. So, after doing more reading and seeing how well my daughter did with crate training with her dog (a pug who's 3 months older than Molly, but who also has a much more submissive manner than Molly does also.) , my daughter will be taking Molly and working with her to better train her. I also have a dominance issue going on with Molly that needs correcting, also my fault that my daughter's going to help "fix".
Anyway, I certainly sympathize with you in your frustrations. However, it doesn't sound like toilet training and dominance (common problems) issues are your problems. It certainly sounds like some sort of separation anxiety issue is going on here. And, I'm certainly no expert. Perhaps, if training class/advice, books, videos, etc., doesn't/isn't helping; then perhaps a visit to the vet is in order. Maybe some medication to calm him while using some of the techniques that different YT'ers have suggested here might work better then. A friend of mine adopted a dog with anxiety issues and the dog was placed on tranquilizers for a while. It made a tremendous difference. After a while the medication was no longer needed.
I just want to say I'm not a big believer in unnecessarily medicating a dog, but sometimes it is needed and makes all the difference in the world.
Anyway, whatever you end up trying, I wish you the best of luck and that it works and that both you and your dog end up in a healthy, satisfying and loving relationship.