Rare colored yorkies?

[oopsmyhalofello]

Originally Posted by BrownCow45

I found a breeders website today and she bred rare colored yorkies. I remember there was golden and tri- colored yorkies on there and they where akc. I didn't know there could be other colors ?

By the looks of it, it all looked like mix-breeds for a bit the way she put the colors it seemed like it was a breed over a color. Does that make sense?

I was wondering does anyone have a rare colored yorkie?
Or seen one?

I'll just answer your question I have a chocolate colored yorkie

[Pinehaven]

Originally Posted by manolos mom

How Long have Parti Yorkies been around. Do we have members who own an Older Parti. Just Curious about health. AKC have accepted many new breeds wonder if one day they will accept Parti's. Is'nt Chinese Crested now considered a BREED.

The parti's have been around since the beginning of the breed. Ernest Hemmingway's grandfather owned a white yorkshire terrier named Tassel back in the early 1900's (around the time of 1900-1915).

Since AKC did now allow any color to be registered other than the standard prior to the year 2000, parti and other off colored pups were given away, and some were destroyed when they appeared in litters. It was thought that these off colors were a genetic freak of nature, unhealthy or weak. Some people thought that maybe the wrong stud bred their girl (maybe the maltese or some other spotted stud). They didn't realize that it was recessive genes at work and that both sire and dam needed to be carrying the recessive genes for those off colors.

During the late 1990's when AKC did an investigation on the parti color showing up consistently in one line of yorkies, AKC extensively DNA'd the pups and as many living relatives as possible, they interviewed some very well known and highly regarded old time breeders who were breeding in the 1920's - 1980's and these breeders told AKC that they had parti appear in their own litters. One breeder in particular has written books on the Yorkshire terrier breed and many if not all of the parti's we see today are tracing back to her champion dogs. Some surprise litters of partis that are being produced today from two traditional colored yorkies, are a tracing back to these champion dogs 50 years later.

[Pinehaven]

Originally Posted by SRD

I personally do not own or have seen a rare colored yorkie. so I cannot speak about health related issues with them. but I do realized from this site that most parti yorkie breeders are charging more simply because supply/demand retio is low, I just cannot justify that to myself. I would rather pay extra for a yorkie that has very close to standards features.

To clarify, the supply is low but the demand is high.

Originally Posted by SRD

I do own a blue/grey color chihuahua, which is considered "rare" in chihuahuas (with the exception that AKC recognizes all colors in chihuahuas). her vet has told me about all the extra skin issues with these "rare" colored ones, and my girl is only 4 and is already losing tons of hair! so "rare" does not necessarily mean good!

I'm guessing your blue chihuahua has the condition known as color dilution alopecia, one of the issues with these dogs is hair loss among other problems. That is one of the off colors sometimes seen in the yorkie, that I would never recommend breeding for.

[manolos mom]

Thank you for that...Your dogs are GORGOUS....Lissette

[Pinehaven]

Originally Posted by nanahas3

I am not a show person or a breeder and have just had my little yorkie a few months but i think the little furbaby in pinehavens avatar without the bow has to be one of the most beautiful furbabies I have ever seen and other that color looks exactly like other yorkies. I understand from hours of reading on here the breed standard issues but I also understand the genetic issues. I happen to love the looks of traditional yorkies but would be very proud also if I had one like that little guy. Hope I dont offend any breeders just a personal observation.

Thank for the compliment on my guy. The boy without the bow is named Another Wylde Parti, aka Wyle. He's the newest member of my group. :-)

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by fuzzy123

Sorry, I should've posted some links. Here is the same exact article posted twice:

Biewer Terrier History

Biewer Terrier Registry History for the Biewer Breed

Some further info:

History

Biewer Breed Club International ~ Biewer Health Registry ~ The first Health Registry for the breed!!!

These are just a couple of organizations that discuss their origin. And yes, it would be nice to hear from a Biewer breeder.

That all depends on who you ask. Opinions and theories on the genetic makeup of Biewers is not something that is widely agreed on at this point. The historical origins of the Biewers state otherwise. In any event, it's too much of an unproven, gray area to be using as the basis for argument at this point.

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by fuzzy123

It all comes down to how you define "responsible breeding." The biggest key to a responsible breeder is that he/she loves his/her dogs and breeds for health. Everyone's idea of what looks good differs. Whether you like it or not, there are many people whose idea of what looks good differs from AKC standards. For example, you and I might think erect ears look the best, but not everyone thinks like you or I do, like it or not. The looks that people breed for are secondary to a breeder's love for their dogs (which shows through the health and temperament of their lines).

You are definately right about that, not everyone has the same definition of what defines a breeder as "responsible"--one reason why there is a surplus of ill-bred Yorkies out there these days and why people are constantly posting up here wondering if their 12 pound, flop eared, black pooch is really a Yorkie as his breeder passed him off to be.

How can one profess to be a Yorkie breeder and enthusiasts if the very definition and description of the breed offends them? (not so much directed to breeders of non-standard colored dogs, just in regards to the statement that physical characteristics of the dog don't matter)

[fuzzy123]

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

You are definately right about that, not everyone has the same definition of what defines a breeder as "responsible"--one reason why there is a surplus of ill-bred Yorkies out there these days and why people are constantly posting up here wondering if their 12 pound, flop eared, black pooch is really a Yorkie as his breeder passed him off to be.

How can one profess to be a Yorkie breeder and enthusiasts if the very definition and description of the breed offends them? (not so much directed to breeders of non-standard colored dogs, just in regards to the statement that physical characteristics of the dog don't matter)

Who said that physical characteristics of the dog don't matter? Don't put words in people's mouths. Physical characteristics should matter very much to responsible breeders, but not all breeders' preferences are the same. Duh.

If physical characteristics don't matter to a breeder, then what's the point of breeding? There would be no point in breeding. Physical characteristics matter, but what matters the MOST is HEALTH. Responsible breeders would agree to that.

[shelbypickles]

Originally Posted by manolos mom

Are you in the military or his your husband..

My husband is, why?

[manolos mom]

Originally Posted by shelbypickles

My husband is, why?

Let him know we appreciate him serving our country....Thank you....

[kpstoybox]

Originally Posted by shelbypickles

Parti or whatever your furbaby is beautiful! I would love to have him!

Awe...thanks so much. He is as sweet as he is pretty.

[kpstoybox]

Originally Posted by manolos mom

WOW he is gorgous...

Thanks!!

[shelbypickles]

Originally Posted by manolos mom

Let him know we appreciate him serving our country....Thank you....

Thank you. He doesn't hear that often enough. You don't know how wonderful it is to hear that.

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by fuzzy123

Who said that physical characteristics of the dog don't matter? Don't put words in people's mouths.

Oh I believe they matter a great deal--that's the point I was trying to make overall. I just think it's a shame that to some breeders, the physical traits that actually define the Yorkie don't matter. I think that health is of upmost importance too...I don't believe that anyone claimed otherwise. But IMO, it shouldn't be one or the other--you shouldn't overlook the health because a dog adheres to the standard perfectly, likewise you shouldn't breed a poor physical representation of the breed because it is free of health defects. It's a package deal--you should breed for BOTH, which is one thing that makes breeding a tricky venture.

[cooperk]

Originally Posted by Pinehaven

Here are some other links that give a different view:

Pine Haven Yorkies - Parti

All about the Red

I found these two sites to be very refreshing and informative. It seems to me that the color variation genes have always been in the AKC Yorkie lines. I would love to see the color variations celebrated and become a standard in the AKC. I also find the goldens and chocolates absolutely gorgeous. IMP more concentration on avoiding the health issues would be more constructive.