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shelbypickles · 03-01-2009, 05:15 PM

This is getting ugly really fast...

I am confused about all the color talk. I am not one for breeding, as ours is a pet, and I don't care about pedigrees as long as she is healthy. I guess I don't belong here?

fuzzy123 · 03-01-2009, 05:21 PM

The best way to find out about potential health hazards is to get to know off colored breeders and their dogs. Don't trust everything you hear, especially things you hear from people who have never even met an off colored Yorkie.

ycats · 03-01-2009, 05:24 PM

I have a beautiful little yorkie . . . he is going to be seven months old on the 4th of March . . . and so far he is a "standard" color. However . . . I am in love with the Biewers. What is the difference between the Biewers and the parti-colored yorkies. They look the same? I try to stay away from these threads . . . but I have had this question for a while and finally got the nerve to ask.

Missiemiss · 03-01-2009, 05:26 PM

ShelbyPickles - of course you belong here! Please don't let some very opinionated people run you off.

There are some that have very strong beliefs in the standard and do not see any deviation from that as being ok.

There are some that realize that genetics plays a role in breeding and some genetic material will pass that is no necessarily in line with breed standard.

These are debates are bigger than YT. What is more important is that you are here, that you love your baby, as we all do.

Welcome!

Missiemiss · 03-01-2009, 05:28 PM

Oh boy........tell me that wasn't asked.........*pouring a beer* and

manolos mom · 03-01-2009, 05:31 PM

How Long have Parti Yorkies been around. Do we have members who own an Older Parti. Just Curious about health. AKC have accepted many new breeds wonder if one day they will accept Parti's. Is'nt Chinese Crested now considered a BREED.

shelbypickles · 03-01-2009, 05:33 PM

Missiemiss- Thanks, I just don't get all the hostility over how much of a certain color is on a dog. But I am new to the world of Yorkies so I may just not get it. Ours was a rescue here in Korea, so...I wasn't concerned about if she conformed to the standard just that she was healthy and happy. Which she is. (Best 50,000 won we have ever paid -roughly 33.00 bucks American)

The only dog I have ever paid more than 100 bucks for is my Jack Russell and they don't really have many standards on color. It is pretty much a free for all.

I do have a question on coloring. Shelby has some grey/silver undertone on her head. She is 4 months old. Is this normal?

Missiemiss · 03-01-2009, 05:38 PM

Manalos Mom - yes, there are some of us on site that have parti's. Some that have Biewers and others with goldens.

shelbyPickles (BTW - I LOVE THE NAME!) The hostility is over the values of each breeder - I think people do not like them questioned and it's easy to do that online, hiding behind a keyboard. Enjoy your baby - love it and appreciate it every day.

Just know the hostility comes from the passion of each person and how they feel about Yorkies. I too am passionate but have no longer felt the need to try to "sell" someone on something they don't agree with. I just love what I have, try to improve their health at all times and appreciate every day I have with them.

One of my males had the silver/gray undertones - it was almost white! ONce he reached adulthood he turned tan. He's gorgeous - tan and steel blue.

manolos mom · 03-01-2009, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by shelbypickles

Missiemiss- Thanks, I just don't get all the hostility over how much of a certain color is on a dog. But I am new to the world of Yorkies so I may just not get it. Ours was a rescue here in Korea, so...I wasn't concerned about if she conformed to the standard just that she was healthy and happy. Which she is. (Best 50,000 won we have ever paid -roughly 33.00 bucks American)

The only dog I have ever paid more than 100 bucks for is my Jack Russell and they don't really have many standards on color. It is pretty much a free for all.

I do have a question on coloring. Shelby has some grey/silver undertone on her head. She is 4 months old. Is this normal?

First of all love your Avatar pic. Bunny ears so cute. Yes its like getting a new present. Your pup will change colors. I think most stop around one year.

fuzzy123 · 03-01-2009, 05:41 PM

Biewers originated from Germany and are mixed with other breed/s, while parti's are a result of a recessive gene that resides in Yorkie DNA. They look similar from afar but Biewers have a set standard in color markings, which can be easily found if you look it up on google. Biewers cannot be registered with the AKC, whereas parti Yorkies can as they are Yorkies. Biewers are several pounds bigger on average and stockier. Many say they that Shih Tzu's were mixed into their lineage.

shelbypickles · 03-01-2009, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by manolos mom

First of all love your Avatar pic. Bunny ears so cute. Yes its like getting a new present. Your pup will change colors. I think most stop around one year.

Thanks everyone! You all must get annoyed with answering the same newbie questions all the time. I tried to read all the genetic info and I had Vietnam level flashbacks to Genetics class(which I failed miserably in college). So I just wanted the simple answer.

In Korea there are TONS of Yorkies(or at least ones that look like Yorkies) and there is always at least one store that is dedicated to clothing for dogs. The bunny outfit was like 10,000 won(like 6 bucks American).

SRD · 03-01-2009, 05:48 PM

I personally do not own or have seen a rare colored yorkie. so I cannot speak about health related issues with them. but I do realized from this site that most parti yorkie breeders are charging more simply because supply/demand retio is low, I just cannot justify that to myself. I would rather pay extra for a yorkie that has very close to standards features.

I do own a blue/grey color chihuahua, which is considered "rare" in chihuahuas (with the exception that AKC recognizes all colors in chihuahuas). her vet has told me about all the extra skin issues with these "rare" colored ones, and my girl is only 4 and is already losing tons of hair! so "rare" does not necessarily mean good!

fuzzy123 · 03-01-2009, 05:49 PM

The AKC does accept parti's and have allowed them to be registered as Yorkies for several years already. They just won't let them be shown in the ring. In contrast, pretty much any colored Chinese Crested can be shown in the ring.

jeanm1963 · 03-01-2009, 05:53 PM

On a side note because this thread is getting a little shakey, I am not AKC registered ( LOL) but both my parents are medium skinned ( skin people) with very very dark hair, I have flaming redhair and lots and lots of freckles... maybe yorkies are the same. Just because thier parents look one way there has to be a blood line like humans that can cause them to look different then thier parents do.. ya think maybe Im adopted and they forgot to tell me

manolos mom · 03-01-2009, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by fuzzy123

The AKC does accept parti's and have allowed them to be registered as Yorkies for several years already. They just won't let them be shown in the ring. In contrast, pretty much any colored Chinese Crested can be shown in the ring.

I think Parti's are stunning and hope to see them in the ring one day...

03-01-2009, 05:15 PM	#31
shelbypickles Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Seoul South Korea Posts: 28	This is getting ugly really fast... I am confused about all the color talk. I am not one for breeding, as ours is a pet, and I don't care about pedigrees as long as she is healthy. I guess I don't belong here? __________________ Beth and Robert Shelby Missing her since March 16 2012 and Punky Jack Russell Terrorist

03-01-2009, 05:24 PM	#33
ycats Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Hamilton, Georgia, usa Posts: 83	I have a beautiful little yorkie . . . he is going to be seven months old on the 4th of March . . . and so far he is a "standard" color. However . . . I am in love with the Biewers. What is the difference between the Biewers and the parti-colored yorkies. They look the same? I try to stay away from these threads . . . but I have had this question for a while and finally got the nerve to ask. __________________ Stacy, Stewart's Mommy

03-01-2009, 05:26 PM	#34
Missiemiss Donating Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Iowa Posts: 651	ShelbyPickles - of course you belong here! Please don't let some very opinionated people run you off. There are some that have very strong beliefs in the standard and do not see any deviation from that as being ok. There are some that realize that genetics plays a role in breeding and some genetic material will pass that is no necessarily in line with breed standard. These are debates are bigger than YT. What is more important is that you are here, that you love your baby, as we all do. Welcome! __________________ Gracie Froto Blair and RIP Bear-Bear 12/31/08 & RIP Roscoe 06/12/08 Free Samples! All-Natural, High-quality Pet food for your Furbaby! http://www.trilogyonline.com/missiemiss

03-01-2009, 05:28 PM	#35
Missiemiss Donating Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Iowa Posts: 651	Oh boy........tell me that wasn't asked.........pouring a beer and __________________ Gracie Froto Blair and RIP Bear-Bear 12/31/08 & RIP Roscoe 06/12/08 Free Samples! All-Natural, High-quality Pet food for your Furbaby! http://www.trilogyonline.com/missiemiss

03-01-2009, 05:33 PM	#37
shelbypickles Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Seoul South Korea Posts: 28	Missiemiss- Thanks, I just don't get all the hostility over how much of a certain color is on a dog. But I am new to the world of Yorkies so I may just not get it. Ours was a rescue here in Korea, so...I wasn't concerned about if she conformed to the standard just that she was healthy and happy. Which she is. (Best 50,000 won we have ever paid -roughly 33.00 bucks American) The only dog I have ever paid more than 100 bucks for is my Jack Russell and they don't really have many standards on color. It is pretty much a free for all. I do have a question on coloring. Shelby has some grey/silver undertone on her head. She is 4 months old. Is this normal? __________________ Beth and Robert Shelby Missing her since March 16 2012 and Punky Jack Russell Terrorist

03-01-2009, 05:21 PM	#32
fuzzy123 Yorkie Talker Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Davis, CA Posts: 22	The best way to find out about potential health hazards is to get to know off colored breeders and their dogs. Don't trust everything you hear, especially things you hear from people who have never even met an off colored Yorkie.

03-01-2009, 05:31 PM	#36
manolos mom Donating YT 4000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 7,982	How Long have Parti Yorkies been around. Do we have members who own an Older Parti. Just Curious about health. AKC have accepted many new breeds wonder if one day they will accept Parti's. Is'nt Chinese Crested now considered a BREED.

03-01-2009, 05:38 PM	#38
Missiemiss Donating Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Iowa Posts: 651	Manalos Mom - yes, there are some of us on site that have parti's. Some that have Biewers and others with goldens. shelbyPickles (BTW - I LOVE THE NAME!) The hostility is over the values of each breeder - I think people do not like them questioned and it's easy to do that online, hiding behind a keyboard. Enjoy your baby - love it and appreciate it every day. Just know the hostility comes from the passion of each person and how they feel about Yorkies. I too am passionate but have no longer felt the need to try to "sell" someone on something they don't agree with. I just love what I have, try to improve their health at all times and appreciate every day I have with them. One of my males had the silver/gray undertones - it was almost white! ONce he reached adulthood he turned tan. He's gorgeous - tan and steel blue. __________________ Gracie Froto Blair and RIP Bear-Bear 12/31/08 & RIP Roscoe 06/12/08 Free Samples! All-Natural, High-quality Pet food for your Furbaby! http://www.trilogyonline.com/missiemiss Last edited by Missiemiss; 03-01-2009 at 05:40 PM.

03-01-2009, 05:41 PM	#40
fuzzy123 Yorkie Talker Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Davis, CA Posts: 22	Biewers originated from Germany and are mixed with other breed/s, while parti's are a result of a recessive gene that resides in Yorkie DNA. They look similar from afar but Biewers have a set standard in color markings, which can be easily found if you look it up on google. Biewers cannot be registered with the AKC, whereas parti Yorkies can as they are Yorkies. Biewers are several pounds bigger on average and stockier. Many say they that Shih Tzu's were mixed into their lineage.

03-01-2009, 05:48 PM	#42
SRD Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Orlando Posts: 490	I personally do not own or have seen a rare colored yorkie. so I cannot speak about health related issues with them. but I do realized from this site that most parti yorkie breeders are charging more simply because supply/demand retio is low, I just cannot justify that to myself. I would rather pay extra for a yorkie that has very close to standards features. I do own a blue/grey color chihuahua, which is considered "rare" in chihuahuas (with the exception that AKC recognizes all colors in chihuahuas). her vet has told me about all the extra skin issues with these "rare" colored ones, and my girl is only 4 and is already losing tons of hair! so "rare" does not necessarily mean good! __________________ Mommymy princesses Shorty & Dolly

03-01-2009, 05:49 PM	#43
fuzzy123 Yorkie Talker Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Davis, CA Posts: 22	The AKC does accept parti's and have allowed them to be registered as Yorkies for several years already. They just won't let them be shown in the ring. In contrast, pretty much any colored Chinese Crested can be shown in the ring.

03-01-2009, 05:53 PM	#44
jeanm1963 Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Weymouth, Ma Posts: 2,584	On a side note because this thread is getting a little shakey, I am not AKC registered ( LOL) but both my parents are medium skinned ( skin people) with very very dark hair, I have flaming redhair and lots and lots of freckles... maybe yorkies are the same. Just because thier parents look one way there has to be a blood line like humans that can cause them to look different then thier parents do.. ya think maybe Im adopted and they forgot to tell me