Some People are SO MEAN!!!!!

[MyFairLacy]

Originally Posted by EmrldShdwQueen

Wow, just wow. I usually stay out of the drama and these heated threads...but I can't hold it in on this one. I have several things to say.

First of all, WHY is it that nobody can have their OWN opinion about something without getting jumped on? We can ALL have our own thoughts about things and others should RESPECT those thoughts no matter what they are! So making rude comments about each other gets you right down to the level as the person who sent the nasty email.

Second, it is a PERSONAL decision whether or not you want to have children, and I don't think this thread has ANYTHING whatsover to do with that...I can't for the life of me understand why you're jumping on someone for that reason. It's her body, her life. I DO want children, but I personally respect anyone who doesn't, because they have their own reasons. And I REALLY REALLY don't want to get into this...God help me for saying this...but if an "accident" happens, in her case, if she doesn't want a child, there are PLENTY of other options...again, case closed on that one...I DO NOT want to open up that debate.

MY dogs ARE my children right now, and before I got my VERY first one I considered EVERYTHING, including what I would do if I had a child who was allergic. First of all, I don't want children for quite a while. And, while I hope I NEVER have to make that decision, and I'm sure I'll be criticized for this, so here we go...but I wouldn't choose either over the other...call me CRAZY but again my dogs ARE my children, and I WOULD NOT choose my human child over my fur child, or visaversa. I just wouldn't. There are allergy remedies, medicine, etc. now...we are living in 2007...and I KNOW of several people who have dog or cat allergies who are able to have them simply by taking a pill or liquid everyday. Yeah, yeah, go on with the rude comments, I know they're coming. But I WOULD NOT choose, it just wouldn't be an option...

Now, that being said, I also feel that it's, again, a PERSONAL choice whether you rehome your dogs or not. I AM NOT saying that EVERYONE who has a child who's allergic should not rehome their dog(s), I would NEVER say that. It is UP to the individual, not all of you.

And, last thing, I think. What a breeder chooses to do with his/her dogs, WHERE they choose to place them is THEIR decision, and I DO NOT believe that's negotiable. They are the ones who spent countless time and money on bettering their dogs, and they should have EVERY right in the WORLD to decide who their dogs go to. And if you don't like their policy, GET A DOG FROM SOMEONE ELSE! There are PLENTY of dog breeders, good and bad, show and pet quality, who will sell their dogs to someone recently married or with children. There is no reason to argue about that, NOT ONE. It's the breeders business. They raised them, they are the ONLY ones who have a valid point about where they should and will go.

...End rant....

I agree with ALL of that

I know this sounds terrible, but I've always said that if for some reason I had a child with allergies, I'd have to rehome the kid and not the pets. I couldn't live without having pets... And because I feel that way, just another reason for me to not have children.

And yes, I didn't say it, but if an "accident" happened, there are other options out there

[buddybramble]

Originally Posted by Brooklynn

I would normally keep my mouth shut on this subject but here goes LOL....I use to say I wouldn't re-home any of my yorkies and some of them I can say will never go anywhere but I will be re-homing a retired show bitch sometime within the upcoming year. And I agree with one of the posters here I probably love my dogs more than I do most people. I wouldn't even give my dogs up for my husband or child and I love them both dearly. So really in order to live with me you have to live with my dogs...but again, I will be re-homing this retired show female and eventually in the future I will have more retired show dogs that will be re-homed. The pets I have now will be mine until they cross over to rainbow bridge. To really love my show dogs re-homing them into a loving home after they are retired is really in their best interest. The pet yorkies I have now you couldn't pry them away from me even if I were flat broke, living in my car, lost my job, whatever they just aren't going anywhere...we'll eat out of garbage cans together if we have too
Anyway like it or not it's me and the way I do things plain and simple! Like or Not oh well.....

Donna Bird
Brooklynn's Yorkshire Terriers

Sorry i know this is off topic a bit but where do the show dogs live then? when you have 'pets' plus dogs that you show are they kept separate? i'm just wondering how you manage to not fall completely in love with the 'show dogs' and therefore never be able to re-home cos you love them so much like you said you couldn't possibly rehome your pet ones?
I'm honestly curious nothing nasty meant i just remember when i was a kid we got a rough collie for my nan after my grandad died and we had sunny (the collie) at home for the weekend before we took him to my nans, it was awful we all fell in love within the first day and my mum and dad had to go back to the breeder and buy the other brother that was still there
so i'm just wondering how you keep them feelings in check so that you don't end up with 100s of dogs?

[pepe mint]

I am reminded of when Denise got Macy and publicly let us all know that she did not feel like she was bonding with Macy and that it just wasn't the right time for her...so she returned Macy to the breeder. Days later, she found Maddie (her dog that was stolen). not one single person here bashed her for her decision to return Macy. None of us knew that she would later find Maddie. We just knew that she was doing right by her new pup and returning the pup to the breeder was the best decision. all of the support Denise received was overwhelming and wonderful. That is what this forum is truly about. and SHOULD be about!!!

i don't see how this decision by this person is any different. she knows she cannot give her pup the home she needs and deserves...so she is doing what is right by the pup.

and i will also say...those who live in glass houses should not throw stones!!!

[Shadow]

I think if I felt this strongly I would have a hysterectomy.I just would not chance it,notice I said "I".

Originally Posted by MyFairLacy

I agree with ALL of that

I know this sounds terrible, but I've always said that if for some reason I had a child with allergies, I'd have to rehome the kid and not the pets. I couldn't live without having pets... And because I feel that way, just another reason for me to not have children.

And yes, I didn't say it, but if an "accident" happened, there are other options out there

[MyFairLacy]

Originally Posted by Shadow

I think if I felt this strongly I would have a hysterectomy.I just would not chance it,notice I said "I".

I was actually talking to my mom about that over Thanksgiving but doctors don't allow you to do that normally. I think even to have your tubes tied you have to be a certain age and/or have had so many children. I'm not sure if they'd even let someone have a hysterectomy unless there is a medical issue. Surgery seems kindof scary too

[hha]

Originally Posted by Shadow

I think if I felt this strongly I would have a hysterectomy.I just would not chance it,notice I said "I".

[Txgurl06]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

Not placing my pups with young marrieds because I feel they'll be inadequate or responsible pet owners is not my reason......The reason is that they will be planning a family and their situation and life style will change. The children will come first, as they should be. But, being very picky on where my pups go, I don't want to place them on the wrong side of statistics.

If i was a breeder i dont think i would place with people with small children either! Im sorry but thats JMO like everyone else has stated! I hardly have any of my bf's nieces or nephews come over since i have my yorkies. A small child doesnt understand an animal is like us! they dont see where we all are similar! A child will just grab a animal not knowing that it might hurt it. There is a huge difference between adults and children. For those of you that say that some adults without children are mean to their pups then thats what screening the family is for. You just dont adopt out to anyone. You really have to be cautious of every situation and family!! There are her mardelins dogs and like she said there are plenty of breeders that will adopt to these people if thats the case but she doesnt want to take part in that. I am young and i will get married one day! I dont want kids but if it happens it happens! im glad someone gave me a chance to own my pups but i cants say if i was a breeder that i would do the same. I hope that doesnt sound bad lol!



Now for rehoming im partial on it! I know i would rather a pet be rehomed to a loving family than to suffer. But then there are those situations where the pup did get to big and people rehome and stuff like that and i dont agree with this! I know this is not the case with the OP's friend! She loves her pets dearly and hopefully she will get to keep her pup but if not then all we can do is pray for the pups sake that as owners and dog lovers that she do whatever is best for the pup!

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by buddybramble

Sorry i know this is off topic a bit but where do the show dogs live then? when you have 'pets' plus dogs that you show are they kept separate? i'm just wondering how you manage to not fall completely in love with the 'show dogs' and therefore never be able to re-home cos you love them so much like you said you couldn't possibly rehome your pet ones?
I'm honestly curious nothing nasty meant i just remember when i was a kid we got a rough collie for my nan after my grandad died and we had sunny (the collie) at home for the weekend before we took him to my nans, it was awful we all fell in love within the first day and my mum and dad had to go back to the breeder and buy the other brother that was still there
so i'm just wondering how you keep them feelings in check so that you don't end up with 100s of dogs?

I'll answer for Donna...as she raises her dogs like I do. Her dogs live in her house and have the run of the house as her pets do. Yes, you do fall in love with them, very deeply....but, as an exhibitor/breeder your breeding program must be kept to a manageable size. Once a girl has finished her show and breeding career, she's spayed....if we kept every single one until they passed, it would soon get out of hand. We usually place them with friends or family, where we can still see them and keep tabs on them......

Believe me those feelings aren't kept in check....with every pup that leaves my home..Your throat tightens up, find it difficult to breath and cry for days.....Probably why I only breed 1 maybe 2 litters a year.....

[Txgurl06]

Originally Posted by MyFairLacy

I was actually talking to my mom about that over Thanksgiving but doctors don't allow you to do that normally. I think even to have your tubes tied you have to be a certain age and/or have had so many children. I'm not sure if they'd even let someone have a hysterectomy unless there is a medical issue. Surgery seems kindof scary too

what about having your tubes burned. My mom had hers tied and burned.
is having them burned any better?

[pepe mint]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

Believe me those feelings aren't kept in check....with every pup that leaves my home..Your throat tightens up, find it difficult to breath and cry for days.....Probably why I only breed 1 maybe 2 litters a year.....

yep...this is how i will be. i think i will cry every single time. but the joy of knowing you have made the dreams come true for someone who has wanted such a precious baby for so long (as in my case when i got maggie), i bet that feeling helps you feel better...even if just a little bit.

[MyFairLacy]

Originally Posted by Txgurl06

what about having your tubes burned. My mom had hers tied and burned.
is having them burned any better?

I don't know... I guess when I get married and need to figure all that out, I'll discuss the best options with my doctor. Maybe they'll develop 100% effective birth control by then

[bren]

Originally Posted by Txgurl06

what about having your tubes burned. My mom had hers tied and burned.
is having them burned any better?

most doctors will not tie tubes (or burn or whatever they do) if you are under a certain age in case the person changes her mind about having children. I've heard about this happening to a handful of people I know. One of these women already had 4 kids but was under the age of 35 and the doctor STILL wouldn't do it.

[Wylie's Mom]

Wow. Kinda wish I had temporary "admin powers" - bc there are a few members who were beyond nasty. You know, if you re-read the over-arching theme of the original post - it's truly about RESPECT - and then the thread continues with all of this disrespect.

1st, my heart goes out to anyone in a re-homing situation. PERIOD.

2nd, I don't believe in re-homing an animal any more than I believe in re-homing a human. That's ME. And, I am of sound body and mind and age (for you age-ists) to make this statement with 100% of my conviction. That's what I believe. PERIOD.

3rd, I respect one's choice - but when a person posts in a public forum about re-homing (or anything else for that matter), I think they should be prepared for responses that don't necessarily agree with them. And you know what? That's okay - as long as it's done respectfully. And if someone chooses to try to "educate" a re-homer about the down side of re-homing, that's their prerogative. But, geez, be compassionate about it if you're taking the liberty of said prerogative.

[peanut]

I am amazed at some of the stuff that goes on YT...you would think that I would know better, I don't know who, when, where or why someone would email a person and say bad things about them re-homing...I have 4 yorkies , 2 puppies and 1 big GSD, 1 of mine I took in a year ago as a rehome, and thank God I did, Mac is the best yorkie around.Here is my problem with the whole thing...since everyone else is giving there 2 cents worth...
I love YT its like a family to me, and I know some disagree, but my gosh people, if you have a reason for rehoming it must be pretty bad, I 100% support it for the purpose of getting the baby a new a great home, and yes the one about rehoming because of another, ticked me off, but then I thought about the dog is better off because if they will rehome it for that reason. How would you feel if you had cancer and knew you were dieing and had to find homes for them, or if you couldn't make ends meet after working 50 hours a week and could barely feed them, or you had to move and the only place you could go to wouldn't let you have them, are you suppose to live on the streets, is that a good home for you and your dog...or you had to work 60 hours and left it home all by itself all the time, which is better to find the dog a home or keep it cause you don't believe in rehoming...I just brought this up because we have no idea what is going on with people or there situation..

It takes a big person and I am taking alot of heart and soul for someone on here that needs to rehome because of there situation...we are all crazy in love with our animals, well most of us , I would give mine a kidney if I had to..I had to put one down a few years ago due to liver shunt and I cried everyday for a year over Tucker, but I did what I thought was best for him...that is call LOVE people, and some people love there dogs so much that it about kills them but they rehome..Life without animals has to be very hard and cruel, but to hang on to a dog, give it no time, lock up for long hours, hardly ever human contact, or don't have enough money for food or your medical condition prohibits then I am sorry for the people that don't understand...God forbid you had to go through something like this.....
I have a problem with a person that is on this forum, they get a dog and resell it after a couple of months and then get more and does the same thing over & over...but you know I haven't said anything about this person online, it is really none of my business, I feel sorry for the dogs, but then again, I don't they are so much better off to get a real home...What good is it going to do for me to start stuff and get more uproar on YT..none at all..the reason I am saying this is If you have nothing nice to say Keep your Mouth shut. I have try ,really hard too but sometimes I can't, I need to just think really hard before I say harmful things, which isn't easy
I have had mean cruel things said about me breeding Lexie, and yes they hurt, she was breed to improve the breed, the stud was excellent, but someone put there 2 cents telling other yt members and yes it hurt, but then I am a bigger person than them, and I know my reason for what I do, and there isn't anyone that loves all there babies more than me, I just look at it this way, people that are so rude and hateful, are very miserable with themselves.
I think alot of the problem on YT is people type before they think, and they think they know everything, one of the best gifts of all is the ability to never stop learning..there isn't anyone on this forum or any forum that knows everything only God does...I really think the time has come that we all unite and try to get along better.
We don't know everyone on the forums, we talk but you don't know what is going on in there lives, and being mean, cruel and evil to people you don't know how you are impacting there lives. God only knows what is going on with these people or what they are really going through I just think we all need to STOP and think before we post, how are we going to effect that persons life...it maybe just a smart comment from us, but it could be a life moment for the person on the other end...
Thanks Lori for your post....
Sorry so long...

[daisy mae06]

Originally Posted by bren

most doctors will not tie tubes (or burn or whatever they do) if you are under a certain age in case the person changes her mind about having children. I've heard about this happening to a handful of people I know. One of these women already had 4 kids but was under the age of 35 and the doctor STILL wouldn't do it.

Now I will Take My own thread off Topic for a second
I had my tubes Tied at 33 I only have one child and I just needed to sign off on it.
You can get it done. If you want it done I good dr will Know and Do it
Shoot Back in the day you needed to have your Hubby sign off for you to get it done!LOL

If you can go in by Choice and have your Breasts removed why not your uterus?


Now Back on topic Ya'll PLEASE

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