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Old 11-09-2007, 11:33 AM   #61
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The issue of donations for medical help has been discussed many times here at YorkieTalk.

If a member wants to give money to another member for any reason, they can if they wish to. If a member wish to sell products for another person and give part of the proceeds to another member, they may do so. We will not and can not stop any member from spending their money as they wish. We urge all members to be careful when giving money to another person.

However, there have been instances in the past where people just come on to YorkieTalk to solicit money, and sometimes people even lie about it or make up stories. It is impossible to verify everyone's claim and to be fair to all members, we can not allow solicitations for donations for medical help here.

We do not feel comfortable establishing any kind of "medical fund" ourselves, thus we choose to do an annual fund raiser for an established Yorkie rescue organization.
I truly appreciate Admin's position on this because of past fraudulent claims, and I am aware of a few of them. However, in Natalie's case, her medical condition/treatment can be easily verified. I am not suggesting that a fund be set up, but just wanted to voice my opinion and my frustration with the situation.
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Old 11-09-2007, 11:34 AM   #62
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I know and I am sorry...but if that IS what is wrong with Natalie...I just wanted you to know. It is never easy.
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I understand Admin's position on this and think that it will help keep YT a safe, honest place as much as possible.

I know that Natalie's situation is different, but it's hard to go back once you start allowing one situation over another .

But on the upside, admin stated that anyone who wanted to donate to Natalie and Dena can do so at their own discretion, just not on the forum, so that's good to know!
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Aww I just saw this! I have little Natalie in my prayers!
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I understand Admin's position on this and think that it will help keep YT a safe, honest place as much as possible.

I know that Natalie's situation is different, but it's hard to go back once you start allowing one situation over another .

But on the upside, admin stated that anyone who wanted to donate to Natalie and Dena can do so at their own discretion, just not on the forum, so that's good to know!
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I know and I am sorry...but if that IS what is wrong with Natalie...I just wanted you to know. It is never easy.
After my "break-down" from reading your post... I need to apologize.... I didn't mean to sound abrasive.... I tried to go in and edit it, but you had already responded, so I couldn't get back to it....

I'm certainly not here to judge the choice you felt you needed to make by putting your baby to sleep.... only you, he and God knew what was best for him..... and I know, sometimes, there is just nothing more that even "medical miracles" can provide.

In answer to your question about Natalie's x-ray.... yes... it looked very much like the one you posted..... only her tiny heart is almost perfectly round.... so it is BOTH the left and right ventricles that are enlarged.

It was mentioned that the x-rays are not conclusive as too many variables can come into play... (i.e., positioning of the animal, different "interferences" within the x-ray itself, etc.) Hense the need for more specialized testing.

I've just heard back from one of Natalie's veterinarians and she is in the process of making referrals to both OSU and Texas A&M as I type.... (mainly because not knowing anything about either, I couldn't decide which to go with) - there are "pro's" and "con's" to both - - and the immediate concern is of course appointment availability and funding.

Anyway.... this is where we are at the moment..... again, I apologize if my previous post to you seemed brash.... it was simply a spontanious reaction...
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I totally understand...and please note that the x-ray I posted was when he was first diagnosed. He lived for four months after he was diagnosed. Our vet said the only hope for Hank was a heart transplant and we were just not in the position to do that. I really hope and pray that the university's can offer you some solid hope and remedies for Natalie...beleive me, I know how much you love her...I have little Oscar now and can't imagine having to make a decision with him! Keep us posted. Huggs to you and Natalie!!!
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I feel your pain in my heart....Natalie is such an adorable little baby, I pray you find the help she needs....

You sound like your doing the best you can....I don't blame you for hanging in there for Natalie, we're all here for you, hang in there mom.....
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The issue of donations for medical help has been discussed many times here at YorkieTalk.

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How about if someone sells small bows, nothing fancy, just a simple one color "Natalie Bow" for like five or six dollars...90% of proceeds to go to Natalie's medical fund? I am not quite that talented at this point but if someone wanted to make them I could ship them out or something.
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How about if someone sells small bows, nothing fancy, just a simple one color "Natalie Bow" for like five or six dollars...90% of proceeds to go to Natalie's medical fund? I am not quite that talented at this point but if someone wanted to make them I could ship them out or something.
A member must be a Donating Member to be able to sell any Yorkie products in our For Sale forums. If a member wants to make a Natalie Bow, they may do so, and sell it at whever price they would like. We just ask all sellers to follow the For Sale forum rules here:

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15910
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Poor baby natalie . . .she seems to be such a fighter though so that is a great thing . . .I am not much help with your questions but pray you can get the much needed help she needs at a more reasonable cost.
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Medically, I have nothing to add that hasn't been mentioned previously, but as someone who has had to make some very difficult decisions regarding treatment for a furry friend, or family member.... just follow your heart.... It will never lead you down the wrong path.

Prayers and hugs from all of us here....
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Does anyone know how quickly the Lasix should begin doing it's work?

She's peeing, but not an insane amount as I expected she would be.... her tummy is still awfully distended, of course symptomatic of ascites, (the fluid filling her abdomen)...

I just got off the phone with one of Nat's vets and should have asked but had so many other questions!

Natalie has an appointment with OSU Veterinary Medicine Teaching Hospital for Tuesday.... it's going to be a longggggggg scary weekend.
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Medically, I have nothing to add that hasn't been mentioned previously, but as someone who has had to make some very difficult decisions regarding treatment for a furry friend, or family member.... just follow your heart.... It will never lead you down the wrong path.

Prayers and hugs from all of us here....
Thank you so much..... and I just have to say, that my heart - - is saying - - DON'T LET MY BABY GO!!!!!
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you and little Natalie are going through this. I will be praying for you two. The only advice I have to offer is to listen to your baby, she'll tell you when she's ready to stop fighting.
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