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Old 12-27-2006, 07:24 PM   #1
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Quincy will let anyone pet him. He's freindly with everyone. Greet's everyone with a wagging tail. Except my 21 year old son Justin, that is. As soon as he walk's in the door, Quincy viciously attack's him.

I think, but am not sure, it may be my fault. When They first met I did the "get em boy" while play slapping so Quincy would protect me. Well, I think Quincy has took this to hart. Justin doesn't help matter's either. He kick's at him,( mostly to defend himself ) and kick's his crate while he's in it, and yell's at him. He does everything he can to aggravate him.

I told Justin that Quincy was just a dumb animal, and didn't know any better, and it was up to him to make up. Justin swear's he has never really kicked , or hurt him. But Quincy just attack's. When ever Justin would aggrivate him, I would make him leave.

Now for the bigger problem. Justin is moving in with me. I told him he was going to make up with the dog, or he was not welcome in my home. The only thing now is, I told Quincy he had to make up too, but he just refuse's.

I'm really open for suggestion's here. Thank's, Cal
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Guess the intro really had a bad effect on Quincy. Start by Justin not kicking the dog or his crate as a rule. If he wants to move in, he should follow your rules. Second, try hugging Justin in front of Quincy to let him know everything is okay so that he doesn't need to feel unsafe and start to protect you, hence his aggression towards Justin. And try to talk to each other in high pitched cheery voice to sound happy to Quincy.Let me know is this works.
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Well with all do respect I'd be damned if I'd allow my son 21 yrs old or not to kick at my dog or his crate and before I allowed him to move in I'd make darn sure he understood that. It seem to me that your son is getting what he's asking for. I think I'd attack too if someone kicked at my house when I was in it. Not being rude just honest. Have a wonderful New Year. Elaine
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I wouldnt like him very much either if I was a dog and he kicked at my cage and yelled and kicked me...I dont think he is a "dumb animal" he is just protecting himself from a tormentor.
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Old 12-27-2006, 08:56 PM   #5
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It's a vicious cycle. Justin kick's at the dog because the dog bite's him. The dog bit's him because he kick's at him. I really think Quincy bit at him protecting me. Then Justin tortured him back. Who know's. I just wish I new for sure who threw the first punch so to speak. I've actually hit Justin for stomping on the floor to aggrevate the dog. Wich in reallity probly didn't help.

Justin just left. Quincy was barking like crazy everytime he heard Justin's voice. He's in his crate. I have to keep the door blocked or he bust's it open and chase's Justin. In a way,,,it's kinda funny to see a grown man run from a little dog. Quincy will not usually go through the garage,,from the back yard to the front. But if he see's Justin pull up, he make's a b-line for him. And he does latch on if he catch's him.

I've made it clear to Justin he WILL STOP aggrevating the dog,,,or go find another place to live. My dog IS NOT going to live his life in the crate. Justin think's it's terrable that I care more for the dog than him. I told him that's not true. But that's what I mean by Quincy is just a dumb animal and doesn't know any better, and Justin should know better.

Now I just have to deal with Quincy.

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I wouldnt like him very much either if I was a dog and he kicked at my cage and yelled and kicked me...I dont think he is a "dumb animal" he is just protecting himself from a tormentor.
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^5 (high 5) who know's what your son will do when you aren't around. Dogs don't come out naturally mean and attacking people, they are provoked. You need to take your dog out with your son daily and let him walk with him, pet him, feed him and play catch etc. with him. He needs to know this is family and to respect him. No disrespect to you or your son, but
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Old 12-27-2006, 10:55 PM   #7
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Believe me guy's, you aren't going to hurt my feeling's by thinking my kid is a total arse. Oh wait,,,,that's what I think. I get so pissed at him, and Quincy probly feed's on that.

I've tried holding Quincy and have Justin pet him. This is a real tense situation. Justin's affraid of the dog, and the dog's affraid of him. If Justin even get's close, Quincy will bite him.

I hope to God that Justin really isn't so mean. He has had lot's of pet's his whole life, and has been very loving with them. I'm hoping the key to this thing will be that when Justin is there more often, Quincy will settle down. Then I can start to try to get somewhere. As it is now, Justin only show's up once a week if that. So Quincy is not reconising him as a member of the family like one of you mentioned. I think maybe I'll have Justin give hime some treat's through the cage. Of course Quincy will be going nut's.

Anyone have the dog whisper's phone number. Maybe I just need to tell Quincy "pssst". I don't think Quincy will ever let Justin dominate him as a leader of the pack. I wonder if Cesar has a website for real.
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It's a vicious cycle. Justin kick's at the dog because the dog bite's him. The dog bit's him because he kick's at him. I really think Quincy bit at him protecting me. Then Justin tortured him back. Who know's. I just wish I new for sure who threw the first punch so to speak. I've actually hit Justin for stomping on the floor to aggrevate the dog. Wich in reallity probly didn't help.

Justin just left. Quincy was barking like crazy everytime he heard Justin's voice. He's in his crate. I have to keep the door blocked or he bust's it open and chase's Justin. In a way,,,it's kinda funny to see a grown man run from a little dog. Quincy will not usually go through the garage,,from the back yard to the front. But if he see's Justin pull up, he make's a b-line for him. And he does latch on if he catch's him.

I've made it clear to Justin he WILL STOP aggrevating the dog,,,or go find another place to live. My dog IS NOT going to live his life in the crate. Justin think's it's terrable that I care more for the dog than him. I told him that's not true. But that's what I mean by Quincy is just a dumb animal and doesn't know any better, and Justin should know better.

Now I just have to deal with Quincy.
Your son asked for it... his aggression towards your son is understandable.

I'll be darn letting anyone mistreat my animals never the less a 21 yr old... he should know better.


Let him find another place to live...then he will know who is the dummy!
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Believe me guy's, you aren't going to hurt my feeling's by thinking my kid is a total arse. Oh wait,,,,that's what I think. I get so pissed at him, and Quincy probly feed's on that.

I've tried holding Quincy and have Justin pet him. This is a real tense situation. Justin's affraid of the dog, and the dog's affraid of him. If Justin even get's close, Quincy will bite him.

I hope to God that Justin really isn't so mean. He has had lot's of pet's his whole life, and has been very loving with them. I'm hoping the key to this thing will be that when Justin is there more often, Quincy will settle down. Then I can start to try to get somewhere. As it is now, Justin only show's up once a week if that. So Quincy is not reconising him as a member of the family like one of you mentioned. I think maybe I'll have Justin give hime some treat's through the cage. Of course Quincy will be going nut's.

Anyone have the dog whisper's phone number. Maybe I just need to tell Quincy "pssst". I don't think Quincy will ever let Justin dominate him as a leader of the pack. I wonder if Cesar has a website for real.
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The more I think about, I think I'm making the problem worse. Because, believe it or not, you guy's are right. I'll be damned if I let anyone treat my dog like that. And I don't. I scream, yell, and I've even hit Justin when he does this. I also have made him leave. So I'm sure Quincy is feeding on this. I guess I need to change my attitude also.

I'm in no way defending Justin, but all he has to do is so up and he get's attacked. So all though it's justifiable, Quincy has to get some blame too.

I'm going to buy a muzzle and leave him out next time Justin's here. Do you guy's think that's a good idea or not. At least he won't be able to bite. Then Justin will have no reason to react negativly.
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The more I think about, I think I'm making the problem worse. Because, believe it or not, you guy's are right. I'll be damned if I let anyone treat my dog like that. And I don't. I scream, yell, and I've even hit Justin when he does this. I also have made him leave. So I'm sure Quincy is feeding on this. I guess I need to change my attitude also.

I'm in no way defending Justin, but all he has to do is so up and he get's attacked. So all though it's justifiable, Quincy has to get some blame too.

I'm going to buy a muzzle and leave him out next time Justin's here. Do you guy's think that's a good idea or not. At least he won't be able to bite. Then Justin will have no reason to react negativly.

Quincy could be train...try to be calm around him. Don't pick him up for some reason they become like rotties and he will attack. Go to Cesar web page you may find some info that may help you. I love watching him his on right now on the geography channel. Even if I don't aggree with him on treating a dog as a dog. My furbabies are like my kids they get only the best.
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When They first met I did the "get em boy" while play slapping so Quincy would protect me.
To borrow one of Dr Phil's lines: WHAT WERE YOU THINKING???
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Justin doesn't help matter's either. He kick's at him,( mostly to defend himself ) and kick's his crate while he's in it, and yell's at him. He does everything he can to aggravate him.
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I scream, yell, and I've even hit Justin when he does this. I also have made him leave. So I'm sure Quincy is feeding on this. I guess I need to change my attitude also.
I hope you understand now that Quincy's behavior is entirely the fault of the humans in his life. Your dog is doing exactly what you and your son have trained him to do.

Unless you and your son retrain yourselves, this situation sounds pretty hopeless to me. *IF* you and your son can figure out together where you have gone wrong and both of you vow to change, here's something for you to try with Quincy. If you guys aren't going to change, don't bother.

Try letting your son be the keeper of all good things in Quincy's life. Let your son feed him. Let your son be the one to introduce new toys and play with. Let your son take him for walks. Have your son carry treats at all times and have him give Quincy treats when Quincy is behaving. But, as I said before, If you guys aren't going to change, don't bother.

I'm sorry for being so blunt, but...
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PS This situation, IMHO, has absolutely nothing to do with domination and who is the leader of the pack. This is entirely about trust. Quincy doesn't trust your son and he has very good reason not to. He is not a "dumb animal". His reactions are entirely appropriate to the situation that you and your son have created.

Again, I'm sorry to be so blunt, but this whole thing makes my blood boil. I realize that you are here asking for help; see my previous post for suggestions.
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You shouting at Justin doesn't help. You being tense when Justin and Quincy is around each other doesn't help either. Quincy can feel it hence think something is wrong. Justin shouting back at you or Quicny will not help either so STOP SHOUTING! Muzzling Quincy might make him feel that everytime Justin is around, you muzzle him which is in his brain equal to something bad. You need to potray Justin as a keeper of good things and when he is around, good things will happen. Why not try you giving Quincy his favourite treats when Justin is around (but not close to him) instead of muzzling him?

You really have to sit down and think of the subtle ways that makes Justin is nice to have around for Quincy. Things like Quincy won't get locked up when Justin is around. Try diverting Quincy's attention with favourite treats or some playing between you and Quincy while Justin is around (again, not close; just around) then slowly work to playing together. Its going to take a lot of work and patience but things would get better in time.
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Dogs remember when someone has been mean to them. My
Daughter had a little boy over one time and he kicked Chachi in the face.
To this day Chachi will growl at him. I think First yorkie gave you excellent advice
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