I think I might have to give Roxy away

[megansmomma]

Originally Posted by bellajayne

Our Bella was 3 years old when we got her and she wasn't housebroke at all. We had to train her as if she was a puppy, it was difficult considering she was already trained to go wherever. We took her outside frequently like every hour. When we weren't home and at night we crated her. It took a couple months of patience and consistency but she caught on finally. Now she goes to the door when she needs to go and hasn't had an accident in months. I don't crate her during the day when we are at work, we gate her into one room in our home with her bed and toys.

Our problem now though is that she doesn't want to be in the crate at night and yelps til we let her out. I stopped trying because it was waking up my kids and I'd rather deal with one dog then one dog and 2 kids! Now that we haven't been putting her into the crate she whines at my bed for me to get up. She sleeps next to my bed in her doggy bed for the first half of the night but gets up in the night every night wanting to go out but then afterwards does not want me to go back to bed. I usually end up crashing on the couch the rest of the night because if I try to go back to bed she just whines for me to go downstairs. She will lay back down in her bed downstairs but "insists" I stay downstairs with her. Any suggestions on how to break this habit? For the first 6 months we had her she crated at night, all night long without a problem. She whined the first night and because it was out of character for her I got up and let her out, talk about starting a bad habit! This has been going on for about 3 months now...any suggestions? I hate to crate her again, I'd just like her to sleep for the second half of the night like she does the first half. I know she is capable of holding it and sleeping all night as she did for the first 6 months we had her. I fear we have just plain spoiled her out of love! I will keep doing this if necessary, she's such a sweetie but I would rather have her sleep next to me in her bed the WHOLE night! Any suggestions would be welcomed!

Hello and Welcome to YT! First off, you have a great question and I am sure that there are a lot of people that would love to help and give you advice. But you are now buried on page 3 of someone elses thread/question. So I would like to suggest that you start a new thread all about you and your Bella. If you go up to the top of this page and look where it says "Training" click on that and it will take you to the first page of The Training forum. On the left side of that page it will say "Post New Thread"~click that and it will open a blank box. You did a great job of explaining and posing your question so I would just copy it to YOUR new thread. You will get lots of responses because many people have already come to this thread and posted a response and they might not come back again.

**My suggestion would be to pick up Bella's downstairs bed at night so that she doesn't try to get comfy when she comes in from a potty adventure. You need to put a stop to taking her out in the middle of the night so if she really has to go potty at 2 am then cut back on her water intake later in the night. I would pick up her water bowl so the she is not allowed to drink late at night ~~~just like you did when your kids were potty training. You have started a very bad habit and I can see that she has you totally wrapped around her little paw.
She is doing it out of attention I think. My sister has a Dob that does this to her every night and then expects a treat to boot She gets up for work every morning and Jordan goes back to sleep

[golfbooboo]

Katy is 4 months and has not had an accident in over two weeks. We are using the wee wee pads. I don't care where she is now, she goes to her pad. I can tell you it takes total devotion in working with them to train them. I am retired so I had the time. She sleeps with us and during the night if she has to go, she wakes me up and then goes back to bed. Remember, we are the ones that are trained when they are puppies. Leaving her unattended sets her up for failure. Good luck!!!!

[lil fu fu girl]

Hang tough mom! She is just a baby and that is what they do! I have a 13 week old at home and he is beyond hyper. What I do is wear him out. We are also in the NE and it has been cold and damp. So we stay inside and play fetch and dog tug-of- war with socks. I do this about 3 times a day, sometimes up to 30-50 minutes. It wears him out and he naps then, and does not tear up anything. Well, maybe kleenex if I leave it where he can get it. I also buy chewies for him that help with his teething.
Hope this helps...... best of luck

[VickieDavis]

Originally Posted by megansmomma

She is just a baby and you are really expecting way too much from her. If you are leaving her to have the run of the house while you are gone she is going to get into everything and have a free for all. You need to confine her either to a crate, Xpen or a small room. She is tearing things up because she is board. If you are gone for more than a few hours you cannot expect her to hold her pee and poop for longer than that. How many hours at a time are you leaving her alone? Are you taking her for walks or outside before you leave? You should not punish her for having accidents inside you house as this will accomplish nothing except that she will fear you. You need to use praise and attention when it comes to a puppy. If you are not able to give your little girl this them maybe it is time to give her to someone that will. I am not trying to judge you but at the same time, if you are not able to give love, praise and attention at this very young age she could very well never become the pet that you are hoping for. They do not just "get it" without a lot of time spent helping them "get it".

This is exactly what I would have said too.
Please be patient. She's just a baby. Does she have any hard teething toys to chew on. Be sure she has some for when she's penned or crated. Mine always loved the rubber squeaky toys when they were teething. If you can't take jer outside to get her tired..at least give her a playtime workout.
And to repeat....if you don't have the time and patience..please give someone else a chance at giving her a happy well adjusted life, especially while she's still so young.
JMHO

[Lexismom09]

Ralph maddy I think you will find the time, and sometimes patience wears on all of us with puppies. Just like children, when the going gets tough......bring them to Grandmas! Or take a step back, a deep breath, and look for support on YorkieTalk! Give her a hug from us today!

[piperlu]

The first few months of having a puppy are very difficult. They're learning a lot and so are we. I think most of us have gone through or are going through these exact things. Hang in there, it will get better.

[SophieKatesMom]

Oh I feel the pains of potty training. Trust me I went through a lot of the same feelings of frustration with SophieKate. I tried pad training and that never did work so I went directly into crate training and so far kind of good (knock on wood).

I got SophieKate when she was three months old back in September and I was clueless on how to potty train a dog. After a few days of failed attempts with the pads I went out and bought a small ICrate. This crate was just big enough for her to stand up and turn around but it had all the comforts of home (a nice lambs wool pad and her fleece blanket). The most important suggestion I got was getting the small crate and in the beginning do not put their food and water in with her. That came with a warning of making sure my puppy gets out of the crate on a regular basis for water and to eat.

Second thing I had to discover was her schedule and try to work it into my schedule. At first I took her out every hour during the day and whenever she whined at night. That was only for a very short time, I than increased it to every two hours and I tracked what she would "do".

We are now at it for 6 months and I would safely say SophieKate is 95% potty trained. The times she does have a pee accident is when I am not paying attention to her or the time - that is totally my fault.

As far as crate training, SophieKate still goes into her the crate (a bigger model) when she is home alone. She doesn't seem to mind it, in fact I leave the door open on her crate and she will go in there and take a nap when we are home. I also leave fresh water in her crate and if I am going to be gone for a while I will put food in there for her.

Potty training has given me gray hairs but the puppy kisses are so worth the gray hairs.

Hang in there, you will figure it out with a lot of good advice from fellow Yorkie Talkers.

[ParrotLady]

Originally Posted by ralphmaddy

I tried the kong and peanut butter but she kind of didn't like it.... Cloth I tried that once and she rips the cloth so bad that she ate the threads I mean it was a kitchen towel so I don't know if its the same thing or not....

They make washable pads that are thick and would be hard to tear up that you can use instead of the throw away ones. I would start her on the washable pads on the weekend when you are home and reward her greatly every time she uses it.

Provide soft terry cloth squeaky toys for her to chew on, and reward her with treats for chewing on them when you are home on the weekend too.

[ralphmaddy]

First and foremost. I just want to clarify that I DO NOT plan on giving my Roxy away I only said that because I was frustrating but I love that dog to much to give her away. That's my angel even though she really isn't an angel LOL!!!!

I made a schedule to start when I get back from vacation. Can you guys give me some insight on what you think of it. I don't know if I'm missing something or maybe have to much of something..

5:30am wake up take Roxy to pee pee outside

5:50am give her food and water

6:30am potty

6:30am-6:50am playtime

6:50am-11:30am crate (mommy goes to work)

11:30am-12:00pm potty, playtime try to feed

12:00pm-4:15pm crate

4:15pm potty

4:15pm-7:00pm crate while at studio

7:00pm-8:00pm potty, dinner

8:00pm-10:00pm playtime

10:00pm potty, crate bedtime

[VickieDavis]

I, personally, got the impression you were really considering giving her up. So happy to know different now.
I'd say you have a pretty good schedule there. I'm not letting my yorkies read it. They'll feel so neglected by me and might consider running away from home to go to your house. LOL

[GeorgiaOnMyMind]

Originally Posted by Ladymom

If you are looking at Petsmart, they carry Pooch Pads, but they are expensive.

Dog.com is much cheaper. They offer free shipping and ship very fast!

Pooch Pad - Dog.com

I agree! PetSmart washable pads are terribly expensive. My mom actually made me some and I just put them on top of the potty trays and the fabric gets clipped on the sides just like the disposable. I had two dogs that tore up the disposable ones and as soon as I put a new one in, and turn around they had it out playing tug of war with it. I went through the tearing up stage for awhile - I don't know how, but I learned to laugh about it (not the cost of getting more though-that wasn't funny! lol)

Anyway, it does get better. I feel for you though, I had two peeing and pooping on the floor. I went to Home Depot and bought a 6X9 of the vinyl flooring (about $25) and put that on our floor-we have tile on our floor but I didn't want them peeing on that. So then I put the 4X8 expen over the vinyl tile and then put their potty tray(2) in there with the washable pads. I finally had to sit down far enough away from them not to play with me but waited for them to start playing and every time they went toward the pad to chew it up, I would in a firm and louder voice than I use and tell them "NO!" and then give them a treat when they walked away. Within about a week, they quit tearing them up. But it took me awhile to actually do this... I just "put up with it" for awhile, I have no idea why. I started Friday night after work and then worked with them Friday evening, Saturday and Sunday and they got the idea. Then once or twice that next week, they tore up the pads during they day while I was at work, but I would say within that next week working with them in the evenings and that next weekend - they got the idea. You might try getting something strong while she's teething.. Like some strong denim material and tie knots in the ends, soak in water and freeze it and put that in her area while you are at work. I hope this helps. If you need any other info or ideas, feel free to PM me and I'll give you my telephone number and you can call me. I feel for you, I honestly do! Just be glad that you don't have 2 yorkies doing it! lol One is definitely hard enough.

[newproudmom]

Looks like a great schedule. Charlie's schedule was very similar to that one. Good luck. Things will get better as your baby grows older.

[ralphmaddy]

Thank you I really appreciate the feed back on the schedule. I worked hard on it and I was hoping that it was good for her.. Can't wait to get back from vacation to start her on it. I'm actually going this weekend to get her a new crate because the one she has now she's actually pooped n pee'd in it already and I feel like she hasn't distinguished what's what... So I'm hoping the wire one is good....

[willow1]

Originally Posted by ralphmaddy

I just don't know what to do anymore.. This little puppy is spoiled rotten I have no idea what I'm doing with a dog... This is my first dog and I don't know if I'm doing everything right. I just cant seem to train her. She was going on the pad with no problem but now lately she tears her pads up. I left to go to Target I was gone for about 2 hours she was in her pen with her bed pad and food. I came home to her with her pad ripped up her bed flipped the zipper ripped open and her bed the foam eaten. I leave her with her toys I just don't know anymore when I leave the house I leave her a light on and a radio on... What am I doing wrong... She just doesn't seem to get it. I hate punishing her but I feel like she won't learn. Then everytime I leave the house I have to clorox the floor because since she rips the pad there's poo and pee everywhere.. I just don't know anymore.... She is going on 4 months and she just doesnt seem to get it...

On animal planet they sometimes have specialist that show you how to train your pooch. One thing they recommend is not giving them the run of the home when your not there. They also say you might want to placing her in her crate or if you dont want to confine her that way a baby gate and leave her in a small room in your house with a little food and water and of course her pad

[ralphmaddy]

I appreciate the advice. Although I have mentioned she isn't left in the house all over she is actually in a pet yard that I have located in the kitchen.. But thank you I'm going to try out my schedule...

Originally Posted by willow1

On animal planet they sometimes have specialist that show you how to train your pooch. One thing they recommend is not giving them the run of the home when your not there. They also say you might want to placing her in her crate or if you dont want to confine her that way a baby gate and leave her in a small room in your house with a little food and water and of course her pad