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Old 07-31-2006, 06:30 AM   #1
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Unhappy Dog Park, ugh...

Just got home from the dog park.......

Took both Tucker and Tripp this time and all was well. They played with a little Bichon Frise boy very nicely and just walked around. Then a girl brings her Husky and Great Dane puppy over to the small dog side (25 lbs. and under) because they were "intimidated" by the big dogs... Like they aren't big themselves??!?!?

Everything is fine, I'm holding Tucker because he's really tired and Tripp is just walking around. The puppy comes over and tries to play with Tripp, but come on he's like 3 times his size. I walk over there and grab Tripp's harness seeing that the puppy was pretty rowdy, the puppy jumps at him and Tripp goes for the puppy's ear.

The puppy was fine, but his owner acted like she was going to explode... I felt bad for Tripp because I think he was just scared.

Was this my fault??? Wasn't he just acting in self defense? It's bothering me that she got mad, when it didn't have to be a big deal... Ugh...
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I would say no. Your dog was just scared. She should not have brought her dogs over to the small dog side. I would be LIVID if that happened to us. I would never dream of taking Sadie to the big dog side...we stay away from them. Neither one of us likes most big dogs, so we don't go near them. So she was at fault, not you.

When we had our get together a few weeks ago at the dog park, there was a guy that came in with a Golden Retriever puppy. She was still really small (a little bigger than our dogs). But she was so playful that she was getting on our dogs' nerves. They all kind of growled at her. The guy realized it and took the dog & left. That's what that woman should have done.
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When we had our get together a few weeks ago at the dog park, there was a guy that came in with a Golden Retriever puppy. She was still really small (a little bigger than our dogs). But she was so playful that she was getting on our dogs' nerves. They all kind of growled at her. The guy realized it and took the dog & left. That's what that woman should have done.
See, that's what I thought, her puppy was jumping on everyone, including me while I was holding Tucker. Let me tell you, that's not a good idea. He will only get upset if you are holding him, and I was because he was tired... It's just aggravating I guess, I'm just glad it wasn't the other way around. Then I would be furious lol
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i think i would have been mad if your dog bit mine (sorry i just woke
up so if thats not what happen then my bad LOL )
but i think people need to realize that small dogs NEED to socialize with big dogs(CALM ONES)
Austin meet a full grown mastiff (over 120pounds)the other day i think its great for him he LOVED Her he even stood up and streched to kiss her lol
that being said since those puppies are still SMALL i think its fine i just think its up 2 both owners to watch there dogs and the big dog owner to teach the dog to be gentle i think its great training for when the dogs are over 100 pounds
i think lf there still puppys & small enough they deserve to be there
i think tired of not Tripp should have been scolded
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i think i would have been mad if your dog bit mine (sorry i just woke
up so if thats not what happen then my bad LOL )
but i think people need to realize that small dogs NEED to socialize with big dogs(CALM ONES)
Austin meet a full grown mastiff (over 120pounds)the other day i think its great for him he LOVED Her he even stood up and streched to kiss her lol
that being said since those puppies are still SMALL i think its fine i just think its up 2 both owners to watch there dogs and the big dog owner to teach the dog to be gentle i think its great training for when the dogs are over 100 pounds
i think lf there still puppys & small enough they deserve to be there
i think tired of not Tripp should have been scolded
sorry......Jmo

She said, though, that she was trying to pick up Tripp & the puppy jumped at him. So it seems to me that he was either 1)provoked or 2)trying to protect her. And Great Dane puppies are not small. They're really big. And the woman also had another big dog there, which tells me that she is not a responsible dog owner anyway and probably was not trying to get her dog away from them.

As for needing to socialize with big dogs, I don't think that's always a good idea. Sadie was once kicked by a big dog who in no way intended to harm her, but just didn't realize the size difference. I will never put her in another position to get hurt again. And as I've said before in other threads, even if I picked her up, it still would not get her out of the way of the dog because I am small myself.
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She said, though, that she was trying to pick up Tripp & the puppy jumped at him. So it seems to me that he was either 1)provoked or 2)trying to protect her. And Great Dane puppies are not small. They're really big. And the woman also had another big dog there, which tells me that she is not a responsible dog owner anyway and probably was not trying to get her dog away from them.

As for needing to socialize with big dogs, I don't think that's always a good idea. Sadie was once kicked by a big dog who in no way intended to harm her, but just didn't realize the size difference. I will never put her in another position to get hurt again. And as I've said before in other threads, even if I picked her up, it still would not get her out of the way of the dog because I am small myself.
i would have said to the owner then please take care of your dog
im not gonna argue since it is My opinion but
i think another puppy playing is not a reason for another dog to snip i still would have scolded my dog cause if he didnt wanna play he should have stayed home
i think it is good for big & little dogs to socialize as long as you do it right i would never put my little dog to play with a 100 pound BOUNCIng dog but a calm one i dont see why not
Austin is a well socialized dog now i dont let him play with every huge dog but hes been with a few good ones and he loves it if they get to ruff both of us pull our dogs away
i think if you constantly coddle you little dog just cause there little youll have a dog that can play nice at all
ok im done again this is only my opinion
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lenora- it's perfectly fine that you like socializing your small dogs with larger ones, but mine are not accustomed to it and that was not what i went to the dog park to do. i went to let them have fun playing with other small dogs. i believe my dog was defending himself, he felt trapped. i just didnt like the situation we were put into. also if this puppy had been socialized himself the whole thing wouldnt have been played out that way. big dogs need to learn manners too. their mistakes are a lot more dangerous than my 10 lb. dog's
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i would have said to the owner then please take care of your dog
im not gonna argue since it is My opinion but
i think another puppy playing is not a reason for another dog to snip i still would have scolded my dog cause if he didnt wanna play he should have stayed home
i think it is good for big & little dogs to socialize as long as you do it right i would never put my little dog to play with a 100 pound BOUNCIng dog but a calm one i dont see why not
Austin is a well socialized dog now i dont let him play with every huge dog but hes been with a few good ones and he loves it if they get to ruff both of us pull our dogs away
i think if you constantly coddle you little dog just cause there little youll have a dog that can play nice at all
ok im done again this is only my opinion
I'm not arguing about it either. You have your opinion and I have mine. And I don't "coddle" my dog either. But like I said, I can't protect MYSELF against big dogs, so I certainly can't protect her. Even if a big dog bumped into me, it could be pretty serious for me (I have a medical condition where my bones break easily). And I let her play with all kinds of dogs EXCEPT the ones that I am looking in the eye. Unless I know the dog personally, I don't even want to be near it. I just haven't had good experiences. We have had lots of big dogs run up to us, putting us both in a dangerous situation. So I don't think that you should make assumptions and say that I coddle my dog when you don't know the real reason why I won't go near big dogs. I'm just not going to put either of us in that situation. And she is VERY social and CAN play nice.
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I think the woman with the big dogs was at fault. This is why I've quit going to our dog park.

We have doggie playtime in our back yard once a week instead.

While I agree that small dogs need to socialize with big dogs, you need to be able to choose the big dogs wisely. By bringing her big dogs (even if they were puppies) into the small dog area, she wasn't giving you the right to choose.

Just like I didn't choose to have Ginger picked up and carried around by her harness by a big dog who shouldn't have been there. It can take MONTHS to get these little guys over an experience with a big dog who's "just being playful".

Don't sweat it. Just look for other (and safer) opportunities for your little ones to socialize. Or leave the dog park immediately if there is anything you don't like.

P.S. Ginger does have big dog friends.
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I agree,she was in the wrong. She should have kept her dog on the proper side. She had her nerve getting mad. A small dog can feel threathen by a larger and well s**t happens! What did you say to her after the incident?
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I agree,she was in the wrong. She should have kept her dog on the proper side. She had her nerve getting mad. A small dog can feel threathen by a larger and well s**t happens! What did you say to her after the incident?
I just asked if the puppy was ok, and that I was sorry and I didn't know what had gotten into him. She didn't say anything.
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Let's see. She brought her big dogs into an area that they were restricted from.

Allowed them to jump all over people and dogs.

And didn't acknowledge you when you talked to her?

I know what got it to him. He could tell the dog and owner were out of control!
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When we had our get together a few weeks ago at the dog park, there was a guy that came in with a Golden Retriever puppy. She was still really small (a little bigger than our dogs). But she was so playful that she was getting on our dogs' nerves. They all kind of growled at her. The guy realized it and took the dog & left. That's what that woman should have done.
I remember that!! The GR puppy was so cute and sweet, but our dogs did not like how jumpy and over powering she could be. Rocky even growled at her which is not like him at all with any dogs. I think Rocky just felt trapped and it scared him. That is probably what happened with Tripp. I feel that woman was in the wrong bringing a great dane into the small dog area. Plus it sounds like she had no control over her dog and did not care if jumped up on other people or dogs.
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I remember that!! The GR puppy was so cute and sweet, but our dogs did not like how jumpy and over powering she could be. Rocky even growled at her which is not like him at all with any dogs. I think Rocky just felt trapped and it scared him. That is probably what happened with Tripp. I feel that woman was in the wrong bringing a great dane into the small dog area. Plus it sounds like she had no control over her dog and did not care if jumped up on other people or dogs.
Yeah, I think it was like 9 or 10 weeks old. At least the guy realized it was bugging our babies & left. We need to do that again this month...it was fun!!!
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i would have said to the owner then please take care of your dog
im not gonna argue since it is My opinion but
i think another puppy playing is not a reason for another dog to snip i still would have scolded my dog cause if he didnt wanna play he should have stayed home
i think it is good for big & little dogs to socialize as long as you do it right i would never put my little dog to play with a 100 pound BOUNCIng dog but a calm one i dont see why not
Austin is a well socialized dog now i dont let him play with every huge dog but hes been with a few good ones and he loves it if they get to ruff both of us pull our dogs away
i think if you constantly coddle you little dog just cause there little youll have a dog that can play nice at all
ok im done again this is only my opinion
I agree that little dogs need to socialize with big dogs, but big puppies are too rough and can hurt these little guys. A great Dane puppy could do some serious harm if he jumped on or even just pawed at a yorkie. They don't understand that they can't be that rough. But it could permanently disable a small dog, or even kill it.

My daughter has a chocolate lab and he is very good with my yorkies now, but when he was younger he scared then half to death, and I didn't blame them for being frightened.
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