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Old 03-13-2006, 09:42 AM   #1
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We are always talking about the dangers of breeding (which I agree on). Most of you know I"m just starting out breeding Yorkies. I am curious how many of you have lost a female due to whelping. I do alot of fostering dogs and cats and have delivered alot of babies (i seem to get the ones that are always pregnant so I foster during that time thru being fixed and til the pups are weaned then I find homes whew lol) but anyway I've never had a female die on me. Can you tell me how long you've been breeding and if you've had a female pass away due to whelping..thanks..
I'm just curious as to how often this does occur.
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I have not lost a female.. We had our first litter October 10th, 2002 and to this point I have been very lucky to have not lost a female (expecting mama or mama).. I honestly believe we each take that risk each and everytime we breed our females!
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I agree there are risks. I too have been lucky. I was just wondering if any had and if so what was the cause ect.
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I have bred 33 yrs..I lost one girl 30 minutes into a section. I have meet few long time breeders who have not lost a bitch...and many not so long time breeders on YT have lost bitches.
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I have been breeding for 8 years and have not lost a female.
Now a friend of mine just recently did and all the pups along with the mom. She had taken her to an emergency vet because the female went into labor and her vet was closed. She called ahead and told the vet her female was having trouble and to be ready for an c-section. Well she stayed at home and let her daughter take the pregnant mom because she was nursing pups that the mom didn't have enough milk for...Any ways her daughter got to the emergency clinic and the vet wouldn't do a c-section, he said lets wait and see....she waited for hours finally the vet pulled one, then another out of the mom and both were dead. He said she has one more in her but she should pass it by morning. He sent the daughter back home with the pregnant female and told her if she hadn't had it by morning to go to her own vet. Come morning time no pup yet so the lady went to the emergency vet and he said that pup was dead...he said he could not take the pups c-section cause the mom was now way too weak and sick. He put the mom on IV's and waited for her to gain her strength back, which never happened. And she then lost the mom.....Some vets could care less and I told my friend I would have sued that emergency vet for what he let happen knowing all the time when she called ahead he was to expect a c-section and the vet wouldn't. Cause he said she would be fine... Makes me sick to think there are vets out there like this.... This female was one of her babies and to loose her and the pups was devestating...
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We are always talking about the dangers of breeding (which I agree on). Most of you know I"m just starting out breeding Yorkies. I am curious how many of you have lost a female due to whelping. I do alot of fostering dogs and cats and have delivered alot of babies (i seem to get the ones that are always pregnant so I foster during that time thru being fixed and til the pups are weaned then I find homes whew lol) but anyway I've never had a female die on me. Can you tell me how long you've been breeding and if you've had a female pass away due to whelping..thanks..
I'm just curious as to how often this does occur.

If anyone is going to breed there yorkie they need to know ahead of time that it is possible they can loose the mother or pups or even both.
Breeding a small breed is not something anyone should take lightly and alot of research must be done. I also try to discourage people who have a family pet into not breeding. It is very difficult for a breeder of many years to loose one and for a family pet to be lost would be truly devistating. Yes, I have been breeding for 18 years and lost a mom to a uterine infection when the pups were only 3 weeks of age. I named one of the puppy girls after her and showed and finished her last year and am waiting on puppies as I type this.
She was one of my all time favorites that I loved and adored and best show producers. So this was extremely hard on me. And she was a 6 lb. girl. Those who are breeding these little ones under 5 lbs. are just asking for problems!
Just about everyone I know has lost a mother and if they havn't as of yet surley will in the future. I know many who on thier very first litter lost the mother or one or all of the puppies. My first litter I lost one of the puppies when the mother jumped on it. That was crushing on me and I could not sleep for weeks! I also know people who have had the mothers just lay down and dye in the 8 week of pregnancy because the puppies crowded the internal organs and shut them down. And these mom's were around 5 lbs. Breeding is not for everyone.... You must be cautious and know what can happen! Having an experience support system and mentor is very important!
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I have not lost a mother yet (and I hope I never do) but I did lose an entire litter 2 weeks ago. Mom went into labor a week early and delivered the puppies. They were alive and kicking. They had such a will to live but their little bodies were not ready for the world yet. They didn't live through the night. I had my clinic's mid-wife take them home with her to do her magic but not even Barb could save them. It was the most horrible thing I've been through thus far.
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I have not lost a mother yet (and I hope I never do) but I did lose an entire litter 2 weeks ago. Mom went into labor a week early and delivered the puppies. They were alive and kicking. They had such a will to live but their little bodies were not ready for the world yet. They didn't live through the night. I had my clinic's mid-wife take them home with her to do her magic but not even Barb could save them. It was the most horrible thing I've been through thus far.
Irene I am sorry to hear about your loss.. I ALWAYS tell myself that if something happens to the puppies I will be very sad, but I am not physically attached to them yet, but I do not know what I would do if I lost one of my mamas..

Again I am very sorry..

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When you lose a mommie..you are positive you will also die..Tess died nearly 20 years ago, all I could do was nurse her 6 motherless puppies and pray it never happens again.
I have lost puppies, I have lost a mother, but never a mother and the litter...beyond grief.
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When you lose a mommie..you are positive you will also die..Tess died nearly 20 years ago, all I could do was nurse her 6 motherless puppies and pray it never happens again.
I have lost puppies, I have lost a mother, but never a mother and the litter...beyond grief.
Pat I do believe that if one does this long enough they will experience all the good and bad things that come with it..
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Pat I do believe that if one does this long enough they will experience all the good and bad things that come with it..
I agree..
With me.. I started out with the bad.
I did not lose the mom but did lose a whole litter the first time I bred..
I was so heartbroken..I didn't know if I wanted to ever breed again.
But, here I am a year later and ready to try again.
Hopefully, I am more prepared this time around.
WHY ?.. because I love this breed.
The other hard part for me will be.. when its time to let the pups go to new homes.
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Not yet. But in Jan I was very close to losing Cookie. As some of you know I handraised her litter of 5. It is not a piece of cake.
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I 've never own a female dog. Never experienced that before.
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I never lost mama but I did have a litter of four and the last girl had to be put down. I was nervous about this litter because when I breed them, it is always supervised and timed. But in this particular breeding..... a week after the breeding.... the stud found his way to the other side of my home and before I knew it.... they were tied. The point is..... the last pup was born underdeveloped and would not survive. I've never lost any puppies before this so I was devastated. If I ever lost a mother..... I don't know how I would handle it. I would be very upset. I know a few of you said not to breed a family pet but I am a hobby breeder and all my dogs live with me and sleep with me and ofcourse I get bonded to them. How do you decide who is pet and who is breeder?
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I think I have been extremely lucky..30 yrs is a lifetime. I have never had a bitch with a unterine infection or mastitis..never had one with no milk or toxic milk. Never had a mother reject a litter or kill any. All bounced back and returned to their former state of good health and most went on to live a long retired life.
I experienced eclampsia twice..but both times when the bitch was rebred it was avoided and all was well. I can only remember two bitches who never conceived. Never had a sterile male.
Puppy problems have run the gamet of the norm..that is the worst for me.

BUT I had a dear, Yorkie club friend who lived a block from me for 20 years. There was nothing she did not experince...I learned it all from her. It seemed like her troubles never ended...she never spared vet expense to find an answer ..many things still remain a mystery.
You can do everything right and it can all go wrong, you can do everything wrong and it all turns out well...I know some very careful breeders who have terrible results..just does not seem fair.
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