Betty Pedram tea-cup-yorkies.com

[theporkieyorkie]

Originally Posted by mimimomo

If you look @ the bottom of this page, there's a section called Tags, under Bookmarks. If someone googles 'Betty Pedram', this thread's link will show up. Tagged appropriately means that Lynzy is a bad@$$ loll! It means people will most likely search for what she tagged.
Korean puppy mill dogs are shipped in cargo on a plane..they're pulled from their mom @ 5-6 weeks old! Most of the pics are photo-shopped, they have huge eyes & short short snout...the puppy you buy will NOT be the puppy in the pic. There's many sick websites selling these poor puppies @ ridiculously high prices. Just like tea-cup-yorkies.com!


Were you able to get your deposit back? Looks like she's using many aliases...can't find anything in both names.

I was wondering about what was going on with Korea, bc when I was first looking around on the internet for yorkies, I came across this website...

Teacup Puppies and Boutique and Teacup Yorkies

I was blown away at how much they were selling these dogs for...they are even more if the dog makes it to adulthood and is small. I get the feeling that they scam a lot of people and their dogs end up being a lot bigger than they project them to be. It also states somewhere on or about that this Korean breeder is specifically picking out the smallest of the small to send to this broker. I know some people are disgusted about this broker, because he had talked about someone spreading lies about him.

This broker gets his puppies shipped from Korea and they look very familiar to another breeder of yorkies and maltese that was talked about on YT~and this breeder was Korean too.


And now...here in another thread(and other part of the world), there is yet one more puppy broker getting her teenie tiny micro mini teacup yorkies from Korea.


What I don't understand is how they can get their pups in a country this little. Isn't there a quarantine time here when animals are traveling. Don't dogs have to sit for months??

[mimimomo]

You'll be shocked...imported dogs do not need to be quarantined.
https://help.cbp.gov/app/answers/det...luding-puppies

Here's a thread from YT awhile back w/a lot of the Korean puppy mill/ online info: http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/gen...-supplier.html

[yorkiesrdabest]

lol.. ah.. if yoy would have read my post correctly then you WOULD KNOW that i said i BOUGHT a puppy from her. oh and i was talking to YOU mimiMomo. You are obviously just jealous of her Beautiful Puppys that she has... And yes you were saying that her photos are photo shopped and that they are unhealthy because she is a broker.. you think that if in fact her puppys had alot of health issues that she would be STILL doing ?? i think she pould have alot of unhappy customer that would take her to court for selling unhealthy puppys to people. GIVE YOUR HEAD A SHAKE! get yoyr facts straight before you decide ti asdume such nonsense about a person that you have never met.

[mimimomo]

Originally Posted by yorkiesrdabest

lol.. ah.. if yoy would have read my post correctly then you WOULD KNOW that i said i BOUGHT a puppy from her. oh and i was talking to YOU mimiMomo. You are obviously just jealous of her Beautiful Puppys that she has... And yes you were saying that her photos are photo shopped and that they are unhealthy because she is a broker.. you think that if in fact her puppys had alot of health issues that she would be STILL doing ?? i think she pould have alot of unhappy customer that would take her to court for selling unhealthy puppys to people. GIVE YOUR HEAD A SHAKE! get yoyr facts straight before you decide ti asdume such nonsense about a person that you have never met.

WHAT???! I am not jealous of her, you've got it wrong...I was saying that most of the pics that these kind of brokers & puppy mill sites have are photo-shopped. Plus the puppy you get will NOT be the same puppy in the pics. All I was saying were in generalization of brokers & puppy millers, nothing personally about this Betty person...YOU get it right! How dare you come on here supporting a disgusting puppy miller & pointing your finger @ me!

[mimimomo]

I didn't mention anything about their health...I'm logging off now, have better things to do than waste my time responding to you. Best of luck w/your pups, hope you have pet insurance.

[nanahas3]

By the way I forgot to say....welcome to YT BETTY .

[yorkietalkjilly]

Dealing with a broker or greeder of so called "teacup" breeders is to deal with those who deliberately breed for tiny dogs to jack up the price and care little about the health of the breeding male and female or the health of their parents, grandparents or the current litter of puppies and deliberately mislead prospective buyers with unfounded claims of health and "eternal puppy looks" in the dogs. They often deliberately breed very undersized females despite warnings from respected veterinarians and other toy-dog breeders and risk the females' lives just to produce the tiny puppies. They rarely check the credentials of the worthiness of prospective buyers of one of their puppies, not caring about their future lives - just wanting a payday. Buy for the health and temperament of the dog, not size or looks only, with long lines of healthy dogs only in the pedigree and from a respected, reputable breeder well-known in the fancy, who only breeds to improve the Yorkie breed.

[Buster Brown]

Originally Posted by ElaineE

Thank you! She said she'd be sending the puppy by courier, and admits to being a broker. She says she sells for a Korean Yorkie breeder, and explained that most breeders induce their dogs before they're due to get the micros. But says that the Korean Yorkies aren't bred that way. They're all tiny. She's giving me some references tomorrow. I've given my deposit, but want to make sure I do everything possible to make sure I'll be receiving my dog before paying for it. I;m just suspicious. Any recommendations on other things I might do? websites for bad breeders? I've seen bad reviews on the Florida breeder, and her facebook page show her map of where she's been, and its Florida.

So maybe the reputable YT breeders can educate me on this point. This breeder/ broker stated that most breeders induce their dogs before their due to get micros. This does not seem correct although the dog would be smaller at birth would they not attain normal size as they grew. Also if you induce for smaller size you are also effecting the internal organs as well so you are stunting growth and development which leads to health problems. I have heard of people lying about the age of a dog to trick buyers into thinking they are smaller but they are just younger so they have not grown as much.

[yorkietalkjilly]

Originally Posted by mimimomo

I didn't mention anything about their health...I'm logging off now, have better things to do than waste my time responding to you. Best of luck w/your pups, hope you have pet insurance.

Try not to let fans of dog brokers and those that breed for all the wrong reasons upset you. You and others here are warning others who haven't yet fallen victim to these types of brokers and greeders to stay away from anyone who breeds for tiny sizes and huge eyes, large, rounded heads and flat faces on all their dogs to produce a dog that will sell on looks alone to those who long for the eternal puppy look. The dogs on Ms. Pedram's Facebook page don't favor the breed standard Yorkshire Terrier puppies and are obviously depicted on her main page to emphasize their baby-faced look and extra-diminutive size. Bulging, enlarged eyes, big, rounded foreheads and flattened muzzles with tiny mouths with tooth-cramping space are likely just the beginnings of her puppies' health problems.

Thank you for trying to warn those that want to buy puppies like these that they may be buying a dog that will sicken from one or more health problems, huge vet costs and a life of suffering and heartbreak for the life of the dog. All prospective buyers of very tiny, undersized dogs need to do is Google health problems of teacup or micromini Yorkshire Terriers or any variation of that phrase to see the heartbreak that the very tiny dog can come with when you bring one into your home. If those members or readers of this thread still want to do business with someone who breeds so disreputably, that is their decision to make, though I'd advise against it to ultimately discourage those that purposely breed for ultra tiny dogs by depriving them of gaining income from such risky breeding practices.

[theporkieyorkie]

Originally Posted by yorkiesrdabest

lol.. ah.. if yoy would have read my post correctly then you WOULD KNOW that i said i BOUGHT a puppy from her. oh and i was talking to YOU mimiMomo. You are obviously just jealous of her Beautiful Puppys that she has... And yes you were saying that her photos are photo shopped and that they are unhealthy because she is a broker.. you think that if in fact her puppys had alot of health issues that she would be STILL doing ?? i think she pould have alot of unhappy customer that would take her to court for selling unhealthy puppys to people. GIVE YOUR HEAD A SHAKE! get yoyr facts straight before you decide ti asdume such nonsense about a person that you have never met.

Maybe you should take a look around here and learn why buying from puppy brokers is a bad idea. They get their puppies from puppy mills and back yard breeders who a.)raise dogs in HORRIBLE living conditions and b.)they breed anything that's got a heartbeat and end up passing on health issues to puppies.

I hardly think anyone here is jealous. I'd say most people here feel sorry for the puppies that are born into that situation...and even worse for their parents who are still living the horror, abuse and filth to mass produce puppies so people like you can continue to buy them and put money into the pockets of a broker that supports animal cruelty.

And absolutely YES...I think she would still be in business while selling puppies with health issues!! Why, because it's not her problem once she sells the pup to you. She's got her money and the health problems become YOUR problem. Unsuspecting, uneducated people will look at her website and think the puppy is cute and buy it, not knowing any better!! They will think it's great until they find out the puppy has a congenital defect that costs them thousands of dollars to fix or their puppy dies from it....OR until they do decide to educate themselves on puppy mills and back yard breeders and the conditions their beloved pets come from.

People buy unhealthy dogs EVERY DAY from puppy mills, puppy brokers and pet stores...and suing them isn't going to do any good UNLESS they are in violation of a health contract...and then you still have to collect the money...good luck doing that!!

There are LOTS of owners who've found their way here to YT because they bought an unhealthy puppy from a bad breeder and they were looking for answers, for support and they also were looking to warn others from making the same mistake.

Perhaps instead of getting so upset and defensive, you should take a look around here and find out WHY people are so strongly against brokers, mills and greeders like the one you bought your dogs from. You should google puppy mills and check out the pictures of the breeders your broker gets her pups from. Unless you support and condone the cruely of animals, I just don't see how you'll be able to support someone like that.

BTW...please don't take how people feel about this broker as a personal attack on you or your pups. Many of us here have dogs that have came from back yard breeders, mills or pet stores and it doesn't mean they aren't perfect in our eyes. We just don't want any other dogs to have to live through or be born into conditions like that.

[Maximo]

Originally Posted by Buster Brown

So maybe the reputable YT breeders can educate me on this point. This breeder/ broker stated that most breeders induce their dogs before their due to get micros. This does not seem correct although the dog would be smaller at birth would they not attain normal size as they grew. Also if you induce for smaller size you are also effecting the internal organs as well so you are stunting growth and development which leads to health problems. I have heard of people lying about the age of a dog to trick buyers into thinking they are smaller but they are just younger so they have not grown as much.

I'm obviously not a breeder, but this would make sense to me.

[Rhetts_mama]

Originally Posted by yorkiesrdabest

lol.. ah.. if yoy would have read my post correctly then you WOULD KNOW that i said i BOUGHT a puppy from her. oh and i was talking to YOU mimiMomo. You are obviously just jealous of her Beautiful Puppys that she has... And yes you were saying that her photos are photo shopped and that they are unhealthy because she is a broker.. you think that if in fact her puppys had alot of health issues that she would be STILL doing ?? i think she pould have alot of unhappy customer that would take her to court for selling unhealthy puppys to people. GIVE YOUR HEAD A SHAKE! get yoyr facts straight before you decide ti asdume such nonsense about a person that you have never met.

Personally, I think those dogs are rather strange looking. Nothing that I would ever want to own.

[Verbena]

Please check out the YTCA website for a reputable breeder in your area. And before you give a deposit ask them lots of questions. If they can answer them or gives you a run around please run the other way. There is a lot of great breeders out there. Good luck and we are here for you.

[ColesMommy01]

Originally Posted by Buster Brown

So maybe the reputable YT breeders can educate me on this point. This breeder/ broker stated that most breeders induce their dogs before their due to get micros. This does not seem correct although the dog would be smaller at birth would they not attain normal size as they grew. Also if you induce for smaller size you are also effecting the internal organs as well so you are stunting growth and development which leads to health problems. I have heard of people lying about the age of a dog to trick buyers into thinking they are smaller but they are just younger so they have not grown as much.

Makes definite sense. In human babies if a mother is induced early you'd have to worry about organs not being fully developed, not being able to breathe on their own, etc. Inducing early for no legitimate medical reason except to get micros that will reach a normal weight within the standard anyway just seems negligent, greedy, irresponsible, many other words.

[nanahas3]

From personal experience on the human side, my second daughters doctor decided I was overdue with her and induced. She weighed in at 5 lbs and had underdeveloped lungs. Has had asthma her entire life. So I also would think the same would hold true with puppies.