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Old 04-03-2008, 07:58 AM   #1
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I didnt want to hijack a couple threads so wanted to post this on my own.

While I believe its a great thing to rescue a dog.
I rescued a beagle I still cant pet after almost 2 years.
He was beat and is deathly afraid of people.
While people need to learn about Puppy Mills and True BYBing operations
I can state for a fact...that there are few ,if any Yorkies, Maltese or ANY of these small mix types of dogs in *shelters or the pounds* here in Ohio
Pitbull and Lab , Shepherd, Chows and other large mixes ...yes...
Tons of large black dogs!!!!
Labs were the #1 favorite dog this year , and it was also the most euthanized dog.
They did a spot on the news here in Ohio about it just a month or so ago...

When others I know who have TRIED to rescue a small dog there are none.
The Rescues get them!!!!!!
Now rescues...yes there are some but my question is this
Why does it cost HUNDREDS sometimes to rescue a dog?!?!?!
I seen $$ in eyes here too...
Its one thing to get them from abusive owners and puppy mills etc.... and charge small amounts for spaying / medical care they've had.
But why are they getting them from the pound or shelters?
People are calling everyday about small dogs...there are none..Try it...
They did a spot on the news here in Ohio about it that too a couple years ago.

Its a huge thing to pay for a dog who may have all kinds of personality and/or health problems.(like Hound Dog)
People do it every day...Bless them but its not for everyone.

Its disheartening to read because some of us breed.
Be it the professional breeders or small hobby breeder.
Adopt...Adopt... Adopt....when some people just want their own healthy new puppy.
AS much as we would all love to save all the dogs...its not going to happen
And I dont think anyone should be made to feel bad for wanting that special puppy of there own.
And I dont think that being a caring hobby breeder should be put down on YT

And PETA?
PITA is what I call them...They dont even want me to eat my fish out of my own pond....Sorry for the rambling....LOL!
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Old 04-03-2008, 08:10 AM   #2
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I understand what you are saying. I went to petfinder.com looking for rescue yorkies or other small breeds, and they were $550 from a "rescue" place! Why would someone pay that much money for a dog that they possibly cannot have around children or company at all, that quite possibly has bad personality issues? I mean, there are people out there that will, if they have that kind of money and a big heart for doing that kind of thing. But most people will say "shoot, for that much money, I can get a registered purebred puppy". Not all rescues are in it for the greater good, and are no different than a puppy mill.
I agree on the PETA thing too. When you get down to exactly what they believe, they say we should not even have any pets. No eating animals, no housing animals, that means no pets, no burgers, just coexisisting with animals running wild apparently. If they took a look at one of our cutesy little yorkie pics with a topknot and a dress on, they'd be on like white on rice...white rice that is.
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I understand what you are saying. I went to petfinder.com looking for rescue yorkies or other small breeds, and they were $550 from a "rescue" place! Why would someone pay that much money for a dog that they possibly cannot have around children or company at all, that quite possibly has bad personality issues? I mean, there are people out there that will, if they have that kind of money and a big heart for doing that kind of thing. But most people will say "shoot, for that much money, I can get a registered purebred puppy". Not all rescues are in it for the greater good, and are no different than a puppy mill.
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While I would like to think that ALL rescues are in it for the love of animals.
It just isnt so...Its another Business to make $$
This poor gal tried to rehome her pup only to findit later FOR SALE!!
So its not just rescues....Its about the money
This was just a day or so ago....sad...http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=123870

And You're right...I dont have small kids.
But I would never have them around Hound Dog..
I almost know he'd bite them if cornered.
And kids try petting them You just dont know.....
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It is nice when a rescue is privately funded, but most are not...I have had a number of rescues over the years. Some cost me almost nothing to rehome...others needed spaying/neutering/dental/vaccinations to the tune of $400 to $800 ..it would be much more in 2008!
Everyone wants a free Yore, I guess they think if you have to pay a good sum of money you are serious and won't return it if th slightest problem comes up.
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It is nice when a rescue is privately funded, but most are not...I have had a number of rescues over the years. Some cost me almost nothing to rehome...others needed spaying/neutering/dental/vaccinations to the tune of $400 to $800 ..it would be much more in 2008!
Everyone wants a free Yore, I guess they think if you have to pay a good sum of money you are serious and won't return it if th slightest problem comes up.
I can imagine some are in pretty bad shape...and that just makes me ill.
And I know you have to get your money back that you spent.
You....... I'm sure didnt pad the price to make $$
Some are VERY passionate about it and do it for next to nothing...
But some just arent like that...
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I totally agree with you! Here in Canada, the Canadian Yorkshire Terrier rescue group is located in Ontario, so unless you live there, forget about getting a rescue yorkie. Even if you could, it has to be to a home with no kids, fenced in yard, no smoking home, etc, etc. Then they want a fee of between $500-$1000. for the dogs to cover the vet bills! I continuously check the Humane Society and the SPCA and I have never in ,3 yrs, heard of a Yorkie or other small breed being in need of adoption.
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I agree with everything said here. Especially about PETA. I saw a documentary about its founder, and she is just plain Nuts!

Loved the white on rice comment....LOL
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I totally agree with you! Here in Canada, the Canadian Yorkshire Terrier rescue group is located in Ontario, so unless you live there, forget about getting a rescue yorkie. Even if you could, it has to be to a home with no kids, fenced in yard, no smoking home, etc, etc. Then they want a fee of between $500-$1000. for the dogs to cover the vet bills! I continuously check the Humane Society and the SPCA and I have never in ,3 yrs, heard of a Yorkie or other small breed being in need of adoption.
Same thing here You can check for years and not find a Yorkie.
Or a Maltese or a Shih Tzu or any other small breeds
And I am from Ohio that has some of the most Puppy Mills
(thanks to the amish)
Its just not going to happen.
So Its just unfair to say adopt a dog.
I'm sorry but if Im paying 500-1000 from a rescue and not knowing what more its going to cost me...What its temperment is or its health
I'm not doing it. Everyone deserves a good healhy puppy.
And not to be made to feel bad about it.
As much as we'd all love to....We cant save them all
Its sad...but its just the truth.
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I thought i was the only one feeling this way. I have seen adoption fees on petfinder for toy breeds go from 45 to 600. Some were even 25 at the lowest but most of those were far away from where I live. I would look at the prices of 500 ad up and say wow I might as well buy from a breeder. People kept saying you should adopt but it is not that simple. Most rescues don't even email you back.
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I agree with everything said here. Especially about PETA. I saw a documentary about its founder, and she is just plain Nuts!

Loved the white on rice comment....LOL
Oh dont ch even get me going on PITA...lol
And I wanted to add....
When I first joined there was a YT'er who sang the praises of adopting and rescue ...
Next thing you know shes talking about breeding this one and that one.
Can we say more $$$$$$
she never posted in the breeders section.
But I was like oh my gosh...this is Horrible...
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I thought i was the only one feeling this way. I have seen adoption fees on petfinder for toy breeds go from 45 to 600. Some were even 25 at the lowest but most of those were far away from where I live. I would look at the prices of 500 ad up and say wow I might as well buy from a breeder. People kept saying you should adopt but it is not that simple. Most rescues don't even email you back.
HAHAHA...if you "talk" to others........ MOST feel this way.
On YT and other forums, some are afraid to say it.
They dont want flamed
Not me I try my best to be open ....Honest and nice.
But I do speak my mind
Be careful also...some of those LOW adoption fees are scams!
Never send money to someone .
Some even say...you just pay for the airfare...
Then no dog....scams..
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Same thing here You can check for years and not find a Yorkie.
Or a Maltese or a Shih Tzu or any other small breeds
And I am from Ohio that has some of the most Puppy Mills
(thanks to the amish)
Its just not going to happen.
So Its just unfair to say adopt a dog.
I'm sorry but if Im paying 500-1000 from a rescue and not knowing what more its going to cost me...What its temperment is or its health
I'm not doing it. Everyone deserves a good healhy puppy.
And not to be made to feel bad about it.
As much as we'd all love to....We cant save them all
Its sad...but its just the truth.
This is so very true!! I live in Ohio as well and to find a small dog in a shelter, let alone a yorkie or yorkie cross is next to impossible!! And the waiting list for them are so long as well. If you are waiting for a yorkie to rescue around here, you will be waiting for a very long time!!
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HAHAHA...if you "talk" to others........ MOST feel this way.
On YT and other forums, some are afraid to say it.
They dont want flamed
Not me I try my best to be open ....Honest and nice.
But I do speak my mind
Be careful also...some of those LOW adoption fees are scams!
Never send money to someone .
Some even say...you just pay for the airfare...
Then no dog....scams..
You are so right. I have been sent so many scams that i keep a folder filled with them lol. It is a real shame. I am glad you posted this topic!
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I have to say that I know of several extremely reputable yorkie rescues, and the reason they charge between $200-$500 is because of all the money they put into the yorkies.

The rescues that I am speaking take in extremely sick dogs, dogs with behavioral problems, and yes, sometimes healthy dogs. They have bloodwork done on all of the dogs, spay/neuter, and any kind of treatment that they may need for whatever illnesses they might have.

Dogs who need liver shunt surgeries or surgery for LP are extremely costly. It's nothing for them to pour between $2000-$3000 on a lot of these sick dogs that come in. The organizations I am speaking of are non-profit and they rely strictly on donations and adoption fees. That means that they are STILL putting out more money on the dogs than they even take in. They donate their time, money, etc.

I think it's extremely wrong to categorize yorkie rescues as scams just because they charge between $200-$500 for their dogs. They do this to pay for medical bills, and so that they can rescue *more* dogs. They do this to afford treatment on these sick dogs that they know can live healthy lives after surgery/treatment/meds, so that they can live out very happy, healthy lives in their new homes...
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I have to say that I know of several extremely reputable yorkie rescues, and the reason they charge between $200-$500 is because of all the money they put into the yorkies.

The rescues that I am speaking take in extremely sick dogs, dogs with behavioral problems, and yes, sometimes healthy dogs. They have bloodwork done on all of the dogs, spay/neuter, and any kind of treatment that they may need for whatever illnesses they might have.

Dogs who need liver shunt surgeries or surgery for LP are extremely costly. It's nothing for them to pour between $2000-$3000 on a lot of these sick dogs that come in. The organizations I am speaking of are non-profit and they rely strictly on donations and adoption fees. That means that they are STILL putting out more money on the dogs than they even take in. They donate their time, money, etc.

I think it's extremely wrong to categorize yorkie rescues as scams just because they charge between $200-$500 for their dogs. They do this to pay for medical bills, and so that they can rescue *more* dogs. They do this to afford treatment on these sick dogs that they know can live healthy lives after surgery/treatment/meds, so that they can live out very happy, healthy lives in their new homes...
This is a prime example of people who dont read the ENTIRE thread.
And what happens when they dont
I NEVER called the Rescues scams! NEVER~
I warned the one poster about scams..and not sending money!!!!!
Go back and read it aLL ...please
I agree with you that there are a lot of reputable rescues out there.
And they have nothing but love for the animal.
I KNOW theres cost involved.
NOT ALL of them do it for love...
I just stated that all new owners of Yorkies or any other breed dont HAVE to feel bad about not wanting to rescue.
Read the post before you come back so harsh please.
I have been very nice here. You have not been IMHO
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