haircolor gone bad, need help!!!

[belindaY]

My dog has just returned from the handler with a terrible hair color situation and I need help. She told me she used "color enhancing shampoo" on him, but it has to be more than that...He's naturally a light silver-blue but now he looks more brownish. I tried washing out one small section of hair and can see blackish stuff coming off though the hair still looks brownish afterwards. I'd like to show him myself, but haven't a clue how to fix this mess on his coat. Help, please...Thank you, Belinda

[Brooklynn]

Originally Posted by belindaY

My dog has just returned from the handler with a terrible hair color situation and I need help. She told me she used "color enhancing shampoo" on him, but it has to be more than that...He's naturally a light silver-blue but now he looks more brownish. I tried washing out one small section of hair and can see blackish stuff coming off though the hair still looks brownish afterwards. I'd like to show him myself, but haven't a clue how to fix this mess on his coat. Help, please...Thank you, Belinda

Continue to shampoo with a clarifying shampoo and it may take several washings I'd start from there

[belindaY]

What is clarifying shampoo, and where do I get it? This is very distressing as his hair is otherwise gorgeous. I wouldn't have colored him, would have taken the chance of showing him lighter. Is this normal, for the color enhancer product to turn the hair brown, or is this the process of the black wearing off? Thanks again, Belinda

[Brooklynn]

Originally Posted by belindaY

What is clarifying shampoo, and where do I get it? This is very distressing as his hair is otherwise gorgeous. I wouldn't have colored him, would have taken the chance of showing him lighter. Is this normal, for the color enhancer product to turn the hair brown, or is this the process of the black wearing off? Thanks again, Belinda

Actually if you get Dawn dishwashing liquid and shampoo him with that and then put a good conditionar on him that should actually do the trick. I'm not sure what was put on the coat but I would assume it was maybe Black Rage a rinse out temp hair color and it will wash out. A clarifiying shampoo would be Coat Handlers but you buy it at like woodpeckers.com or petedge.com...but in the mean time just use the dawn...

[belindaY]

I can't tank you enough. What a terrible feeling to see that color and fearing it wasn't removable. What is black rage? Is that an acceptable thing to use on a show dog? Is it supposed to make them black? There used to be stuff I haven't seen around in a long time, made to enhance human gray hair--silkn'silver something or other. I would have thought that would be something to try on a dog to get the silver a little darker or bluish. Thanks again, Belinda

[Brooklynn]

Originally Posted by belindaY

I can't tank you enough. What a terrible feeling to see that color and fearing it wasn't removable. What is black rage? Is that an acceptable thing to use on a show dog? Is it supposed to make them black? There used to be stuff I haven't seen around in a long time, made to enhance human gray hair--silkn'silver something or other. I would have thought that would be something to try on a dog to get the silver a little darker or bluish. Thanks again, Belinda

Like I said I don't know what your handler used but what some use out there to enhance the coat they would use Black Rage and it is that fancyful that was used alot by the elderly to get that greyish blue hair something like that I think. I'm sure that is all that was put in the coat and it washable and should come out.
Donna

[Ladyhawk]

If the handler used something that opens the cuticle and lifts pigment at all you may be seeing the dogs underlying pigment. Is his gold on the dark side? I would ask the handler exactly what she used as some human color enhancing shampoos and conditioners will lift pigment especially on colored hair. Human products are more acidic than pet products so they can react differently on dogs than humans especially if the hair is damaged to start with.

[belindaY]

Definitely gold, not tan. This handler is not going to want to cooperate with me on this and will only admit to using color enhancing shampoo. I suppose if I wash his out in the detergent Brooklynn recommended, and it doesn't work, then I'll know it's a permanent dye. His hair is extrmemly long and thick, and silky feeling and does not have that brittle feel my own hair gets when it's damaged from dying, if that means anything...Thank you so so much.

[Brooklynn]

Originally Posted by belindaY

Definitely gold, not tan. This handler is not going to want to cooperate with me on this and will only admit to using color enhancing shampoo. I suppose if I wash his out in the detergent Brooklynn recommended, and it doesn't work, then I'll know it's a permanent dye. His hair is extrmemly long and thick, and silky feeling and does not have that brittle feel my own hair gets when it's damaged from dying, if that means anything...Thank you so so much.

I wouldn't think it was a permenant hair color if the small section you washed came out. That seems to me to be that temp rinse if again that small section you washed and black stuff came out...

[belindaY]

There was definitely black residue rubbing off onto my hands while I was brushing and oiling him, and the same when I washed a section. What alarmed me was when washing didn't seem to be changing the color. Stuff was coming off but the hair still had a definite brown color to it. Well, I feel better that it's not hopeless yet. If I can get him back to normal I'll need advice on safe ways to darken him a bit for showing. Thanks again

[Brooklynn]

Originally Posted by belindaY

There was definitely black residue rubbing off onto my hands while I was brushing and oiling him, and the same when I washed a section. What alarmed me was when washing didn't seem to be changing the color. Stuff was coming off but the hair still had a definite brown color to it. Well, I feel better that it's not hopeless yet. If I can get him back to normal I'll need advice on safe ways to darken him a bit for showing. Thanks again

If he's got stuff in his hair I'd be washing it out before I put oil in it. And I"m afraid I don't know what or how they use the enhancers, I know that it's done LOL

[Ladyhawk]

Originally Posted by belindaY

Definitely gold, not tan. This handler is not going to want to cooperate with me on this and will only admit to using color enhancing shampoo. I suppose if I wash his out in the detergent Brooklynn recommended, and it doesn't work, then I'll know it's a permanent dye. His hair is extrmemly long and thick, and silky feeling and does not have that brittle feel my own hair gets when it's damaged from dying, if that means anything...Thank you so so much.

The reason I asked about his tan is because if he has a strong gold gene factor than he could have warm tones in his underlying pigment, even in his blue. Permanent color isn't the only thing that will lift pigment, some color enhancers as well as exposure to the sun will do it as well. Continue to try to wash out the product that she put in and see if the warm tones disappear. If they don't feel free to pm me, maybe my mentor or I can help.

[txshopper73]

Originally Posted by Brooklynn

If he's got stuff in his hair I'd be washing it out before I put oil in it. And I"m afraid I don't know what or how they use the enhancers, I know that it's done LOL

Absolutely! Same with human hair.

Baby shampoo is also a stripper that doesn't harm the dog's eyes if you get it in there. It will take time but eventually, it'll wash out.

Good luck!

[lwolfe]

A color enhancing shampoo would be out in one wash. Black Rage should come out with one or two shampoos. There are some spray on chalks that can be stubborn. If a chalk was used, it is possible that something was put on the coat first to hold it on. I would think that only chalk would come off on your hands. Is the coat dull?

[Brooklynn]

Originally Posted by lwolfe

A color enhancing shampoo would be out in one wash. Black Rage should come out with one or two shampoos. There are some spray on chalks that can be stubborn. If a chalk was used, it is possible that something was put on the coat first to hold it on. I would think that only chalk would come off on your hands. Is the coat dull?

Only thing I've seen done to the coat is the Black Rage and I know it's suppose to come out after one shampoo...but I have heard of some gold ehancing conditionar but I have no clue how it's used....I was told once you put it in you really have to rinse, rinse, rinse to get it out but I've never seen it done so maybe they put a condionar on it and it just needs to be washed and rinsed several times