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06-19-2013, 12:07 PM | #1 |
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| something that REALLY grinds my gears... I've been meaning to address my feelings on this topic for awhile. It was recently brought up in a thread I responded to so I thought...perfect time to disclose my feelings. I don't understand why the term "teacup" is such a hush hush topic here. It's like whenever someone says teacup everyone jumps out of their skin as if they've done something so wrong. Some people WANT smaller yorkies. That's the whole reason I picked Miley...she's estimated to be no more than 4.5 lbs. Of course she can go over her estimated weight. wait let me back up... I DO understand why the term upsets people. But not every teacup is a back yard bred dog. Miley came from a reputable breeder and so have a lot of other teacup's, tinies, whatever you want to call them. I guess i'm so heated about this because a few weeks ago I saw a thread and we weren't aloud to have an "official teacup club" because the term is like an eboli virus here...yet an official teapot club is okay? I may be a little dramatic with this but that reminds me of skinny vs. fat. It's such a horrible thing to call someone fat but it's such a compliment to call someone skinny. Why is that? Like why has fat become such an insult like teacup? Some people just want smaller dogs so if there is a reputable breeder who is breeding HEALTHY teacups why is that such an issue?
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06-19-2013, 12:22 PM | #2 |
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| The breeders who are aiming for 2 pounds and under are the ones who made teacup a dirty word, in my opinion. The vast majority that are purposely bred to be that small are unhealthy and peddled through brokers. That is not to say that a 2 pound dog cannot be healthy. The breed parent club YTCA and AKC do not recognize a breed call the teacup Yorkie. The standard simply says to 7 pounds. Also, unscrupulous breeders use terms like teacup, baby doll face, teddy bear face, and so on as marketing terms to charge more money.
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06-19-2013, 12:30 PM | #3 | |
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The hairs on my neck prickle when people say Roxy is a teacup yorkie but I also have the same reaction when they tell me Lucy and Roxy aren't yorkies because they are too big. No one insults my babies. I may call them Porkie yorkies or teapots in private but never in actual public! Roxy was the smallest of her litter and I kept her because of concern for possible health issues in the future due to her small size.
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06-19-2013, 12:34 PM | #4 |
YT 2000 Club Donating Member | No reputable breeder will deliberately breed to produce "tinies" or "teacups". If so where does it end? With Yorkies the size of a mouse? Over the years Yorkies were bred down to reproduce at around 7lbs or so. Surely that is small enough? The Yorkie Breed is already under literal attack by every BYBer and puppymiller out there, producing so far off standard Yorkies, it is literally a crying shame! Not to mention the whole world of health problems we have in our breed. Spend some time in the Sick and Emergency forum, and you will start to get an idea of both the financial and emotional costs to the owners not to mention the pups of poorly bred Yorkies. It is an emotional topic here for many of us (obviously me included), as I would never support or endorse a breeding practise that focuses on producing "tinies". Quite frankly until we can overcome the health problems already present in this breed, and to do that effectively we need true genetic screening for at least the top 3 most prevalent diseases in this breed, the deliberate breeding of tinies screams a huge red flag to me.
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06-19-2013, 12:39 PM | #5 | |
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06-19-2013, 12:40 PM | #6 | |
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06-19-2013, 12:51 PM | #7 | |
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06-19-2013, 12:54 PM | #8 |
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| Yorkie Size Myths Maybe that will help you understand. In my opinion a breeder who loves the breed and wants a good blood line and etc.. they will not want their puppies to be teacups bc usually they are not healthy. When A small puppy is born from a litter a good breeder will take extra care and making sure that puppy is eating well and do what it takes to get that puppy to a healthy weight. I just don't think people realize what they do to get their puppies that small. There is no way of really telling what size your dog will be full grown. I mean their are the growth charts but for me they were off a little. Pixie was supposed to be 5lbs by the charts....lol she has surprised us and is 7 lbs, the Vet says she would like to see her at 6.5 so we are working on it.
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06-19-2013, 12:55 PM | #9 | |
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06-19-2013, 12:56 PM | #10 |
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| yesterday while cruising through my facebook page and yakking with everyone, I came across a person who belongs to a group I do, but is not one of my friends. She said (paraphrasing) I am studding out my 13 mo. old male yorkie who has .... breeding and who has one baby already when he was 8 months old. He weighs 3.5 lbs.... etc... contact me for info. I didn't like this... at all. My point of bringing this up here is that it is just "bad form" and would turn a knowledgable "dog person" away, as does the phrase "teacup" etc when describing a breed we care a lot about. |
06-19-2013, 12:56 PM | #11 | |
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06-19-2013, 12:58 PM | #12 |
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| A Teapot is healthy and their weight is normal for them. A teacup is bred to be small by starving the mother when she is pregnant or whatever they do to make sure they have a teacup....small under nourished and usually sick with health issues
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06-19-2013, 01:01 PM | #13 | |
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06-19-2013, 01:02 PM | #14 |
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| I personally feel like smaller yorkies are looked down upon because BAD people have done BAD things to the dogs to achieve the "teacup". My baby IS healthy and she is smaller. So what does she just not fit into any club?
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06-19-2013, 01:03 PM | #15 | |
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Teacup, on the other hand, is used as a marketing term to make prospective buyers to believe that the smaller Yorkies are somehow more valuable and justifies the breeder charging more $$. | |
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