Breeder Experiences in TEXAS !! - YorkieTalk.com Forums

red98vett · 07-31-2004, 05:35 AM

[b]If you are in Texas - here are 2 that I am filing on - I have personally been to both! [b]http://www.lloversyorkies.com Betty

one more time .... http://www.lloversyorkies.com

and this is a REALLY BAD ONE - http://www.yorkiecity.com BRUSHY as (Shady) Creek Kennels - Check BBB On this they are in HOCKLEY TX.

This woman had a dirty, sick puppy (with the most awful bite) - poor thing probably couldn't eat...and tried to sell her for almost $1000.00 plus many, many, dogs barking outdoors in the back that we were never allowed to see. Actually - we never made it through the front office! She was a very nasty woman when we called her out on the mis-representation of her dogs. (After driving a long way to see them)

Llovers Yorkies has her dogs kept outside - shaved down all the time - breedes the same dogs over and over. Also - she will refer people to another lady - Sandra and these 2 have a scam going...(I've checked cause that's where we got our 1st Yorkie) and she also mis-represents her dogs.

YorkieRose · 07-31-2004, 10:34 AM

That is a real shame. There is a breeder near me who keeps his Yorkies in the garage/outside..it is very hot and they have many skin problems. The reason I know is because he asked me to groom his dogs a few years ago and broughtall 6 to me. I had to wash each one 4 times before the water ran clear. I tried to get him to make a place indoors for them, but said his new girlfriend hated dogs in the house. I had to stop grooming them, it upset me too much.

lily · 07-31-2004, 11:40 AM

I hear that Pat! Some people to them there are just dogs ! I hear that allthe time ! I just have to walk off! Makes me so mad! Lily

bettyeanne · 07-31-2004, 07:39 PM

I am mortified!!! How could anyone treat ANY dog this way? Especially a little Yorkie!! Isn't there someone in these areas these people can be reported to??

red98vett · 08-01-2004, 06:26 AM

I was so mad about my 2 experiences that I wrote a long letter detailing everything - posted it on forums, emailed it to anywhere I could find...wrote the AKC, and am still looking for the SPCA in Hockley TX !

I am not giving up even thought I found a beautiful puppy. We have had her a week now today!! As of this morning - I got some response from the AKC and had wrote them back with more info and hopefully they will monitor some of these people who use the AKC NAME!!!

The nasty woman at Brushy Creek Kennels (www.yorkiecity.com) aka "Shady" Creek has not heard the end of me - thats for sure - I felt so bad for that little puppy I say....she's on my list "To NAIL !"

YorkieRose · 08-01-2004, 06:27 AM

Bettyeanne..sorry I spelled your name wrong in the other post.
I have been involved with Yorkies as a pet owner, breeder/show for over 30 yrs. In that time I have seen so much abuse it breaks my heart. I reported him to Animal control, they went to look, said the Yorkies had shelter, the garage. They had a yard ..they had food and water. Even though the garage was not heated/AC and the dogs were dirty, it did not add up to abuse. I have been accused of being a fanatic by Animal Control when it comes to Yorkies. We built on to our home so the Yorkies could be comfortable. They think I treat my dogs like humans and for the most part ignore me. I tried AKC and they inspected his records since he was breeding, all was in order. Ungroomed and being housed in a garage/outside is not against any AKC regs.
This situation is really quite minor compared to the bad cases.

lily · 08-01-2004, 07:18 AM

Hi everyone ! You would not belive how some keep there yorkies ! Makes me so mad! We built a kennel for our dog got about 12,000. in and still don't have got all done! 6 live in the house at all time! Most people are amaze when the come in to the kennel ! Man i could live in here! Then there are some That think we are crazy for putting so much money in it! That's ok we love them all! lily

bettyeanne · 08-01-2004, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by YorkieRose

Bettyeanne..sorry I spelled your name wrong in the other post.
I have been involved with Yorkies as a pet owner, breeder/show for over 30 yrs. In that time I have seen so much abuse it breaks my heart. I reported him to Animal control, they went to look, said the Yorkies had shelter, the garage. They had a yard ..they had food and water. Even though the garage was not heated/AC and the dogs were dirty, it did not add up to abuse. I have been accused of being a fanatic by Animal Control when it comes to Yorkies. We built on to our home so the Yorkies could be comfortable. They think I treat my dogs like humans and for the most part ignore me. I tried AKC and they inspected his records since he was breeding, all was in order. Ungroomed and being housed in a garage/outside is not against any AKC regs.
This situation is really quite minor compared to the bad cases.

That's OK!

There really should be stricter laws regarding kennels and breeding. I took a look at that Brushy Creek website and the closeup pictures of those puppies ... their little eyes aren't bright and happy!! I have always believed that the eyes are the windows to the soul [humans and animals]! Toto has always, since the first time we saw her, had the brightest, happiest, most inquisitive little eyes! That's one thing that I loved so much about her and even as a tiny baby she will gaze intently into our eyes for long periods at the time!

And when we talk to her she always looks us straight in the eye ... I believe that she understands what we say to her!!

Of course, we talk to her like she was human and never, never raise our voice to her!

bettyeanne · 08-01-2004, 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lily

Hi everyone ! You would not belive how some keep there yorkies ! Makes me so mad! We built a kennel for our dog got about 12,000. in and still don't have got all done! 6 live in the house at all time! Most people are amaze when the come in to the kennel ! Man i could live in here! Then there are some That think we are crazy for putting so much money in it! That's ok we love them all! lily

GOOD!! I think that's wonderful!

I would do that if I could manage more than one Yorkie! Everyone thinks we are crazy anyway!

My problem is that I can't bear for Toto to be out of my sight ... I really don't have to worry about that because she sticks to me like glue!! And I never complain!

red98vett · 08-01-2004, 02:01 PM

Hey Pat - RE: You being called a fanatic...I guess the same thing might happen with me huh? Thats ok - the more people who go and check these people out - the better chance the dogs have of their "People who keep them" (I will NOT say take care of them!) cleaning up their act .......but I doublt it!

I have also been contacted by the AKC who has given me some names - so I've been very busy Copying and pasting!!!

I actually WANT That Brushy Creek place and Betty at LLoversyorkies to KNOW it's me because I did have a few "words" via email with one and via phone with the other!!

Also I am posting the Rescue link for Yorkies - I've seen people looking for it.

http://hometown.aol.com/eiswirthl/SMALLDOGRESCUE.html

fasteddie · 08-01-2004, 02:13 PM

I totally agree with the eyes being the window to their souls bettyeanne! That's why I trusted my breeder so much, all the puppies there looked very happy and full of energy. I saw them discipline them as well (they peed on the carpet) and it was stern, but not violent or overly aggressive. Breeder visits are essential in my opinion before getting a Yorkie from a place!

moxymo · 11-10-2004, 05:05 PM

I found this thread through a google search. I am not a Yorkie owner, but a bulldog owner who bought from Brushy Creek Kennels. This operation is sham and we need to act to stop them. My dog is one of the most sickly dogs my vet has ever seen.

I am continuing to research Brushy Creek, but so you all know and can spread the word, they operate businesses with the following breeds:

Cavalier king Charles Spaniels - brushycreekkennel.com
English Bulldogs - englishbulldogshop.com
French Bulldogs - frenchbulldogcity.com
Greyhounds - greyhoundcity.com
Yorkies - yorkiecity.com

Read the sites - they cut and paste the breed into the text.

I am OUTRAGED by them and am trying to pursue action. Please reply if you'd like to join. I suggest a first step is stoping their Web master. ANother is to submit a report to the better business bureau - I did!

Please contact me if you are interested. Glad to find others to align with!

fasteddie · 11-10-2004, 07:31 PM

That's HORRIBLE moxymo! Have you considered contacting the local police at all? If your bulldog is sick, it may have been due to animal abuse or something else horrible. Anyways, thanks for letting us know about your experience with them. Perhaps we can help others avoid the same problems you have faced!

bettyeanne · 11-11-2004, 03:32 AM

moxymo, I was curious about the Continental Airlines shipping arrangements and in my Google search also found that they also offer:
Jack Russell Terriers
Bernese Mountain Dogs
Cairn Terriers
Westie
Soft Coated Wheaten Terriers

AND the following came from the Continental site regarding shipping!

Continental Airlines:
800-575-3335
"Quick Pack" for live animals - cost is $175.00 [$169.00 + fuel freight and security sur-charge]

Cargo charge is figured city to city and by the dimensional weight of the carrier plus a fuel freight and security charge based on both actual and dimensional wieght. In explanation: a 100 series carrier, ex small, has a dimensional weight that is figured to be 18 lbs. and the small carrier is figured with a dimensional weight of 33 lbs. Generally, the cargo charge to ship a kitten/cat will be $95.63 plus $5.00 fuel weight and security sur-charge or $100.63.

Note: Because of their Quick Pack service for live animals and its consequent safety to the animals, Continental only offers cargo shipment of live animals in the Spring months.

I recently flew from Atlanta to Denver with Toto on her first flight ... in cabin, under seat ... and she was absolutely traumatized!! They would not let me open her carrier on the plane and I had to endure the flight, listening to my baby's occasional "pleading" just to snuggle on my lap!!! At one point, I quietly slipped her out, wrapped her in my sweater and she didn't move or make a sound ... simply went to sleep ... one of the attendants saw her and summoned a male attendant, who rudely and loudly [as if I were wearing a hearing aide] said "Ma'am ... the DOG cannot be out of the carrier"! Before I could move to put her back, he repeated himself in the same tone as if I didn't hear him! I simply looked him in the eye and quietly said "I know" and placed her back in the carrier! Needless to say, that was the first flight on that airline ... and the last!!! I cannot imagine one stored like baggage and listening to the roaring sound in that compartment for that length of time!!!

My question is: How can a kennel breed over ten different breeds and properly care for them all? I would imagine that it would have to be a HUGE operation!! Have you seen their kennel? I hope that your puppy will turn out to be healthy after all your effort! Please keep us updated!

Candace_Chang · 11-11-2004, 11:03 AM

That's horrible, maybe we should report them to the AKC and all that. That's so wrong. I also had that experiece too, I drove from waco to OK last easter to pick up a yorkie baby, and the owner had all these dogs everywhere and they wouldn't let me see the place where the yorkie is living and when the puppy came out, he's all dirty and sick and was coughing too. I felt really bad so I bought him home anyway, when i washed him, he had all kinds of mud and dirt, maybe poo too on him, and he was so scare of everything. Later, I found out that , that puppy wasn't even a yorkie, it was a silk terrier...
I took him to the vet and he had all kinds of problem and stuff, I tried to contact the breeder and tell him what's wrong with him..but he was so rude and ignored my phone-calls and e-mail, so I had my sister called him, he picked up right away. I felt so angry and bad. Anyway, there are way too many horrible breeders out there, and they needed to be stop. Let me know if I can help in any way.

07-31-2004, 05:35 AM	#1
red98vett Yorkie Kisses are the Best! Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Houston TX Posts: 30,421	Breeder Experiences in TEXAS !! [b]If you are in Texas - here are 2 that I am filing on - I have personally been to both! [b]http://www.lloversyorkies.com Betty one more time .... http://www.lloversyorkies.com and this is a REALLY BAD ONE - http://www.yorkiecity.com BRUSHY as (Shady) Creek Kennels - Check BBB On this they are in HOCKLEY TX. This woman had a dirty, sick puppy (with the most awful bite) - poor thing probably couldn't eat...and tried to sell her for almost $1000.00 plus many, many, dogs barking outdoors in the back that we were never allowed to see. Actually - we never made it through the front office! She was a very nasty woman when we called her out on the mis-representation of her dogs. (After driving a long way to see them) Llovers Yorkies has her dogs kept outside - shaved down all the time - breedes the same dogs over and over. Also - she will refer people to another lady - Sandra and these 2 have a scam going...(I've checked cause that's where we got our 1st Yorkie) and she also mis-represents her dogs. __________________ Villette, Chanel & Cheri.. AKA Spy-Girls (photos here) Click for LABELS Click for CARDS * SAY NO to PET STORES ! www.designsbyvillette.com USING YOUR PHOTOS ! Last edited by red98vett; 03-26-2005 at 07:51 AM.

07-31-2004, 10:34 AM	#2
YorkieRose YT 4000 Club Member Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 7,207	breeders That is a real shame. There is a breeder near me who keeps his Yorkies in the garage/outside..it is very hot and they have many skin problems. The reason I know is because he asked me to groom his dogs a few years ago and broughtall 6 to me. I had to wash each one 4 times before the water ran clear. I tried to get him to make a place indoors for them, but said his new girlfriend hated dogs in the house. I had to stop grooming them, it upset me too much. __________________ Pat, Kate, Becca and Pinkkee Prim

07-31-2004, 07:39 PM	#4
bettyeanne Donating YT 7000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Alabama, etc. Posts: 7,892	I am mortified!!! How could anyone treat ANY dog this way? Especially a little Yorkie!! Isn't there someone in these areas these people can be reported to?? __________________ Toto's Mom - http://www.dogster.com/?206581 Yorkie Rescue Colorado - http://yorkierescuecolorado.com/home.html

08-01-2004, 06:26 AM	#5
red98vett Yorkie Kisses are the Best! Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Houston TX Posts: 30,421	Reporting Breeders I was so mad about my 2 experiences that I wrote a long letter detailing everything - posted it on forums, emailed it to anywhere I could find...wrote the AKC, and am still looking for the SPCA in Hockley TX ! I am not giving up even thought I found a beautiful puppy. We have had her a week now today!! As of this morning - I got some response from the AKC and had wrote them back with more info and hopefully they will monitor some of these people who use the AKC NAME!!! The nasty woman at Brushy Creek Kennels (www.yorkiecity.com) aka "Shady" Creek has not heard the end of me - thats for sure - I felt so bad for that little puppy I say....she's on my list "To NAIL !" __________________ Villette, Chanel & Cheri.. AKA Spy-Girls (photos here) Click for LABELS Click for CARDS * SAY NO to PET STORES ! www.designsbyvillette.com USING YOUR PHOTOS !

08-01-2004, 06:27 AM	#6
YorkieRose YT 4000 Club Member Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 7,207	abuse Bettyeanne..sorry I spelled your name wrong in the other post. I have been involved with Yorkies as a pet owner, breeder/show for over 30 yrs. In that time I have seen so much abuse it breaks my heart. I reported him to Animal control, they went to look, said the Yorkies had shelter, the garage. They had a yard ..they had food and water. Even though the garage was not heated/AC and the dogs were dirty, it did not add up to abuse. I have been accused of being a fanatic by Animal Control when it comes to Yorkies. We built on to our home so the Yorkies could be comfortable. They think I treat my dogs like humans and for the most part ignore me. I tried AKC and they inspected his records since he was breeding, all was in order. Ungroomed and being housed in a garage/outside is not against any AKC regs. This situation is really quite minor compared to the bad cases. __________________ Pat, Kate, Becca and Pinkkee Prim

07-31-2004, 11:40 AM	#3
lily Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: paris crossing,indiana Posts: 235	I hear that Pat! Some people to them there are just dogs ! I hear that allthe time ! I just have to walk off! Makes me so mad! Lily

08-01-2004, 07:18 AM	#7
lily Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: paris crossing,indiana Posts: 235	Breeders Hi everyone ! You would not belive how some keep there yorkies ! Makes me so mad! We built a kennel for our dog got about 12,000. in and still don't have got all done! 6 live in the house at all time! Most people are amaze when the come in to the kennel ! Man i could live in here! Then there are some That think we are crazy for putting so much money in it! That's ok we love them all! lily

08-01-2004, 02:01 PM	#10
red98vett Yorkie Kisses are the Best! Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Houston TX Posts: 30,421	Pat - you little Fanatic!!! Hey Pat - RE: You being called a fanatic...I guess the same thing might happen with me huh? Thats ok - the more people who go and check these people out - the better chance the dogs have of their "People who keep them" (I will NOT say take care of them!) cleaning up their act .......but I doublt it! I have also been contacted by the AKC who has given me some names - so I've been very busy Copying and pasting!!! I actually WANT That Brushy Creek place and Betty at LLoversyorkies to KNOW it's me because I did have a few "words" via email with one and via phone with the other!! Also I am posting the Rescue link for Yorkies - I've seen people looking for it. http://hometown.aol.com/eiswirthl/SMALLDOGRESCUE.html __________________ Villette, Chanel & Cheri.. AKA Spy-Girls (photos here) Click for LABELS Click for CARDS * SAY NO to PET STORES ! www.designsbyvillette.com USING YOUR PHOTOS !

08-01-2004, 02:13 PM	#11
fasteddie *YT 5000 Club Member* Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 5,824	I totally agree with the eyes being the window to their souls bettyeanne! That's why I trusted my breeder so much, all the puppies there looked very happy and full of energy. I saw them discipline them as well (they peed on the carpet) and it was stern, but not violent or overly aggressive. Breeder visits are essential in my opinion before getting a Yorkie from a place!

11-10-2004, 05:05 PM	#12
moxymo YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 5	I Know This Breeder Too Well I found this thread through a google search. I am not a Yorkie owner, but a bulldog owner who bought from Brushy Creek Kennels. This operation is sham and we need to act to stop them. My dog is one of the most sickly dogs my vet has ever seen. I am continuing to research Brushy Creek, but so you all know and can spread the word, they operate businesses with the following breeds: Cavalier king Charles Spaniels - brushycreekkennel.com English Bulldogs - englishbulldogshop.com French Bulldogs - frenchbulldogcity.com Greyhounds - greyhoundcity.com Yorkies - yorkiecity.com Read the sites - they cut and paste the breed into the text. I am OUTRAGED by them and am trying to pursue action. Please reply if you'd like to join. I suggest a first step is stoping their Web master. ANother is to submit a report to the better business bureau - I did! Please contact me if you are interested. Glad to find others to align with!

11-10-2004, 07:31 PM	#13
fasteddie *YT 5000 Club Member* Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 5,824	That's HORRIBLE moxymo! Have you considered contacting the local police at all? If your bulldog is sick, it may have been due to animal abuse or something else horrible. Anyways, thanks for letting us know about your experience with them. Perhaps we can help others avoid the same problems you have faced!

11-11-2004, 03:32 AM	#14
bettyeanne Donating YT 7000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Alabama, etc. Posts: 7,892	moxymo, I was curious about the Continental Airlines shipping arrangements and in my Google search also found that they also offer: Jack Russell Terriers Bernese Mountain Dogs Cairn Terriers Westie Soft Coated Wheaten Terriers AND the following came from the Continental site regarding shipping! Continental Airlines: 800-575-3335 "Quick Pack" for live animals - cost is $175.00 [$169.00 + fuel freight and security sur-charge] Cargo charge is figured city to city and by the dimensional weight of the carrier plus a fuel freight and security charge based on both actual and dimensional wieght. In explanation: a 100 series carrier, ex small, has a dimensional weight that is figured to be 18 lbs. and the small carrier is figured with a dimensional weight of 33 lbs. Generally, the cargo charge to ship a kitten/cat will be $95.63 plus $5.00 fuel weight and security sur-charge or $100.63. Note: Because of their Quick Pack service for live animals and its consequent safety to the animals, Continental only offers cargo shipment of live animals in the Spring months. I recently flew from Atlanta to Denver with Toto on her first flight ... in cabin, under seat ... and she was absolutely traumatized!! They would not let me open her carrier on the plane and I had to endure the flight, listening to my baby's occasional "pleading" just to snuggle on my lap!!! At one point, I quietly slipped her out, wrapped her in my sweater and she didn't move or make a sound ... simply went to sleep ... one of the attendants saw her and summoned a male attendant, who rudely and loudly [as if I were wearing a hearing aide] said "Ma'am ... the DOG cannot be out of the carrier"! Before I could move to put her back, he repeated himself in the same tone as if I didn't hear him! I simply looked him in the eye and quietly said "I know" and placed her back in the carrier! Needless to say, that was the first flight on that airline ... and the last!!! I cannot imagine one stored like baggage and listening to the roaring sound in that compartment for that length of time!!! My question is: How can a kennel breed over ten different breeds and properly care for them all? I would imagine that it would have to be a HUGE operation!! Have you seen their kennel? I hope that your puppy will turn out to be healthy after all your effort! Please keep us updated! __________________ Toto's Mom - http://www.dogster.com/?206581 Yorkie Rescue Colorado - http://yorkierescuecolorado.com/home.html

11-11-2004, 11:03 AM	#15
Candace_Chang Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 187	What?!?!? That's horrible, maybe we should report them to the AKC and all that. That's so wrong. I also had that experiece too, I drove from waco to OK last easter to pick up a yorkie baby, and the owner had all these dogs everywhere and they wouldn't let me see the place where the yorkie is living and when the puppy came out, he's all dirty and sick and was coughing too. I felt really bad so I bought him home anyway, when i washed him, he had all kinds of mud and dirt, maybe poo too on him, and he was so scare of everything. Later, I found out that , that puppy wasn't even a yorkie, it was a silk terrier... I took him to the vet and he had all kinds of problem and stuff, I tried to contact the breeder and tell him what's wrong with him..but he was so rude and ignored my phone-calls and e-mail, so I had my sister called him, he picked up right away. I felt so angry and bad. Anyway, there are way too many horrible breeders out there, and they needed to be stop. Let me know if I can help in any way.