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Candace_Chang · 11-20-2005, 09:44 AM

Have you guys heard or researched on www.yorkietpup.com ? The owner is Jeff Dane and http://www.firebrandyorkies.com ? I have heard good reviews about them....but I have not personally met them

fifi · 11-20-2005, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by txshopper73

Don't ask! That name has been tossed around here and beat to death.

Are you saying that www.yorkiepup.com and Jeff Dane are not reputable or that they are??

feminvstr · 11-20-2005, 10:40 AM

this is silly please anyone that wants to know about Jeff Dane or his multitude of websites do a YT topic search...then a google search...

THIS TOPIC as been discussed enough.

Chang you were a party to the other thread asking about him so why are you asking again!!!?????

JEFF DANE at his best with his AKA or little site helpers to get people to his sites DONT FALL FOR THESE LAST TWO POST, with the exception of Kimberley!!!

ENOUGH SAID!

red98vett · 11-20-2005, 10:43 AM

Kimberly is right - Jeff Dane has a TERRIBLE rep and you can search the net or get on his site to see why - That man is a Breed for Profit greedy breeder who has sold many sick puppies in the few years I've been researching and posting about yorkies.

SoCalyorkiLvr · 11-20-2005, 10:50 AM

On the other side of the coin, there are people who rave and say good things about him so I would simply suggest that you not pay attention to forum rumors from people who have never been to his kennel or spoken to him personally and that everyone do their own research and call him and preferably go see his kennel and make up their own mind. There were rumors spread which are not true, and I have a couple of forum friends who got pups from him and were at his facility, met him in person and think he is the greatest.

I have never met him or seen his kennel and the things I read on the internet do not sound credible to me so my opinion is based on his website, some email communications and what my friends who have gotten puppies from him have said.

feminvstr · 11-20-2005, 10:54 AM

SO MUCH FOIR NOT DISCUSSING THIS KIM!

STOP !!!!

These are obviously shells!!! in yet another game of chess to get interest back to his site!

ADMIN would you please close this thread!

red98vett · 11-20-2005, 11:03 AM

Kim..SOCAL...This thread is about BAD Breeder experiences - can we stay on that subject and not change the thread ?

I would hate to see a debate start here and it get closed - this thread has already helped many people.... and though I can't talk about it on the site yet - let's just say YORKIETALK should be proud of itself for keeping this thread up 1-1/2 YEARS and it's still being read.

You just have no idea Kim - let's not end it because you want to praise Jeff Dane......This thread is not about praising breeders - it's to WARN people to in Texas to watch out where they buy their puppies.

PLEASE ....we all know how you feel ...let's leave it at that.

Candace_Chang · 11-20-2005, 11:18 AM

Sorry, I totally forgot about that, is just that one of my friend wanted to get a baby from there, and I didn't know what to say to her...so I asked ..

red98vett · 11-20-2005, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Candace_Chang

Sorry, I totally forgot about that, is just that one of my friend wanted to get a baby from there, and I didn't know what to say to her...so I asked ..

That's ok !! We sometimes get off subject - we all do it -

Help your friend by doing searches on the net - Type in Jeff Dane -

One thing about looking at websites ...we don't really get the whole image - look at the prices - look at the pictures - you will feel in your heart if you know it's a good site or bad - even better - visit in person....but try not to fall for the Hype of Jeff Dane - he is a master of Sales and has made alot of money by being so good - what people don't see is the broken hearts left in his wake. I used to know quite a few people who dealt with him - it's not good.

Candace_Chang · 11-20-2005, 11:43 AM

Is there anything we can do about these kind of breeders? ? ?
I feel so bad for the puppies...they have done nothing wrong...
They need to be stopped...and the puppies need to go to a good home....

PlatinumYorkies · 11-20-2005, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Candace_Chang

That's horrible, maybe we should report them to the AKC and all that. That's so wrong. I also had that experiece too, I drove from waco to OK last easter to pick up a yorkie baby, and the owner had all these dogs everywhere and they wouldn't let me see the place where the yorkie is living and when the puppy came out, he's all dirty and sick and was coughing too. I felt really bad so I bought him home anyway, when i washed him, he had all kinds of mud and dirt, maybe poo too on him, and he was so scare of everything. Later, I found out that , that puppy wasn't even a yorkie, it was a silk terrier...
I took him to the vet and he had all kinds of problem and stuff, I tried to contact the breeder and tell him what's wrong with him..but he was so rude and ignored my phone-calls and e-mail, so I had my sister called him, he picked up right away. I felt so angry and bad. Anyway, there are way too many horrible breeders out there, and they needed to be stop. Let me know if I can help in any way.

Hey, Candy here is your original post....
Thing's slip my mind also... I completey made my ___ late for the football game because I put his tickets up, and forgot where they were...He is at the game now...So no problem

red98vett · 11-20-2005, 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Candace_Chang

Is there anything we can do about these kind of breeders? ? ?
I feel so bad for the puppies...they have done nothing wrong...
They need to be stopped...and the puppies need to go to a good home....

The best thing to do is share personal experiences or share something you know to be true - pass the word along and try to enlighten people about the dangers of buying from unethical or really BAD breeders ...If you know of abuse or neglect - report it....it can't hurt that's for sure.

I posted THIS thread a long time ago about experiences I personally had.... and you'd be surprised at where it went in as far as people reading ...

people really can help each other & in turn - we can help the poor dogs in bad situations...or at least get people to take notice.

Mone't ...Where did you get that post by Candice and who is she referring to ? I missed that one !! Poor girl !! That sounds awful

Edited again - I found it - she went to Oklahoma and Candice - I WOULD report that.

fasteddie · 03-13-2006, 03:17 PM

Thanks to all those who have contributed to this thread!

Here's an update on the Wizard of Claws in Florida:
---
March 12, 2005
Picket signs go up at pet store
Dog lovers protested a Pembroke Pines

With a frisky Chihuahua at her feet, Vanessa Bosse and about a dozen others picketed a Pembroke Pines store Saturday, accusing its owners of tricking customers into buying sick puppies.

Even though Nacho, Bosse's dog, came with a certificate of health, he had diarrhea the day she took him home from the Wizard of Claws store, she said. Nacho was also coughing and scratching his ears, said Bosse, 44, who lives in Sunny Isles Beach and Monte Carlo.

''We would really like to educate people so they will not be fooled like we were fooled,'' said Bosse, who filed a lawsuit against Wizard of Claws in Broward Circuit Court late last year. ``You don't have to buy a dog when you can adopt one.''

Protesters said they want to encourage others not to buy from the store at 9113 Taft St.

A SEPARATE LAWSUIT

Last month, the national Humane Society joined a separate lawsuit in Broward Circuit Court against the store on behalf of five customers in Cooper City, Miami, Texas and California.

Originally filed in 2003, the lawsuit asks the court to find the store in violation of the Florida Deceptive and Unfair Trade Practices Act, and to order the store to repay customers for the purchase price and veterinarian expenses.

Florida Attorney General Charlie Crist also opened an investigation on Feb. 15, looking into claims against Wizard of Claws, said Crist's spokeswoman JoAnn Carrin.

A call to the store from The Miami Herald was not returned Friday. The doors were locked Saturday, and employees in the store would not open the door. One employee said Jim Anderson, whose wife, Gilda owns the store, was out of town.

Anderson previously told The Miami Herald that he doesn't knowingly sell sick puppies: ``They leave here apparently looking healthy.''

Bosse, who paid more than $5,000 for Nacho, a fawn and white Chihuahua, took him home Jan. 29. A few days later, her veterinarian diagnosed Nacho with kennel cough, ear mites and giardia, a parasite living in the small intestines, she said.

Bosse became suspicious. She said she tracked down her breeder in Oklahoma with the help of the stopwizardofclaws.com web site.

Bosse's veterinarian, another breeder and an official from the Florida Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services confirmed that Nacho was the result of breeding within the same family of dogs, which can lead to health problems, Bosse said.

''It broke my heart,'' said Bosse ``I was devastated.''

PUPPY MILLS

Saturday's protesters, including at least one member of a South Florida rescue group, stood on Taft Street holding picket signs. They claim Wizard of Claws buys dogs from ''puppy mills,'' or massive out-of-state commercial breeding operations.

Breeders in ''puppy mills'' do not take into account the dogs' pedigree or genetics, said Judi McKissick, a board member of the Bulldog Club of South Florida.

''They are not breeding for the betterment of the breed,'' she said. ``They are breeding purely for profit. It's a horrendous problem.''

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald...y/14078146.htm

red98vett · 03-13-2006, 03:26 PM

YES !!!!!!!!!!!

I just read that whole article and thank you for posting that ....I think it's great that people are taking action and going after that Awful Pet Store...no one should have the heartache of buying a sick puppy...or worse...having their puppies die.

The information about them getting the Pet Store puppies from Mills hopefully is an eye opener for anyone considering a Pet Store to purchase their new dogs...Stay Away !!

I know I owe you a personal Thanks Fasteddie.....You have let people share what they know on this site without fear of anyone 'coming after' you...

This post I did so long ago did cause you some grief...I know the Kennel made threats about what I said....but you stood up to it and I want to thank you for that.

red98vett · 03-13-2006, 03:44 PM

THIS comment io bold was pathetic by the WIZ of Claws:

A call to the store from The Miami Herald was not returned Friday. The doors were locked Saturday, and employees in the store would not open the door. One employee said Jim Anderson, whose wife, Gilda owns the store, was out of town.

Anderson previously told The Miami Herald that he doesn't knowingly sell sick puppies: ``They leave here apparently looking healthy.''

YEAH...Right. I'm sure people believe him.

So....We have The Wizard of Claws....action taken against them
Brushy Creek Kennels in Texas.....Pending action against them
Jeff Dane in Texas....NEEDING someone to talk action against him

11-20-2005, 09:44 AM	#61
Candace_Chang Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 187	Have u guys heard? Have you guys heard or researched on www.yorkietpup.com ? The owner is Jeff Dane and http://www.firebrandyorkies.com ? I have heard good reviews about them....but I have not personally met them

11-20-2005, 10:40 AM	#63
feminvstr Donating YT 4000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Portland Oregon Posts: 4,405	this is silly please anyone that wants to know about Jeff Dane or his multitude of websites do a YT topic search...then a google search... THIS TOPIC as been discussed enough. Chang you were a party to the other thread asking about him so why are you asking again!!!????? JEFF DANE at his best with his AKA or little site helpers to get people to his sites DONT FALL FOR THESE LAST TWO POST, with the exception of Kimberley!!! ENOUGH SAID! __________________ Kimberly

11-20-2005, 10:43 AM	#64
red98vett Yorkie Kisses are the Best! Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Houston TX Posts: 33,590 Blog Entries: 1	Kimberly is right - Jeff Dane has a TERRIBLE rep and you can search the net or get on his site to see why - That man is a Breed for Profit greedy breeder who has sold many sick puppies in the few years I've been researching and posting about yorkies. __________________ Villette, Chanel & Cheri www.DesignsByVillette.net Custom Address Labels and Note Cards using YOUR Photos! Just Click HERE!

11-20-2005, 10:54 AM	#66
feminvstr Donating YT 4000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Portland Oregon Posts: 4,405	SO MUCH FOIR NOT DISCUSSING THIS KIM! STOP !!!! These are obviously shells!!! in yet another game of chess to get interest back to his site! ADMIN would you please close this thread! __________________ Kimberly

11-20-2005, 11:03 AM	#67
red98vett Yorkie Kisses are the Best! Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Houston TX Posts: 33,590 Blog Entries: 1	Kim..SOCAL...This thread is about BAD Breeder experiences - can we stay on that subject and not change the thread ? I would hate to see a debate start here and it get closed - this thread has already helped many people.... and though I can't talk about it on the site yet - let's just say YORKIETALK should be proud of itself for keeping this thread up 1-1/2 YEARS and it's still being read. You just have no idea Kim - let's not end it because you want to praise Jeff Dane......This thread is not about praising breeders - it's to WARN people to in Texas to watch out where they buy their puppies. PLEASE ....we all know how you feel ...let's leave it at that. __________________ Villette, Chanel & Cheri www.DesignsByVillette.net Custom Address Labels and Note Cards using YOUR Photos! Just Click HERE!

11-20-2005, 10:50 AM	#65
SoCalyorkiLvr BANNED! Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 8,246	On the other side of the coin, there are people who rave and say good things about him so I would simply suggest that you not pay attention to forum rumors from people who have never been to his kennel or spoken to him personally and that everyone do their own research and call him and preferably go see his kennel and make up their own mind. There were rumors spread which are not true, and I have a couple of forum friends who got pups from him and were at his facility, met him in person and think he is the greatest. I have never met him or seen his kennel and the things I read on the internet do not sound credible to me so my opinion is based on his website, some email communications and what my friends who have gotten puppies from him have said.

11-20-2005, 11:18 AM	#68
Candace_Chang Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 187	sorry~ Sorry, I totally forgot about that, is just that one of my friend wanted to get a baby from there, and I didn't know what to say to her...so I asked ..

11-20-2005, 11:43 AM	#70
Candace_Chang Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 187	Is there anything we can do about it? Is there anything we can do about these kind of breeders? ? ? I feel so bad for the puppies...they have done nothing wrong... They need to be stopped...and the puppies need to go to a good home....

03-13-2006, 03:17 PM	#73
fasteddie *YT 6000 Club Member* Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 6,238	Thanks to all those who have contributed to this thread! Here's an update on the Wizard of Claws in Florida: --- March 12, 2005 Picket signs go up at pet store Dog lovers protested a Pembroke Pines With a frisky Chihuahua at her feet, Vanessa Bosse and about a dozen others picketed a Pembroke Pines store Saturday, accusing its owners of tricking customers into buying sick puppies. Even though Nacho, Bosse's dog, came with a certificate of health, he had diarrhea the day she took him home from the Wizard of Claws store, she said. Nacho was also coughing and scratching his ears, said Bosse, 44, who lives in Sunny Isles Beach and Monte Carlo. ''We would really like to educate people so they will not be fooled like we were fooled,'' said Bosse, who filed a lawsuit against Wizard of Claws in Broward Circuit Court late last year. ``You don't have to buy a dog when you can adopt one.'' Protesters said they want to encourage others not to buy from the store at 9113 Taft St. A SEPARATE LAWSUIT Last month, the national Humane Society joined a separate lawsuit in Broward Circuit Court against the store on behalf of five customers in Cooper City, Miami, Texas and California. Originally filed in 2003, the lawsuit asks the court to find the store in violation of the Florida Deceptive and Unfair Trade Practices Act, and to order the store to repay customers for the purchase price and veterinarian expenses. Florida Attorney General Charlie Crist also opened an investigation on Feb. 15, looking into claims against Wizard of Claws, said Crist's spokeswoman JoAnn Carrin. A call to the store from The Miami Herald was not returned Friday. The doors were locked Saturday, and employees in the store would not open the door. One employee said Jim Anderson, whose wife, Gilda owns the store, was out of town. Anderson previously told The Miami Herald that he doesn't knowingly sell sick puppies: ``They leave here apparently looking healthy.'' Bosse, who paid more than $5,000 for Nacho, a fawn and white Chihuahua, took him home Jan. 29. A few days later, her veterinarian diagnosed Nacho with kennel cough, ear mites and giardia, a parasite living in the small intestines, she said. Bosse became suspicious. She said she tracked down her breeder in Oklahoma with the help of the stopwizardofclaws.com web site. Bosse's veterinarian, another breeder and an official from the Florida Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services confirmed that Nacho was the result of breeding within the same family of dogs, which can lead to health problems, Bosse said. ''It broke my heart,'' said Bosse ``I was devastated.'' PUPPY MILLS Saturday's protesters, including at least one member of a South Florida rescue group, stood on Taft Street holding picket signs. They claim Wizard of Claws buys dogs from ''puppy mills,'' or massive out-of-state commercial breeding operations. Breeders in ''puppy mills'' do not take into account the dogs' pedigree or genetics, said Judi McKissick, a board member of the Bulldog Club of South Florida. ''They are not breeding for the betterment of the breed,'' she said. ``They are breeding purely for profit. It's a horrendous problem.'' http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald...y/14078146.htm __________________ YODA & WINKY R ::: RIP Winky ::: RIP Yoda! Last edited by fasteddie; 04-27-2006 at 01:16 PM.

03-13-2006, 03:26 PM	#74
red98vett Yorkie Kisses are the Best! Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Houston TX Posts: 33,590 Blog Entries: 1	YES !!!!!!!!!!! I just read that whole article and thank you for posting that ....I think it's great that people are taking action and going after that Awful Pet Store...no one should have the heartache of buying a sick puppy...or worse...having their puppies die. The information about them getting the Pet Store puppies from Mills hopefully is an eye opener for anyone considering a Pet Store to purchase their new dogs...Stay Away !! I know I owe you a personal Thanks Fasteddie.....You have let people share what they know on this site without fear of anyone 'coming after' you... This post I did so long ago did cause you some grief...I know the Kennel made threats about what I said....but you stood up to it and I want to thank you for that. __________________ Villette, Chanel & Cheri www.DesignsByVillette.net Custom Address Labels and Note Cards using YOUR Photos! Just Click HERE! Last edited by admin; 03-13-2006 at 03:50 PM.

03-13-2006, 03:44 PM	#75
red98vett Yorkie Kisses are the Best! Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Houston TX Posts: 33,590 Blog Entries: 1	THIS comment io bold was pathetic by the WIZ of Claws: A call to the store from The Miami Herald was not returned Friday. The doors were locked Saturday, and employees in the store would not open the door. One employee said Jim Anderson, whose wife, Gilda owns the store, was out of town. Anderson previously told The Miami Herald that he doesn't knowingly sell sick puppies: ``They leave here apparently looking healthy.'' YEAH...Right. I'm sure people believe him. So....We have The Wizard of Claws....action taken against them Brushy Creek Kennels in Texas.....Pending action against them Jeff Dane in Texas....NEEDING someone to talk action against him __________________ Villette, Chanel & Cheri www.DesignsByVillette.net Custom Address Labels and Note Cards using YOUR Photos! Just Click HERE!