i want a yorkie

[Bradley Wieseha]

[QUOTE=jazzygirl;1252853]If you are speaking of me; I have not responded because I have not been on this board for several weeks.[QUOTE]

No no not you lol. I ment rebecca. I find it odd that she hasn't replied to ANY of our posts. She posted two threads saying she wanted a yorkie, one here and one in the rescue forum. but she hasnt replied to anyones advice or encoragement. hmmmm I just thought that was odd.

[jazzygirl]

Originally Posted by Bradley Wieseha

yeah by half a pound but what does that have to do with anything. I was saying that i found a yorkie that was in good health AKC registered and basically followed the standards for $300. There are several people on here with 12 13 pound babies on here.

The weight, height, stance, heritage, etc., all have a LOT to do with the price of a healthy Yorkie pup. And depending on your geographic location in the US, will also have a factor in the overall price of an AKC Yorkie pup, within breed standards.
I am not trying to be difficult, but for someone very concerned with keeping the breed standards--1/2 lb matters!
You were very lucky to get an AKC Yorkie for $300.00! I am very happy for you and your Yorkie baby. Even for a "pet quality" AKC Yorkie--that is a very low price.
You go girl!!!!!

[Anna Banana]

Originally Posted by jazzygirl

The weight, height, stance, heritage, etc., all have a LOT to do with the price of a healthy Yorkie pup. And depending on your geographic location in the US, will also have a factor in the overall price of an AKC Yorkie pup, within breed standards.
I am not trying to be difficult, but for someone very concerned with keeping the breed standards--1/2 lb matters!
You were very lucky to get an AKC Yorkie for $300.00! I am very happy for you and your Yorkie baby. Even for a "pet quality" AKC Yorkie--that is a very low price.
You go girl!!!!!

There's nothing wrong with a 1/2 pound, it makes for an excellent pet, but it does put a yorkie out of standard. I was only asking you, Bradley Wieseha, because you said that you got a yorkie that was standard in weight, size, and appearance, but I remembered you saying that your baby was almost 9 lbs. It doesn't matter though. I'm sure your baby is perfect.

[karren]

I have waited for 5 years to get a yorkie and I got her from the pet store because it was very reasonable especially in OC. I got her for $750. she has akc and shot and coccidia too. after 3 months she passed away of genetic disease. So I recommend alot of research.. and patience.... I got one from a breeder.... he was expensive but at least I know his background and the breeder has been breeding it for 10 years. Then I realized that he needed a friend so I got one for $250 and has akc and he is 7 lbs.(from recycler ad)

[Bradley Wieseha]

Originally Posted by Anna Banana

There's nothing wrong with a 1/2 pound, it makes for an excellent pet, but it does put a yorkie out of standard. I was only asking you, Bradley Wieseha, because you said that you got a yorkie that was standard in weight, size, and appearance, but I remembered you saying that your baby was almost 9 lbs. It doesn't matter though. I'm sure your baby is perfect.

OH i remember what you are talking about!! I went back and had them reweigh him because there was no way he gained that much weight in one month. They reweighed him and it came up about 7.4 7.5 I still dont think its quite right but who knows. lol

[Bradley Wieseha]

Originally Posted by jazzygirl

The weight, height, stance, heritage, etc., all have a LOT to do with the price of a healthy Yorkie pup. And depending on your geographic location in the US, will also have a factor in the overall price of an AKC Yorkie pup, within breed standards.
I am not trying to be difficult, but for someone very concerned with keeping the breed standards--1/2 lb matters!
You were very lucky to get an AKC Yorkie for $300.00! I am very happy for you and your Yorkie baby. Even for a "pet quality" AKC Yorkie--that is a very low price.
You go girl!!!!!

Im not that concerned with keeping the breed standards all i said was it was possible to get an AKC registered yorkie for $300. I dont really care that he's a little over to me he's perfect. I'm afraid of getting a baby thats not registered because a lot of breeders who are out there just for the money will inbreed and i dont want that. I think that is so wrong that some people inbreed just to get something that will sell for big bucks...

[Mardelin]

Ok as a breeder and exhibitor I think I'll put my 2 cents in here. Yes, there is a breed standard that says not to exceed 7 pounds, silk coat, eyes, topline, etc. But, it seems that weight is discussed more than anything else on YT. The standard was written with the perfect yorkie in mind, there is no such thing. So a yorkie is 1, 2, 3, 4 or more pounds past the standard. Is the yorkie healthy? What about all the other qualities of the dog?

A poster is stated they got a yorkie for $300.00, great and excellent if it's healthy. Wonderful price, but very unusual. So, it weighs maybe one pound past the standard. Big deal. I have Champion females that weighed 6 pounds while showing in their prime. After a couple of litters, guess what 7 1/2 pounds, maybe 8. Women due tend to gain and spread after childbirth.

There is no perfect yorkie. Well! I'm sure most of you will disagree with me, your babies are all perfect, right?

By the way being AKC registered, doesn't necessarily make every AKC breeder a good breeder that is breeding quality dogs.

[Bradley Wieseha]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

Ok as a breeder and exhibitor I think I'll put my 2 cents in here. Yes, there is a breed standard that says not to exceed 7 pounds, silk coat, eyes, topline, etc. But, it seems that weight is discussed more than anything else on YT. The standard was written with the perfect yorkie in mind, there is no such thing. So a yorkie is 1, 2, 3, 4 or more pounds past the standard. Is the yorkie healthy? What about all the other qualities of the dog?

A poster is stated they got a yorkie for $300.00, great and excellent if it's healthy. Wonderful price, but very unusual. So, it weighs maybe one pound past the standard. Big deal. I have Champion females that weighed 6 pounds while showing in their prime. After a couple of litters, guess what 7 1/2 pounds, maybe 8. Women due tend to gain and spread after childbirth.

There is no perfect yorkie. Well! I'm sure most of you will disagree with me, your babies are all perfect, right?

By the way being AKC registered, doesn't necessarily make every AKC breeder a good breeder that is breeding quality dogs.

I completely agree. I actually dont like the standards. i think they are unfair and almost prejudice. As for breeders, I know that not every AKC breeder is a good one. And some of the pups are probably not as healthy as they could or should be. but for me the AKC registration ruled out there being any weird problems from inbreeding.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by Bradley Wieseha

I completely agree. I actually dont like the standards. i think they are unfair and almost prejudice. As for breeders, I know that not every AKC breeder is a good one. And some of the pups are probably not as healthy as they could or should be. but for me the AKC registration ruled out there being any weird problems from inbreeding.

AKC registration does not rule out there being any weird problems from inbreeding. A bit of information.....the best breeders in the country closely line breed. Out-crossing and breeding to this dog and that dog creates a multitude of problems The standard is there for purpose, to keep the breed true. As breeders we should be breeding with the standard in mind and to improve the breed. Putting 2 dogs together without that in mind...mmmmm well then that's why you see so many yorkies that don't look like yorkies.

If you didn't uphold the standard then you wouldn't have the yorkie as we know it today. I know I fell in love with the breed because I saw a beautiful representation of a yorkie and wanted one. It's just my opinion that there is way to much emphasis on weight on these threads.

[Mardelin]

By the way I do like the standard....that is what show dogs are judged by.

[Bradley Wieseha]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

By the way I do like the standard....that is what show dogs are judged by.

Please dont think I am trying to argue I just feel like you misunderstood what i ment.

I understand what you mean but I mean breeding father with daughter to get a smaller dog to make more money (like puppy mills). I know the standard is there for a reason and i love watching dog shows. If there wasn't a standard who knows my baby could have big bucked teeth and eyes the size of billiard balls. I just dont like it when people jump all over you because there is one thing wrong. Like a half a pound over weight, their bite isnt right or something. I just feel so bad when someone says "Well YOUR dog doesnt meet the standard".

I am glad there is a standard because there are wonderful breeders out there who uphold that standard with great honor and do an amazing job doing it.

Well Im sorry if what i say comes of wrong I am horrible at trying to say what i mean. and if i offended you in any way i am terribly sorry i honestly didnt mean to.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by Bradley Wieseha

Please dont think I am trying to argue I just feel like you misunderstood what i ment.

I understand what you mean but I mean breeding father with daughter to get a smaller dog to make more money (like puppy mills). I know the standard is there for a reason and i love watching dog shows. If there wasn't a standard who knows my baby could have big bucked teeth and eyes the size of billiard balls. I just dont like it when people jump all over you because there is one thing wrong. Like a half a pound over weight, their bite isnt right or something. I just feel so bad when someone says "Well YOUR dog doesnt meet the standard".

I am glad there is a standard because there are wonderful breeders out there who uphold that standard with great honor and do an amazing job doing it.

Well Im sorry if what i say comes of wrong I am horrible at trying to say what i mean. and if i offended you in any way i am terribly sorry i honestly didnt mean to.

I understand what you're saying.

Breeding father to daughter doesn't get smaller dogs....it can bring a whole lot of other problems when bred that close.

There is no perfect dog. Yes, I understand what you are saying about people telling you that your dog doesn't meet the standard. My 1st two are purely pets. First is black, soft coated, very cobby built, 10 pounds, but, oh so sweet and well behaved. My 2nd beautiful silk coat. Darling face....yeah doll faced and incorrect, big saucer eyes, very low tail set, very light in color and mean as the devil. I wouldn't trade either for anything. They were the reason and seeing that gorgeous yorkie I fell in love with the breed.

Bad bite, wrong coat, a bit over weight.....people want the standard show dog yorkie when purchasing a pet. But, don't understand pet breeders aren't breeding show dogs. And exhibitor/breeders are going to keep those for themselves or possibly sell them to another exhibitor for a show price and a very stringent contract.

[Bradley Wieseha]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

And exhibitor/breeders are going to keep those for themselves or possibly sell them to another exhibitor for a show price and a very stringent contract.

I definately understand that. and Thanks letting me explain what i ment.

[Tx2Stepn]

Originally Posted by Bradley Wieseha

I completely agree. I actually dont like the standards. i think they are unfair and almost prejudice. As for breeders, I know that not every AKC breeder is a good one. And some of the pups are probably not as healthy as they could or should be. but for me the AKC registration ruled out there being any weird problems from inbreeding.

The AKC registration does not prevent inbreedings. You can see by the pedigree of Ch. Jubilee Eagle (http://tx2stepnyorkies.com/photo_7.html) that his sire was a mother/son breeding. There are breeders that do this type of breeding all the time and they are registered with the AKC.

This is what the AKC states on their website under FAQ:

"Why do you allow inbreeding and line breeding?

The relationship between the Sire and Dam of the litter has no bearing on registration eligibility. Anyone who considers breeding their dog must consider temperament, health, and finding mates that complement each other. Breeding dogs that are closely related can fix certain characteristics, both desirable and undesirable. Therefore, we would expect that only very experienced breeders would consider inbreeding and line breeding. However, there is no rule that prohibits inbreeding and line breeding; this is left to the discretion of individual breeders.

Inbreeding - The mating of two closely related dogs of the same breed.

Line breeding - The practice of mating a dog to a member of an earlier generation of the dog's bloodline."

Just thought you should know.

[Bradley Wieseha]

Originally Posted by Tx2Stepn

The AKC registration does not prevent inbreedings. You can see by the pedigree of Ch. Jubilee Eagle (http://tx2stepnyorkies.com/photo_7.html) that his sire was a mother/son breeding. There are breeders that do this type of breeding all the time and they are registered with the AKC.

This is what the AKC states on their website under FAQ:

"Why do you allow inbreeding and line breeding?

The relationship between the Sire and Dam of the litter has no bearing on registration eligibility. Anyone who considers breeding their dog must consider temperament, health, and finding mates that complement each other. Breeding dogs that are closely related can fix certain characteristics, both desirable and undesirable. Therefore, we would expect that only very experienced breeders would consider inbreeding and line breeding. However, there is no rule that prohibits inbreeding and line breeding; this is left to the discretion of individual breeders.

Inbreeding - The mating of two closely related dogs of the same breed.

Line breeding - The practice of mating a dog to a member of an earlier generation of the dog's bloodline."

Just thought you should know.

Huh well now im confused because were going to be getting a english bulldog puppy and he said it cant be registered because of an accident. Father daughter.... ahhh now im so confused.