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Old 07-03-2007, 07:24 AM   #16
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this post was about a pup this person wanted and should not have gone in to the subject of "to mix or not to mix" and though i feel very stronly on that subject i wont continue, and disrupt the orginal subject. i think the sell andhigh demand of "designer pups" says enough

good luck with the chorkie hunt!!!
The sell and high demand of designer pups is only because people are misled aobut them. Many many of them end up in rescues, shelter and put down because of health problems, can't handle them problems, sold without any recourse problems, behaviour problems of the mix.
Did you know the current rage of puggles is aobut the worst mix for temperment you can get? Labradoodles and goldendoodles are not all hypoallergenic and will shed and need clipping all at the same time. Any mix has the potential of inheriting any of the health problems of any of the purebreds that make up that mix. Genes have no idea if they are in a purebred or a mixbreed. Sure there will be exceptions but don't get misled by claims.
As a groomer, and the other poster on this thread who is also a groomer can likely verify, grooming a mix is usually a nightmare. The mix of the coat types can be really hard to manage in the coated mixes. They can be hard to even cut/clip with having one heck of a hard time getting the clippers through a coat even one relatively often brought in for professional grooming.
Give me a good quality pet purebred to groom anytime.
Pay big bucks for mutt aka designer dog if you want to but at least be fully aware of what you are buying and getting into and don't fall for the lies many of the breeders of these dogs tell you.
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i dont like the puggle mix at all and think it bad because most have breathing issues, one i think they are an unattractive mix and i cant see wanting them, so i guess on a personal level i dont like them all. and yes SOME people do lie about that hypo Allegenic stuff, my opinion on that is, if your doc told you you are allergic to dogs, guess what? you are allergic to them. some dogs might not affect you like others would. dont play with the chance of getting what you dont know about dont get mixes that have thick shedding coats in it. do you research.

and i do believe that good breeders breed mixes just like they did 100 years ago to get our cute little yorkies. SO people do experient to get the best traits from 2 dogs or more, like in the yorkie to get that standard that might be recongnized by akc one day. there is a consistentcy to breeding mixes if you are going in the right direction and doing it to perfect a future breed. other then the amount of people doing the mixing wants different from 100 years ago of making the yorkie?

a lot of shelters do not adopt out to people with out fencing, with children, without stay at home parents, blah blah blah, so the shelters can sometimes shoot their selves in the foot by pushing a potentical adopter towards a breeder or pet shop. and i personaly would not place a dog in a shelter that i paid money for, if i needed to find a new home i would rehome it myself. i also like knowing where my dogs come from, seeing the parents and there temperments.so i perfer buying from a breeder wether it be mixed or purebred (ive done both) i worked with a particular shelter for 10 years now off and on and i have never seen a dog i would want to adopt they were always lab mixes, pit mixes, shep mixes i think we got a yorkiepoo but the volunteer that picekd it up decided to keep before it got the the shelter. now if you are into larger breed dogs a shelter is a great place to adopt, but if you are looking for a smaller dog and i look sometimes at petfinder, they are sick, unattractive, old, or way to hard to adopt or way to expensive to adopt. if a yorkie rescue gets a adorable cute yorkie they charge what a breeder would charge so why adopt from them who probably wont approve you when you can go to a breeder buy the puppy and have papers and see the parents and might even get a great generation history, and it might have champions in the back ground.

again i will say that this is not what the op was looking for and WE should stop and let her continue looking for the pup she wants, if this needs to be continued then there should be another thread started
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this post was about a pup this person wanted and should not have gone in to the subject of "to mix or not to mix" and though i feel very stronly on that subject i wont continue, and disrupt the orginal subject. i think the sell andhigh demand of "designer pups" says enough

good luck with the chorkie hunt!!!
I am sorry to offend you but a chorkie is a mixed breed dog, someone posted the pic and it baffled me howmany different looks they had.. OP said she saw one and fell in love with them however i would think form the examples of photos posted that it would be difficult to find one like the one OP fell in love with, I though my post was very valid... And I dont think its right for anyone to tell me what I can and cannot speak about when my post had to do with the content provided in this thread.. I am not upset by any means, I am just taking up for myself. Sometimes things dont follow a straight perfect line like we wish, and sometimes we need to go off the given path and explore other things as we walk along u know?

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i m not telling anyone that they cant say what they want too on the forum or thread at all. i was just commenting they we got off topic and need to try and get back to for the op.
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I believe that there are no reputable breeders of mixed breed dogs so your best bet is to rescue one.
Also, I don't believe most good breeders list in newspapers and similar places, so just because careful with whatever you decide.
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so if they advertise in the paper they are bad breeders??

thats insane!!
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Here is our "chorkie" that we adopted from the shelter. She had been there for over a week with no interest and was about to be killed. At the time I adopted her I was a college student that lived in an apt with no fence. All the shelter ask of me was my DL # and $60.
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so if they advertise in the paper they are bad breeders??

thats insane!!
Perhaps you should more carefully reread my post, as I said most not all.

Also, I was sharing what I believed with the original poster.
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well..again as someone else stated earlier in this thread, this is a forum where all are allowed to post their opinions on the post

if people didnt advertise in the paper then the public that want yorkies, malteses etc wouldnt be able to locate them. not all people all associated with breeders, and handlers of show dogs.

i started posting in the thread to help the OP, not to be rapped up in a banter of sorts
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i think we need to get back to the original topic

oh and my good friend has a puggle not only is she adorable No breathing problems but she is very well behaved !!
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Also, I don't believe most good breeders list in newspapers and similar places, so just because careful with whatever you decide.
I agree. I highly doubt you'll see many show breeders advertising in the classifieds...they usually have a waiting list for their puppies and have homes lined up before or soon after the puppies are born.

My though on breeding mixes vs. creating our current purebreds. The difference between the people that created our current purebreds and those breeding "designer dogs" is that those breeders that created our purebreds were breeding for a purpose. They had an ultimate goal in their breeding and knew what type of dog they wanted to create. They knew what qualities they wanted to take take from the breeds they used and which they wanted to eliminate. They selectively bred for certain traits to create our purebreds. However, people that breed these "designer mixes" aren't breeding for anything really other than cuteness as puppies so they'll sell well. They aren't trying to make a new breed that breeds true. These are just first generation crosses - and these people are not selectively breeding for certain traits. They HOPE they'll be hypoallergenic, HOPE they don't have health problems, HOPE they breathe well, HOPE they are cute as adults and not just as puppies. It takes years and years and several generations to create a new breed, as well as knowing a great deal about genetics. These people breeding mixes don't usually have a clue about how genetics works and certainly aren't trying to create something that will eventually breed true
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and i do believe that good breeders breed mixes just like they did 100 years ago to get our cute little yorkies. SO people do experient to get the best traits from 2 dogs or more, like in the yorkie to get that standard that might be recongnized by akc one day. there is a consistentcy to breeding mixes if you are going in the right direction and doing it to perfect a future breed. other then the amount of people doing the mixing wants different from 100 years ago of making the yorkie?
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I think it would be a good idea for you to do a little research to how the purebreds of today came about. There was a lot of thought work and dedication of true dog fanciers involved. You might want to find out exactly what it takes to get a new breed recognized by the AKC, what's happening in the designer breeding isn't it.
In my opinion, which I can express, the designer breeders of today are not looking for the best traits of anything, they are looking for pups to produce to sell sometimes at very inflated prices as 'rare' giving a cute desingner breed name which means nothing.
Which is up to them, I just don't like seeing buyers misled.
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I saw a Chorkie the other day and fell in love. Does any one out there know where I can find one to purchase or adopt. I would like a puppy or an adult dog no older than 3yrs old, male or female, altered or unaltered. Hope you can help.
I don't know where to find one but wanted to wish you luck in your search!!! Happy puppy finding
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Here is our "chorkie" that we adopted from the shelter. She had been there for over a week with no interest and was about to be killed. At the time I adopted her I was a college student that lived in an apt with no fence. All the shelter ask of me was my DL # and $60.
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I saw a Chorkie the other day and fell in love. Does any one out there know where I can find one to purchase or adopt. I would like a puppy or an adult dog no older than 3yrs old, male or female, altered or unaltered. Hope you can help.


i hope no one scared you away and good luck on your hunt sweetie!
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