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capt_noonie · 07-11-2011, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by gracielove

There seems to be some who are quite unkind about cross breeds. I hate to tell you but every purebred dog there is came from a cross breed of some sort.
I believe there are some on YT that own Morkies and Shorkies as well as other cross breeds. Not everyone can buy from a person who breeds show dogs. That does not exclude them from being good owners. It's unfortunate that those who don't accept that Morkies are quite popular can't just say nothing.

You're completely missing the point. Any breeder who would purposely breed mixed breed dogs are just doing it for the money. Many unscrupulous breeders charge much more than buying a dog from a reputable show breeder anyway, so that is not a valid arguement as to why mixed breed dogs are ok to purchase.

That being said, I never said I looked down upon or bashed anyone having a mixed breed dog, and notice I never called them mutts, as many other people do. If you want a morkie or any other mixed breed dog, adopt one, don't purchase one. Purchasing one from a breeder who breeds them, you are just supporting them exploiting their animals for money.

Rhetts_mama · 07-11-2011, 01:22 PM

The pure breeds of today came from careful cross breeding to encourage particular traits. The cross breeders of today are doing it to fulfill a pet market and cash in on the "designer pet" craze.

PS- I've got a mixed breed. Scarlett is Yorkie and something else (most likely Maltese). I love her to pieces, but I would have never given money to a backyard breeder for her.

Lindzorz · 07-11-2011, 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gracielove

There seems to be some who are quite unkind about cross breeds. I hate to tell you but every purebred dog there is came from a cross breed of some sort.
I believe there are some on YT that own Morkies and Shorkies as well as other cross breeds. Not everyone can buy from a person who breeds show dogs. That does not exclude them from being good owners. It's unfortunate that those who don't accept that Morkies are quite popular can't just say nothing.

I agree. I read they think Shih Tzus came from Lhasa Apsos crossed with ... maybe Japanese Chins? Either way, there are a lot of dogs that aren't purebred that are adorable and lovable. Pure bloodlines shouldn't be your only deciding factor. If you want a mutt, go for it! Mutts need homes too. If it turned out Nilla had some imperfection in her bloodlines, I wouldn't care because I love her just as she is!

DvlshAngel985 · 07-11-2011, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by capt_noonie

You're completely missing the point. Any breeder who would purposely breed mixed breed dogs are just doing it for the money. Many unscrupulous breeders charge much more than buying a dog from a reputable show breeder anyway, so that is not a valid arguement as to why mixed breed dogs are ok to purchase.

That being said, I never said I looked down upon or bashed anyone having a mixed breed dog, and notice I never called them mutts, as many other people do. If you want a morkie or any other mixed breed dog, adopt one, don't purchase one. Purchasing one from a breeder who breeds them, you are just supporting them exploiting their animals for money.

Lindzorz, read the above quote to get clarification.

To the above quoted posts, I want to add:
If nothing can be guaranteed when breeding two purebred dogs (no guarantees in size, color, etc. all is a guesstimate based on lots of research) what guarantee will you have when mixing two different breeds?

In other words, a person should be very leery when a breeder promises the sky, the moon and the stars.

gracielove · 07-11-2011, 04:12 PM

This woman asked an honest question and was given unkind and insincere answers. Give HER your speech on backyard breeders! Don't suggest an online breeder even in joking! That is just rude! Morkies are adorable and I can understand why she wants one. Maybe she doesn't know what you know about them. Don't make fun of her request! A kind and intelligent answer that includes the addresses of some rescue agencies might be more appropriate if that is what you believe! I have seen some rude behavior here but this is just going too far. Why would that person ever come back to find out anything from you?!

DvlshAngel985 · 07-11-2011, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by gracielove

This woman asked an honest question and was given unkind and insincere answers. Give HER your speech on backyard breeders! Don't suggest an online breeder even in joking! That is just rude! Morkies are adorable and I can understand why she wants one. Maybe she doesn't know what you know about them. Don't make fun of her request! A kind and intelligent answer that includes the addresses of some rescue agencies might be more appropriate if that is what you believe! I have seen some rude behavior here but this is just going too far. Why would that person ever come back to find out anything from you?!

Who are you directing your response to?

capt_noonie · 07-11-2011, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by gracielove

This woman asked an honest question and was given unkind and insincere answers. Give HER your speech on backyard breeders! Don't suggest an online breeder even in joking! That is just rude! Morkies are adorable and I can understand why she wants one. Maybe she doesn't know what you know about them. Don't make fun of her request! A kind and intelligent answer that includes the addresses of some rescue agencies might be more appropriate if that is what you believe! I have seen some rude behavior here but this is just going too far. Why would that person ever come back to find out anything from you?!

I am wondering, did you buy your morkie from a pet shop or a breeder? Or did you adopt him or her from a shelter or rescue? I don't think my answers were anywhere near unkind or insincere, and now you are the one yelling at us for stating the truth. The truth is, no reputable breeder will have offered what the OP wants, period:

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Originally Posted by mbroo1127

I live in the dfw, tx area and would like a morkie. The parents need to be all maltese or all yorkie. Both parents need to be perferably 4-6 pounds. I would like them to be registererd. The puppies need to be born and raised in the house with the family. my name is marlene brookman and i'm serious about my purchase. I will consider up to a 2hour radius of dallas, tx. my email is mbroo1127@aol.com. Thanks much!!!

A reputable breeder may have two different breeds, but will NEVER mix the two, not on purpose anyway. And again, if the OP wants specifics on the dog, the only way to guarantee she gets what she wants is to adopt an adult morkie.

I'm not arguing with you the fact that morkies are adorable, no one said that, and you imply some of us look down at them just bc they are mixed breed dogs. That is not the truth.

mbroo1127 · 07-12-2011, 05:04 PM

I appreciate everyone's response. The reasons for wanting maltese and yorkies, (pure bred) is because i want the best of the two. I understand that because the each puppy... dog has it's own personality of it's own, i want to make sure if they are maltese/yorkie, i'm getting a puppy with hypo allergenic hair, the size will be pretty much small, family raised-not just a puppy stuck in a cage. Yes I have high expectations, and if I was getting a "pure bred" I would have just as high expectations too. As far as paying for a "morkie" I don't have a problem, granted it's not a pure bred, but I would pay for a pure bred too, as I did when I owned a maltese. I did find a morkie from a breeder who takes care of her puppies.. dogs as if they were her children, they have had their shots, has been so gracious in talking to me, reassuring me as if she was my best friend. Those are the people I want to get my puppy from. Thanks again for all your input.

capt_noonie · 07-12-2011, 10:30 PM

How will she treat you after she gets your money? All greeders are your best friend until before you pay them. Seriously, you need to understand, ANY breeder who PURPOSELY breeds cross breeds, mixed breeds, mutts, whatever you call them are just doing it for the money. PERIOD

Many times when you cross two breeds you get the worst of both, not the best. The only way you will know you are getting what you want is to adopt an adult.

Seriously, I"m not trying to be a jerk, I'm trying to save you from heartache.

McheleM · 07-12-2011, 11:11 PM

I apologize for suggesting the website to the OP. It was done in poor taste and should not have been suggested. It was merely done to show that people will say and do anything to make money- including advertise registered cross breeds, teacups, and anything else the public wants to hear. I figured the 17,000 price tag on a few of their "designer pups" would scare most people away anyway.

morkiecalvin · 07-13-2011, 08:12 AM

I got Calvin and Bella from the same breeder. Yes they are morkies. Yes they are adorable. Yes we did have an issue with Calvin having a liver shunt but that can be in either of the full breeds. My breeder did the right thing and paid for half of his surgery. I have also found out that she doesnt breed morkies anymore. I wanted a mixed breed and that is why I went with the morkie. Its true that with mixed breeds their look cannot be guaranteed. We just happened to luck out in that department.

spr377 · 07-13-2011, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gracielove

There seems to be some who are quite unkind about cross breeds. I hate to tell you but every purebred dog there is came from a cross breed of some sort.
I believe there are some on YT that own Morkies and Shorkies as well as other cross breeds. Not everyone can buy from a person who breeds show dogs. That does not exclude them from being good owners. It's unfortunate that those who don't accept that Morkies are quite popular can't just say nothing.

very well said

Rhetts_mama · 07-13-2011, 04:50 PM

I'm failing to see where anyone suggested she wouldn't be a good owner. But I fully stand behind the statements that anyone who purposely cross breeds is NOT a good breeder.

Ringo1 · 07-16-2011, 08:07 AM

I've seen some adorable Morkies! So cute and sweet. But I've also seen some that must not have 'mixed' so well. One was the size of a maltese, with the long hair, but purely orange in color.

So I think the suggestion to look at adopting an adult is a good one ~ you would know exactly what you are getting - no surprises in terms of appearance.

I've only seen one shorkie - my girlfriend had one - he wasn't very cute. No offense to anyone! He just wasn't. But he was an 'oopsie' breeding - no planning there.

Good luck in your search.

No one here is a Morkie or Shorkie hater. There are lots of Morkie owners on the board.

But it will be hard to find someone to recommend a breeder that is mixing the breeds; as most reputable breeders will not.

This is Yorkietalk; the good breeders are passionate about their yorkies. It's like going to the Toyota plant and trying to find a Ford. Can be hard to do. (And I'm a Ford person myself)

mbroo1127 · 07-17-2011, 04:23 AM

Hello everyone! While I read all of your posts, some interesting, some informative, I'm happy to say I found my morkie. Yes, he's not a pure breed, and yes he can't participate in shows, or be bred, but he's my puppy and I'm happy. I didn't want an adult, I want to raise my puppy in my environment to make sure I know who he really is and who he can become. His looks are like a yorkie, with a maltese shape face and fur. Yes he will change, we as children grow up to be adults change also. We have blonde hair at birth, but it might turn to brown and then grey. And yes, our personalities change also. I wouldn't expect anything less in my puppy. Everyone has their own feelings on every subject, and I can respect that, all I ask is to respect my feelings on what I want to own and have. I hope everyone the best. I will be a good mom to my morkie ..."Cowboy Trouble." He will be raised in a loving and family environment, and that's all I've wanted. Good luck to everyone and thanks again. Marlene

07-11-2011, 01:22 PM	#17
Rhetts_mama Donating YT 4000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Georgia Posts: 5,959 Blog Entries: 1	The pure breeds of today came from careful cross breeding to encourage particular traits. The cross breeders of today are doing it to fulfill a pet market and cash in on the "designer pet" craze. PS- I've got a mixed breed. Scarlett is Yorkie and something else (most likely Maltese). I love her to pieces, but I would have never given money to a backyard breeder for her. __________________ Don't get your knickers in a knot. Nothing is solved and it just makes you walk funny.

07-12-2011, 10:30 PM	#24
capt_noonie www.yorkierescue.com Donating Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Las Vegas & Orange County Posts: 17,408	How will she treat you after she gets your money? All greeders are your best friend until before you pay them. Seriously, you need to understand, ANY breeder who PURPOSELY breeds cross breeds, mixed breeds, mutts, whatever you call them are just doing it for the money. PERIOD Many times when you cross two breeds you get the worst of both, not the best. The only way you will know you are getting what you want is to adopt an adult. Seriously, I"m not trying to be a jerk, I'm trying to save you from heartache. __________________ The T.U.B. Pack! Toto, Uni, & Bindi RIP Lord Scrappington Montgomery McLimpybottom aka El Lenguo the Handicapped Ninja 10-12-12

07-12-2011, 11:11 PM	#25
McheleM Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Mesquite, TX Posts: 2,659	I apologize for suggesting the website to the OP. It was done in poor taste and should not have been suggested. It was merely done to show that people will say and do anything to make money- including advertise registered cross breeds, teacups, and anything else the public wants to hear. I figured the 17,000 price tag on a few of their "designer pups" would scare most people away anyway. __________________ "You've never learned to live until you've done something for someone for which they can never repay you."~Ralph Hall.

07-13-2011, 04:50 PM	#28
Rhetts_mama Donating YT 4000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Georgia Posts: 5,959 Blog Entries: 1	I'm failing to see where anyone suggested she wouldn't be a good owner. But I fully stand behind the statements that anyone who purposely cross breeds is NOT a good breeder. __________________ Don't get your knickers in a knot. Nothing is solved and it just makes you walk funny.

07-16-2011, 08:07 AM	#29
Ringo1 Ringo (1) and Lucy too! Donating Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: On the Edge of Glory Posts: 3,447	I've seen some adorable Morkies! So cute and sweet. But I've also seen some that must not have 'mixed' so well. One was the size of a maltese, with the long hair, but purely orange in color. So I think the suggestion to look at adopting an adult is a good one ~ you would know exactly what you are getting - no surprises in terms of appearance. I've only seen one shorkie - my girlfriend had one - he wasn't very cute. No offense to anyone! He just wasn't. But he was an 'oopsie' breeding - no planning there. Good luck in your search. No one here is a Morkie or Shorkie hater. There are lots of Morkie owners on the board. But it will be hard to find someone to recommend a breeder that is mixing the breeds; as most reputable breeders will not. This is Yorkietalk; the good breeders are passionate about their yorkies. It's like going to the Toyota plant and trying to find a Ford. Can be hard to do. (And I'm a Ford person myself) __________________ Mommy to Lucy, Ringo, and Matthew Last edited by Ringo1; 07-16-2011 at 08:08 AM.

07-11-2011, 04:12 PM	#20
gracielove YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: NY Posts: 6,582	This woman asked an honest question and was given unkind and insincere answers. Give HER your speech on backyard breeders! Don't suggest an online breeder even in joking! That is just rude! Morkies are adorable and I can understand why she wants one. Maybe she doesn't know what you know about them. Don't make fun of her request! A kind and intelligent answer that includes the addresses of some rescue agencies might be more appropriate if that is what you believe! I have seen some rude behavior here but this is just going too far. Why would that person ever come back to find out anything from you?!

07-12-2011, 05:04 PM	#23
mbroo1127 YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: wylie, tx usa Posts: 4	I appreciate everyone's response. The reasons for wanting maltese and yorkies, (pure bred) is because i want the best of the two. I understand that because the each puppy... dog has it's own personality of it's own, i want to make sure if they are maltese/yorkie, i'm getting a puppy with hypo allergenic hair, the size will be pretty much small, family raised-not just a puppy stuck in a cage. Yes I have high expectations, and if I was getting a "pure bred" I would have just as high expectations too. As far as paying for a "morkie" I don't have a problem, granted it's not a pure bred, but I would pay for a pure bred too, as I did when I owned a maltese. I did find a morkie from a breeder who takes care of her puppies.. dogs as if they were her children, they have had their shots, has been so gracious in talking to me, reassuring me as if she was my best friend. Those are the people I want to get my puppy from. Thanks again for all your input.

07-13-2011, 08:12 AM	#26
morkiecalvin Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Roseland, NJ Posts: 104	I got Calvin and Bella from the same breeder. Yes they are morkies. Yes they are adorable. Yes we did have an issue with Calvin having a liver shunt but that can be in either of the full breeds. My breeder did the right thing and paid for half of his surgery. I have also found out that she doesnt breed morkies anymore. I wanted a mixed breed and that is why I went with the morkie. Its true that with mixed breeds their look cannot be guaranteed. We just happened to luck out in that department.

07-17-2011, 04:23 AM	#30
mbroo1127 YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: wylie, tx usa Posts: 4	my morkie Hello everyone! While I read all of your posts, some interesting, some informative, I'm happy to say I found my morkie. Yes, he's not a pure breed, and yes he can't participate in shows, or be bred, but he's my puppy and I'm happy. I didn't want an adult, I want to raise my puppy in my environment to make sure I know who he really is and who he can become. His looks are like a yorkie, with a maltese shape face and fur. Yes he will change, we as children grow up to be adults change also. We have blonde hair at birth, but it might turn to brown and then grey. And yes, our personalities change also. I wouldn't expect anything less in my puppy. Everyone has their own feelings on every subject, and I can respect that, all I ask is to respect my feelings on what I want to own and have. I hope everyone the best. I will be a good mom to my morkie ..."Cowboy Trouble." He will be raised in a loving and family environment, and that's all I've wanted. Good luck to everyone and thanks again. Marlene