Originally Posted by Breezeaway (Post 3268792)

Some of you might like to watch PBS on dogs.
Heres an excerpt from what happened to foxes after taming.
Very interesting.
YouTube - Russian "Tame Foxes"

Originally Posted by kpstoybox (Post 3268962)

Very interesting indeed. Color variations can actually be a "side effect"...for lack of a better term...when something is inbred for another trait. Could that be why the parti seems to show up more in "show" lines? Things that make you go hmmm........

Originally Posted by Woogie Man (Post 3269038)

The fox video was interesting. I'm not sure what to infer from it in regards to this discussion, but interesting anyway. Hormones are fascinating little chemicals that do affect a body in many ways. We do know that the extreme piebald effect is associated with deafness. Also there is some linkage between sex hormones and growth rates, which is why I'm against very early spay and neuter. And then you have certain cancers that are considered hormone driven. It's all very interesting, and not just for dogs.

I don't think you can lay this at the feet of the YTCA. Research in this area should be done (and I hope that it is), but is much too big a project for a breed club,registry, etc. to sponsor. It really goes beyond just canines.

Originally Posted by Breezeaway (Post 3269047)

I have no intention of sending it to YTCA, I just thought it was interesting how they started coming out spotted.

Originally Posted by yorkielady06 (Post 3268902)

Originally Posted by yorkielady06
Oh come on. Just because you groomed a few cockers who did this you cannot make this a genetic thing. This is crazy. I showed/raised Cockers almost 20 years ago and never had those issues. Mine were all house trained and never had accidents on their hours sitting on a grooming table. Maybe the dogs sensed your hostility or dislike of them...
My last cocker went over the rainbow bridge 2 years ago and she was champion titled and lived to be 15 years old and never once pottyed in the house after the age of 12 weeks! How many yorkie owners can say that? How many exhibitors of yorkies can say that?
To make statements about a breed like that shows me quite a bit about you and to generalize it even more about the parti color of that breed and the health issues that the cocker is experiencing now is not factual information. Then to even try to link that to the parti colored yorkie talk about far fetched
“It was a joke, ok? I guess you missed it. But is was an annoying trait that these 30+ dogs had. I am not kidding, every one of them crapped on the table after the bath.
I dont have any hostility or dislike of them. I cant believe you actually said that. The other 2 groomers had the same problem, it wasnt just me. Did you even read my post? You know nothing about me and never will. And just where did I link it to the parti color???? Didnt you see the laught smilie at the end of the post? YOu really take the cake.”
Yorkist: I apologize to you. The stretch from parti cocker to parti yorkie was not you. However up to that point I leave as my statement. Just because you groomed cocker and "all" of them relieved themselves on YOUR table means nothing about the breed in general.

Also do you show yorkies? Skyes? Labs?

Originally Posted by darbygale (Post 3269152)

I have no intentions of getting into an argument about the partis vs regular colored yorkies, but..........Does it not seem strange that Nikko did not have one parti colored yorkie until she got Ashley and either one or two bitches back from a BYB/Miller in OK that also bred Maltese. And are you aware that doing DNA on a dog only proves that the sire and dam are the parents of the get that is dna'd? It does not prove the dog is not of mixed breeding. The tests that they have out now like MARS,Wisdom Panel, are not 100% proof of anything. They even state they are not for proving a dog is a purebred. There was a report several months ago that the same dogs were tested by different companies touting the recognition of what breed a dog was and they came up with different results. I certainly would not be hanging my hat on these DNA tests. They can prove if a particular dog or bitch are the parents of a particular puppy and that is all.

Originally Posted by yorkiekist (Post 3269173)

i guess the Cockers in AZ had that trait!LOL I kid you not, they all did it. It wasnt just one grooming shop either. I groomed my neighbors cockers at my house and they did the same thing. And it want just MY table either.

I am currently starting out a Skye puppy. I have no Yorkies to show at this time. I havent shown a lab in years.

Originally Posted by kpstoybox (Post 3268962)

Very interesting indeed. Color variations can actually be a "side effect"...for lack of a better term...when something is inbred for another trait. Could that be why the parti seems to show up more in "show" lines? Things that make you go hmmm........

Originally Posted by yorkielady06 (Post 3269182)

Well good luck with the Skye..I have not seen one in years.
I have never had a cocker do that. However, had 3 bichons that did.

Originally Posted by yorkiekist (Post 3269187)

And what "show" lines are producing partis except the coveted Nikko line?