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Cares4Dogs 09-12-2010 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Elle (Post 3268557)
Aside from the AKC allowing liter registrations for money? Nope. They didn't exist until recently. They're a new trend. This is why the oldtimers won't have anything to do with them. All of the liters they've had, never seeing or hearing of them. Some people that had maltese also had yorkies. They resemble the Tzu, fox terrier, some other breeds as well.
I dont think I buy that explaination that AKC is allowing registration of partis just for money. If you truly believe that, then why do you show your dogs with AKC??? Why is it that YTCA says AKC is the best registry, but then turn around and make a comment that they're only registering partis for the cash.....? If they were really that dollar-thirsty then why register your dogs through them and participate in their shows???

Parti yorkies are not a new trend. I think YTCA doesnt want the friendly competition. I see their point....they want to protect and maintain the value of their breeding stock and are worried of the parti stealing the show.

Breezeaway 09-12-2010 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Raymond's Mom (Post 3268598)
Actually the show breeders haven't seen parti color puppies pop up in litters. And that is one reason most are sure that they're not the result of recessive genes but a cross breeding. The sad thing is that because parti color carriers look normal we will have them start to pop up. Because a few breeders were not ethical enough to sell the first parti color pups as pets and spay and neuter the dogs who produced them we now have a terrible situation in this breed.
Sorry, you are wrong, With Joan Gordon/ Janet Bennett having one born from there champion yorkies in 1976 proves it happens. They most certainly did not MIX their dogs.

yorkiekist 09-12-2010 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by elle (Post 3268357)
weeeeeeelllll? Maybe they were just really smart? :eek:

Lmbo. That's about the only thing these little ones never do. Yep, cockers definitely have that i i pee on you syndrome too. I'm sure you miss grooming them. That's why they brought them to you. Lmbo
lol!!!:d

yorkiegirl2 09-12-2010 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Breezeaway (Post 3268605)
Sorry, you are wrong, With Joan Gordon/ Janet Bennett having one born from there champion yorkies in 1976 proves it happens. They most certainly did not MIX their dogs.
You also have Nikko and most recent Hylan.

kpstoybox 09-12-2010 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Raymond's Mom (Post 3268598)
Actually the show breeders haven't seen parti color puppies pop up in litters. And that is one reason most are sure that they're not the result of recessive genes but a cross breeding. The sad thing is that because parti color carriers look normal we will have them start to pop up. Because a few breeders were not ethical enough to sell the first parti color pups as pets and spay and neuter the dogs who produced them we now have a terrible situation in this breed.
Do you have blinders on? Have you even read this thread and the proof that was posted? Did you totally skip the post(s) that shows that a certain show breeder's Ch male has thrown parti pups? And as Breezeway has found out...another well known show breeder in the breed has admitted to having at least one parti as well.

My gosh...pull your heads out of the sand people!!!

yorkiekist 09-12-2010 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by yorkielady06 (Post 3268479)
Oh come on. Just because you groomed a few cockers who did this you cannot make this a genetic thing. This is crazy. I showed/raised Cockers almost 20 years ago and never had those issues. Mine were all house trained and never had accidents on their hours sitting on a grooming table. Maybe the dogs sensed your hostility or dislike of them...:rolleyes:
My last cocker went over the rainbow bridge 2 years ago and she was champion titled and lived to be 15 years old and never once pottyed in the house after the age of 12 weeks! How many yorkie owners can say that? How many exhibitors of yorkies can say that?
To make statements about a breed like that shows me quite a bit about you:rolleyes: and to generalize it even more about the parti color of that breed and the health issues that the cocker is experiencing now is not factual information. Then to even try to link that to the parti colored yorkie talk about far fetched
It was a joke, ok? I guess you missed it. But is was an annoying trait that these 30+ dogs had. I am not kidding, every one of them crapped on the table after the bath.

yorkiekist 09-12-2010 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by yorkielady06 (Post 3268479)
Oh come on. Just because you groomed a few cockers who did this you cannot make this a genetic thing. This is crazy. I showed/raised Cockers almost 20 years ago and never had those issues. Mine were all house trained and never had accidents on their hours sitting on a grooming table. Maybe the dogs sensed your hostility or dislike of them...:rolleyes:
My last cocker went over the rainbow bridge 2 years ago and she was champion titled and lived to be 15 years old and never once pottyed in the house after the age of 12 weeks! How many yorkie owners can say that? How many exhibitors of yorkies can say that?
To make statements about a breed like that shows me quite a bit about you:rolleyes: and to generalize it even more about the parti color of that breed and the health issues that the cocker is experiencing now is not factual information. Then to even try to link that to the parti colored yorkie talk about far fetched
I dont have any hostility or dislike of them. I cant believe you actually said that. The other 2 groomers had the same problem, it wasnt just me. Did you even read my post? You know nothing about me and never will. And just where did I link it to the parti color???? Didnt you see the laught smilie at the end of the post? YOu really take the cake.

yorkiekist 09-12-2010 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Cares4Dogs (Post 3268483)
Bravo....thank you
YOumust have not read the post either.:thumbdown

Brooklynn 09-12-2010 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Cares4Dogs (Post 3268603)
I dont think I buy that explaination that AKC is allowing registration of partis just for money. If you truly believe that, then why do you show your dogs with AKC??? Why is it that YTCA says AKC is the best registry, but then turn around and make a comment that they're only registering partis for the cash.....? If they were really that dollar-thirsty then why register your dogs through them and participate in their shows???

Parti yorkies are not a new trend. I think YTCA doesnt want the friendly competition. I see their point....they want to protect and maintain the value of their breeding stock and are worried of the parti stealing the show.
I'm a YTCA member and Im not afraid of the Parti's stealing the show. If I wanted to show a dog like a Parti I would be in that breed. I like the standard yorkie color and prefer it plain and simple :)
AKC is a registry that wants to make money and registering dogs of color does generate money and as we've stated before there is good and bad in every organization. If I had it my way I would like AKC not to be able to register the Parti as a yorkie but I have no control over what AKC does...I don't like everything they do but I do love showing and AKC is the biggest venue for that avenue. Do I agree with every member of either organization no but I still stand behind the breed standard.
And to the other person that asked how I know the Parti won't be accepted by the YTCA anytime soon is because the DQ is gonna get sticter and then it can't be changed again for another 5 years and so on...so I do know for the next 10 years the YTCA will not allow the Parti's in the ring.

And I still haven't bashed anyone :) I'm staying on topic in a friendly manner :)

Raymond's Mom 09-12-2010 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Cares4Dogs (Post 3268603)
I dont think I buy that explaination that AKC is allowing registration of partis just for money. If you truly believe that, then why do you show your dogs with AKC??? Why is it that YTCA says AKC is the best registry, but then turn around and make a comment that they're only registering partis for the cash.....? If they were really that dollar-thirsty then why register your dogs through them and participate in their shows???

Parti yorkies are not a new trend. I think YTCA doesnt want the friendly competition. I see their point....they want to protect and maintain the value of their breeding stock and are worried of the parti stealing the show.
Can you name another registry that offers shows of the same caliber and frequency as the AKC offers?

yorkiegirl2 09-12-2010 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Brooklynn (Post 3268637)
I'm a YTCA member and Im not afraid of the Parti's stealing the show. If I wanted to show a dog like a Parti I would be in that breed. I like the standard yorkie color and prefer it plain and simple :)
AKC is a registry that wants to make money and registering dogs of color does generate money and as we've stated before there is good and bad in every organization. If I had it my way I would like AKC not to be able to register the Parti as a yorkie but I have no control over what AKC does...I don't like everything they do but I do love showing and AKC is the biggest venue for that avenue. Do I agree with every member of either organization no but I still stand behind the breed standard.
And to the other person that asked how I know the Parti won't be accepted by the YTCA anytime soon is because the DQ is gonna get sticter and then it can't be changed again for another 5 years and so on...so I do know for the next 10 years the YTCA will not allow the Parti's in the ring.

And I still haven't bashed anyone :) I'm staying on topic in a friendly manner :)
Does the YTCA get any of the money collected by the AKC from registrations that goes toward research, etc??
If so what is the percentage ??

Brooklynn 09-12-2010 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by yorkiegirl2 (Post 3268646)
Does the YTCA get any of the money collected by the AKC from registrations that goes toward research, etc??
If so what is the percentage ??
it's to my understanding the YTCA receives no money for registrations from AKC but someone correct me if I'm wrong

Cares4Dogs 09-12-2010 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Raymond's Mom (Post 3268638)
Can you name another registry that offers shows of the same caliber and frequency as the AKC offers?
What is your point? We're not talking about other registries here.

Raymond's Mom 09-12-2010 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Cares4Dogs (Post 3268655)
What is your point? We're not talking about other registries here.
Let me rephrase my question. Who else puts on as many shows as AKC? Not UKC.

Raymond's Mom 09-12-2010 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by yorkiegirl2 (Post 3268646)
Does the YTCA get any of the money collected by the AKC from registrations that goes toward research, etc??
If so what is the percentage ??
No.....AKC does not part with one cent of what they collect from registering yorkies. Nice thought but not happening.


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