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Old 08-01-2010, 10:58 AM   #16
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As said by others..it sure depends on where your backyard is...I have friends who their finish their Yorkies and traveled very little...but they are in areas with a lot of Yorkie people...some states have so few breeders, people have to travel all over to finish a dog.
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Points aren't the whole story. You can get 10 points just for finishing your class but you must obtain 3 wins with competition to obtain your championship. In the end the difficulty depends on the quality and quantity of the competition. One of the top dobies in the country competes in UKC and Westminster. Sharon Griffin is not only the president of an AKC yorkie club but also has the top UKC yorkie in the country. UKC is just an other arena to get your breeding stock evaluated.
I know who Sharon is......and thumbs up because she does compete in both venues. UKC, is not one that I've desired to compete in, but I do understand that it is a bit more relaxed and wonderful training ground for some. AKC may not be for everyone, it is a more competitive, and as you once said still the more coveted title.
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I know who Sharon is......and thumbs up because she does compete in both venues. UKC, is not one that I've desired to compete in, but I do understand that it is a bit more relaxed and wonderful training ground for some. AKC may not be for everyone, it is a more competitive, and as you once said still the more coveted title.
I enjoyed competing in both venues. Now that I'm in nursing school I only have time and money for one venue. Luckily a lot of the friends that I made while competing in UKC are competing in AKC as well.
We have some of the top breeders in the country here on the east coast and often work together to build majors. There are times when you still have to travel quite a bit to finish a dog.
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I enjoyed competing in both venues. Now that I'm in nursing school I only have time and money for one venue. Luckily a lot of the friends that I made while competing in UKC are competing in AKC as well.
We have some of the top breeders in the country here on the east coast and often work together to build majors. There are times when you still have to travel quite a bit to finish a dog.
Texas does not have the ability to show UKC.....no shows. So, the venue of choice is AKC....plenty of breeder/exhibitors in that area and they too work together to build majors......wonderful place to show.

My understanding that is that handlers aren't allowed in the UKC venues. Pros and cons on how I feel about that. Great because of their expertise, and it makes it a bit easier for the novice. However, I look it another way. Being in the ring against handlers has allowed me to watch them up close and personal in the ring....you pick up skills that way. They are always willing to help you with your dog.
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I've learned some skills and tricks along the way. I'm hoping to never have to employ them though. My goal is to put dogs into the ring that can pretty much show themselves. Lisa calls them wash and wear; I call them more fun.
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Well it is not so great if you want to show your dog and have an infirmity .. I was told you could have a friend show for you.

I would love that the show ring accomadates those with infirmities, wheelchair etc. How-ever I did read somewhere that a blind man was allowed to have an "assistant" run with his dog, and he took over the stacking/examination part. Now I can't remember what club that was in.

In obedience I compete at venues that have at least one woman in a wheelchair competing with her papillon.
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What I do like about UKC at some shows you can do a lot of different things with your dog apart from conformation. They had weight pull in Kalamzoo, and regular obedience and rally. Also that was were we did our first dock diving .. although it was not put on by UKC but another entity. How-ever it was a blast.

My blackie friends couldn't believe I came there just to dock dive. lol
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I've learned some skills and tricks along the way. I'm hoping to never have to employ them though. My goal is to put dogs into the ring that can pretty much show themselves. Lisa calls them wash and wear; I call them more fun.
I know what you mean and I totally agree.
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Well it is not so great if you want to show your dog and have an infirmity .. I was told you could have a friend show for you.

I would love that the show ring accomadates those with infirmities, wheelchair etc. How-ever I did read somewhere that a blind man was allowed to have an "assistant" run with his dog, and he took over the stacking/examination part. Now I can't remember what club that was in.

In obedience I compete at venues that have at least one woman in a wheelchair competing with her papillon.
We have a lady in my area that shows Parsons with a walker at AKC shows. It seems to me that I saw a wheelchair in the ring at the Hampton show but I don't remember who it was. I know a lady that shows Tibbies that gets ringside in a scooter and than hobbles around the ring. The dogs are trained perfectly so that it makes it easier on her and she wins quite often. I love to see people overcome the odds to enjoy their hobby.
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There's a professional handler that shows in a motorized wheel chair. Another that has one arm and shows her dogs.
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There's a professional handler that shows in a motorized wheel chair. Another that has one arm and shows her dogs.
That is good to know. Maybe I should look at a motorized wheel chair to show my blackies. I've never seen it here in Canada, but I don't show a lot myself in the states.

Question: for the toy breeds do they lower the table for the examination?
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Funny thing about UKC is a few AKC people get rattled when the judge reminds them there is no baiting and ring grooming is not encouraged...I had to leave my brush on the table..old habits are hard to break. LOL
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I love UKC for the practice and AKC for the experience.
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Funny thing about UKC is a few AKC people get rattled when the judge reminds them there is no baiting and ring grooming is not encouraged...I had to leave my brush on the table..old habits are hard to break. LOL
There are several judges that judge AKC that say NO NO to bait and brushes LOL...there is one judge Jane Kay do NOT brush your dog on the table or she'll slap your hand LOL...she's a funny older woman judge! It was funny when she slapped this handler's hand when he and I had our specials on the table side by side LOL...she cracked me up!

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There are several judges that judge AKC that say NO NO to bait and brushes LOL...there is one judge Jane Kay do NOT brush your dog on the table or she'll slap your hand LOL...she's a funny older woman judge! It was funny when she slapped this handler's hand when he and I had our specials on the table side by side LOL...she cracked me up!

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You know I was taught my very old timer. That was one of the first things she taught me, I can still hear her loud and clear: "DON'T BRUSH YOUR DOG ON THE TABLE". Some of the other things she drummed into me, still stick with me.
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